Historical Facts On Record Concerning Popes.

[creationist]

Historical Facts On Record Concerning Popes.

AD 296-304, Bishop Marcellinus was discover sacrificing to heathen gods, then deposed by a synod of bishops, he was replaced by Marcellus I.
AD 731, Gregory II secretly issued a prohibition, not to pay to the Emperor Leo his customary and due tax.
AD 898-900, John IX. Because of the glory, pomp and wealth associated with being pope the risk of treachery was equally as great. The power struggle to remain alive in this much coveted position brought about corruption, simony and murder.
The king of France complained of the excess tax levied by the papacy upon his nation, some twenty-eight tones of gold annually, this was confirmed in part at the death of John XII May 964, it was discovered and made public the pope had $7,000,000 in his private treasury.
AD 931-35, Pope John XI, Count of Tusculum was the son of pope Sergius III by the prostitute Marozia.
AD 974, Boniface VII, under covetous enemy pressure fraudulently left Rome for Constantinople, with the gold, the precious jewels and the treasures of the Vatican.
AD 1044, Pope Benedict IX, stricken with fear, sold the papal chair to Gregory VI in AD 1046, for fifteen hundred pounds of silver.
AD 1191, Clement VIII, and several other popes are guilty of the same type of offenses.
AD 1241, Gregory IX, sold his absolution to the emperor for a hundred thousand ounces of gold, then caused the emperors envoys to be strangled contrary to all justice when he was informed, that Jerusalem was retaken.
AD 1261, Alexander VI, bought his election to the papacy.
AD 1268, Clement IV, openly beheaded Conrad, the son of the king of Sicily, without valid reasons, or legal proceedings.
AD 1362, Innocent IV, through a priest, administered poison to the emperor in a communion host, this was done to remove him from power.
AD 1513, Julius II, had more than two hundred thousand Christians put to death, within the space of seven years.
AD 1549, Pope Paul III, poisoned his mother and niece, so he could inherit the Farnesi wealth.

Judgment And Accidents That Overtook Popes

AD 769, Constantine II, having led a licentious life, was deprived of both his eyes, of his papal power, and then put in a convent by a council.
AD 928, John X AD, was smother to death with a cloth by his rival for the papacy.
AD 931-35, John XI AD, chased and apprehended by the soldiers of Guido, was smothered by holding a pillow over his mouth. He was the first pope to be appointed by a woman (Theodora) and also destroyed by a woman (Marozia her daughter)
AD -795, Benedict VI, was shut up in the Castle Angelo, by a Roman citizen named Cynthius, and strangled there for his adultery.
AD 963-984, John XIV, was poisoned in the Castel Sant Angelo, then was skinned by ruffians then dragged through the streets of Rome to appease to citizen of this man's treachery.
AD 984-985, Boniface VII, died a mysterious sudden death, was dragged through the streets with a rope tied to his feel for his adulteries, then buried in a common grave.
AD -1045, Benedict IX, was killed by a poisoned fig, this was done by an abbess, a devout spiritual daughter that could no longer endure his wicked life, he had gained access to the papal chair by simony.
AD 1045-1046, Gregory VI, bought the papal chair, was later deposed by the council of Sutri AD 1046 then put to death.
AD 1169, Adrian IV, was choked to death by a fly, which flew into his mouth, while he was in the process of drinking.
AD 1144-1145, Lucius II stormed the city with his army was met with a hail of stones from the enemy and died of the wounds.
AD 1243-1254, Innocent IV, died a mysterious death.
AD 1277-1280, Nicholas III, died of Apoplexy, called the stroke of God.
AD 1295-1303, Boniface VIII, the last of the emperor popes had been put in the papal prison at Agnani by one of King Philip's army generals and after three days was release upon his confession to obedience to Philip, but he died a month later a dejected man.
AD 1464-1471, Paul II, after a wild drinking party, died suddenly, a stroke.
AD -1334, John XXII, was crushed by the falling in of the vault of a pavilion.
AD 1513-1521, Leo X AD, after one of his many banquets of wine and wild women, he died with the golden cup in his hands.
AD 1524-1534, Clement VIII, after having conspired with Francis, the king of France, against Emperor Charles the V, he was later apprehended by the captain of the Emperor's army, and admonished of his treachery, as he did not repent, he was later put to death by suffocation.

[JudgeNot]

Hmmm.  And your points are?  We need a little lead in/lead out on the post.  

