SIN

[Littleboy]

Can man truely sin no more as our Lord commanded?
Everyone the Lord Helped or Healed, HE(JESUS) told them to go and SIN NO MORE or a worse thing WILL come upon you!!
Why would he make this statement if it's not Possible to keep from Sinning?

IF you can go without sinning for 2 hrs. why not 4? and if 4 why not 12?
12 why not 24hrs. and if you can keep from sinning for one day why not 2 days and so on?
Are Gods Commandments just to hard to bere?

Do you not know that once you come to Jesus and invite him in, YOU become a Temple of God?
And that we are to be HOLY, for he is HOLY that is within you?
WALK in the Spirit so you don't FULFILL the LUST of your Heart...
Their are at least another 100 places in the Bible that backs-up what I'm saying...
Once you find the Lord, YOU can become Righteous! OR the BIBLE is FULL of LIES!
AND I know Better that that!!!!
Your Loving Brother Duane
P.S
Have you read that the Prayers of a Righteous man Availeth Much?
And that Gods ears are shut to the UnGodly(SINNERS)
IF sin abides in you, GOD won't, and The Bible say's that you are a Child of Satan!
If you say man can't keep from sinning, YOU are saying that GOD is a LIAR!
Don't fall into that snare: JESUS would'nt have said to go and SIN NO MORE if it was IMPOSSIBLE to do!

[Brother Jerry]

Hmmm although I agree there is something to add to that.

You are correct that Jesus said to sin no more.  However the caveat would be that it does not say that if we do sin then we have lost our salvation.  Your wordings lead one to possibly come to the conclusion that if a person is saved and they fall and commit a sin then God will leave them.  This is not true.  And what needs to be clarified is acts of sin and living in sin.

I will tell you right now flat out that since accepting Christ into my life I have sinned.  And I will tell you that I will probably commit a sin tomorrow as well.  Anyone who says they are without sin is also a liar because that would mean they are perfect and there is but one perfect and that is Jesus.  I know I am not perfect, however I try to be.

There is a difference between sinning and being sinful.  I commit a sin when I exceed the speed limit.  I commit a sin when I do not put on my seat belt for the 1/8th mile drive to the grocery store.  Does that mean that God is not with me?  No, that means that I have committed a sin.  Now why did I do that?  Was it because I am a sinful person who wants to defy the authority of God by defying the authority of the government?  Or was it because I made a mistake and forgot or similar?  Neither justify my actions, and I could still get a ticket and have to pay a fine. 

But what is in the heart is what does matter.  To you, or the guy down the street watching me, you do not know me.  So a one time act would and seeing me get busted with a "I Love Jesus" bumper sticker on my car would cast a bad image to you.  However if you knew me and knew that I always tried very hard to stick to the speed limits and always buckled up and such, then when drove by and saw me pulled over would actually begin to wonder if something else happened.  If I was in trouble or something.  The image of me is different. 

Perceptions are very important and that is why we as Christians should strive to live a perfect life.  However just as you have mentioned that Jesus said to sin no more, the Bible all says that all are sinners and that even the saved sin.

Galatians 2:17
But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.

[Littleboy]

1 John 3:
1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.

4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.

6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

11 For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.

12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.

13 Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.

14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.

15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

16 Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.

17 But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?

18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.

19 And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him.

20 For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.

21 Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.

22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

[Littleboy]

17 Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine.

18 For the scripture saith, thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The labourer is worthy of his reward.

19 Against an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or three witnesses.

20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

21 I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality.

22 Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither be partaker of other men's sins: keep thyself pure.

23 Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.

24 Some men's sins are open beforehand, going before to judgment; and some men they follow after.

25 Likewise also the good works of some are manifest beforehand; and they that are otherwise cannot be hid.

[Littleboy]

2 Peter 2:
1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.

3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;

6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;
7 And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:

8 (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;)

9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.

11 Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord.

12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;

13 And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;

14 Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:

15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;

16 But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet.

17 These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.

18 For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.

19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.

20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.

21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.

22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

[Shammu]

The greatest weapon a Christian can possess is the power of effective prayer. In these days, it has become even that much more needed as evil continues to abound, that effective prayer is needed. The keys for effective prayer is given in the Word of God. There is nothing too hard for our God. (Genesis 18:14; Jeremiah 32:17, 27) Every prayer is answered by God. As you read that statement you are confounded but EVERY prayer is answered by God. Sometimes God answers Yes, sometimes No, sometimes wait......

A non-praying people is a powerless people. God gave His people the very keys of power, we just need to go forth and release His power. What would happen if God were to release all His power right now? Sin, satan and the demonic hosts would be totally destroyed. God is not even releasing a fraction of His Omnipotent power. God has given His saints the power of prayer, and He wants us to use that power of prayer.

We must pray till we receive that which we petition for. I have heard it said, I do not keep praying for something because it shows a lack of faith. Quite the opposite is true. By praying and petitioning the Lord till we receive that which we petition, it shows faith.

Luke 18:1-8 ALSO [Jesus] told them a parable to the effect that they ought always to pray and not to turn coward (faint, lose heart, and give up). 2 He said, In a certain city there was a judge who neither reverenced and feared God nor respected or considered man. 3 And there was a widow in that city who kept coming to him and saying, Protect and defend and give me justice against my adversary. 4 And for a time he would not; but later he said to himself, Though I have neither reverence or fear for God nor respect or consideration for man, 5 Yet because this widow continues to bother me, I will defend and protect and avenge her, lest she give me intolerable annoyance and wear me out by her continual coming or at the last she come and rail on me or assault me or strangle me. 6 Then the Lord said, Listen to what the unjust judge says! 7 And will not [our just] God defend and protect and avenge His elect (His chosen ones), who cry to Him day and night? Will He [f]defer them and delay help on their behalf? 8 I tell you, He will defend and protect and avenge them speedily. However, when the Son of Man comes, will He find [persistence in] faith on the earth?