And – to be “fair and balanced”, perhaps we should have a comparison?  Maybe a similar “historical listing” of protestant leaders’ faults, misdeeds and “accidents”?  Maybe beginning with Jim and Tammy Bakker and going back?

I am not of the Catholic faith, but you list 30 facts.  Are there not thousands (or millions?) of things these and other Popes have done which could be considered blessings?

Hey – didn’t you used to be a reporter for the New York Times?  

[Tibby]

Yeah, what ws the point of posting uncited factoids?

[The Crusader]

Good Post, thanks for posting it.

I really liked this one: AD 1549, Pope Paul III, poisoned his mother and niece, so he could inherit the Farnesi wealth.


The Crusader

[michael_legna]

Historical Facts On Record Concerning Popes.

You have to remember that there is no way to verify statements as facts in history.  There are only one historians version of what happened verses another historians version of what happened.  So these so called facts of yours need to be supported by, at the very least sources, so we can tell if they are at all trustworthy or merely the rantings of some biased antiCatholic who cares little for the truth.

If they are not from an independent secular historian I would suggest you abandon them.  Rather than rely on them just to spread hate.

[Tibby]

To bad they guys like creationist and The Crusader down seem to care for truth, uh? Never contributing probuctively to the baord, just trolling away.

[Ambassador4Christ]

To bad they guys like creationist and The Crusader down seem to care for truth, uh? Never contributing probuctively to the baord, just trolling away.

Not nice Tibby.

Bible Quote For Today:

No rest for the wicked.  

[nChrist]

Hmmm.  And your points are?  We need a little lead in/lead out on the post.  

And – to be “fair and balanced”, perhaps we should have a comparison?  Maybe a similar “historical listing” of protestant leaders’ faults, misdeeds and “accidents”?  Maybe beginning with Jim and Tammy Bakker and going back?

I am not of the Catholic faith, but you list 30 facts.  Are there not thousands (or millions?) of things these and other Popes have done which could be considered blessings?

Hey – didn’t you used to be a reporter for the New York Times?  

Oklahoma Howdy to JudgeNot,

Brother, I agree with you completely. All denominations have skeletons in the closet. In fact, all professions have skeletons in the closet. I'll give an example for police work, especially since all police officers in the entire country were effected by a single incident, Rodney King. Somehow or another, all police officers in the country were supposed to be partially guilty of that one incident. The actually facts are that millions of contacts are made between the police and the public every day, and only a tiny number involve anything wrong done by the police. I'm sure that the same could be said of just about every profession. I, for one, did not wish to take any responsibility or feel any shame for the Rodney King incident.

Smears and mass labeling of thousands or millions over the actions of a small number is always wrong.

Love In Christ,
Tom

[Tibby]

I sow-rey I'll never mock the trolls again.

Opps, there I go again

[The Crusader]

To bad they guys like creationist and The Crusader down seem to care for truth, uh? Never contributing probuctively to the baord, just trolling away.

Not nice Tibby.

Bible Quote For Today:

No rest for the wicked.  

LOL, I think the Bible quote went over tibbys head.

The Crusader

[michael_legna]

I sow-rey I'll never mock the trolls again.

Opps, there I go again

Can we find another name than trolls.

In Michigan anyone who lives above THE bridge is a YUPPER and anyone who lives below THE bridge is a troll. (and I do mean THE bridge, to distinguish it from the puny little thing out in San Francisco)  

[JudgeNot]

(and I do mean THE bridge, to distinguish it from the puny little thing out in San Francisco)

Hey!  I take that personally!  

Which of the puny bridges?  The Golden Gate, Bay Bridge, Richmond-San Raphael, Cartinez, San Mateo, Dumbarton, Benecia or Antioch?  Now – I’ll admit, the Bay Bridge is only 7 miles across (with a short tunnel in the middle), but puny

Hmmph!  

[Tibby]

Oh come on, I think I have both you beat! You guys know EVERYTHING in Texas is Bigger! We have cattle gaurds running across streams that are bigger then puny things you call Bridges!

Ok, no more calling them Trolls. Of course, I can think of sevreal words that would better fit these guys...   But, I said I'd stop mocking the trolls

[creationist]

Oops! I thought this was an Evangelical site so I posted some stuff about the whore of Babylon.
My mistake.


BTW. How long does one have to be here to lose their troll status?

[sincereheart]

BTW. How long does one have to be here to lose their troll status?

Hmmm.... good question. What say, good people? Tibby's been here since May. Is he still a troll?