[Def]

The greatest weapon a Christian can possess is the power of effective prayer. In these days, it has become even that much more needed as evil continues to abound, that effective prayer is needed. The keys for effective prayer is given in the Word of God. There is nothing too hard for our God. (Genesis 18:14; Jeremiah 32:17, 27) Every prayer is answered by God. As you read that statement you are confounded but EVERY prayer is answered by God. Sometimes God answers Yes, sometimes No, sometimes wait......

A non-praying people is a powerless people. God gave His people the very keys of power, we just need to go forth and release His power. What would happen if God were to release all His power right now? Sin, satan and the demonic hosts would be totally destroyed. God is not even releasing a fraction of His Omnipotent power. God has given His saints the power of prayer, and He wants us to use that power of prayer.

We must pray till we receive that which we petition for. I have heard it said, I do not keep praying for something because it shows a lack of faith. Quite the opposite is true. By praying and petitioning the Lord till we receive that which we petition, it shows faith.

Luke 18:1-8 ALSO [Jesus] told them a parable to the effect that they ought always to pray and not to turn coward (faint, lose heart, and give up). 2 He said, In a certain city there was a judge who neither reverenced and feared God nor respected or considered man. 3 And there was a widow in that city who kept coming to him and saying, Protect and defend and give me justice against my adversary. 4 And for a time he would not; but later he said to himself, Though I have neither reverence or fear for God nor respect or consideration for man, 5 Yet because this widow continues to bother me, I will defend and protect and avenge her, lest she give me intolerable annoyance and wear me out by her continual coming or at the last she come and rail on me or assault me or strangle me. 6 Then the Lord said, Listen to what the unjust judge says! 7 And will not [our just] God defend and protect and avenge His elect (His chosen ones), who cry to Him day and night? Will He [f]defer them and delay help on their behalf? 8 I tell you, He will defend and protect and avenge them speedily. However, when the Son of Man comes, will He find [persistence in] faith on the earth?

AMEN******AMEN
                                              AMEN[/b AMEN.
Love in Jesus Def

[Littleboy]

How did Sin No More & Sinning end up on prayer & how much someone should pray for something...
So please don't Highjack this topic, Please...
This is a serious topic and one should pay attention...
YLBD

8  He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

[Shammu]

How did Sin No More & Sinning end up on prayer & how much someone should pray for something...
So please don't Highjack this topic, Please...
This is a serious topic and one should pay attention...
YLBD

8  He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

I wasn't hijacking it brother, saying that sin, is a sin. Only through prayer, can we be free.

[Soldier4Christ]

Gal 3:22  But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.

1Jn 1:10  If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

Mat 26:41  Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.

All men are sinners by nature, none are perfect and cannot be perfect. We are perfected by His shed blood. This does not mean that we cannot stumble. Yes, we should strive daily to do as the Lord would have us do. Prayer is a very large part of this subject because it is through prayer and immersing ourselves in His word that we are made strong. Any man that says he is perfect and cannot sin is "a liar, and the word is not in" him.

We must be careful in this teaching as many have turned away from Him because they cannot be perfect and do commit sin. No, we should not purposefully and with complete abandon participate in sin but we should also realize that we, being in the flesh, will slip up. For even the simple thought, the desire to commit a sin is sinning. Jesus is faithful and just to forgive us those sins. Herein is the line that is drawn on this. Those that purposefully, without guilt, continue to live in sin do not have the Spirit within them. We are a continual work in process and that work will not be completed until we receive that glorified body. It is through the power of effective prayer and abiding in His word that we gain the strength to resist the temptations that we face and it is His strength not that of our own that can keep us from sinning.

[Littleboy]

Jesus is faithful and just to forgive us those sins. Herein is the line that is drawn on this. Those that purposefully, without guilt, continue to live in sin do not have the Spirit within them. We are a continual work in process and that work will not be completed until we receive that glorified body

Amen!
Yes i know that ALL have sinned and have fell short of the Glory of God...
I Have Sinned, Probably more than ALL of you put together, But, thats a different story...
Paul  said that he was Cheif of all sinners, I past him up on that by the age of 16...
1cor. 3:
16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.

19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.

20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.

21 Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are your's;

1cor. 6:
15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.

16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.

17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.

18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.

19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

[preacher]

Hmmm although I agree there is something to add to that.

You are correct that Jesus said to sin no more.  However the caveat would be that it does not say that if we do sin then we have lost our salvation.  Your wordings lead one to possibly come to the conclusion that if a person is saved and they fall and commit a sin then God will leave them.  This is not true.  And what needs to be clarified is acts of sin and living in sin.

I will tell you right now flat out that since accepting Christ into my life I have sinned.  And I will tell you that I will probably commit a sin tomorrow as well.  Anyone who says they are without sin is also a liar because that would mean they are perfect and there is but one perfect and that is Jesus.  I know I am not perfect, however I try to be.

There is a difference between sinning and being sinful.  I commit a sin when I exceed the speed limit.  I commit a sin when I do not put on my seat belt for the 1/8th mile drive to the grocery store.  Does that mean that God is not with me?  No, that means that I have committed a sin.  Now why did I do that?  Was it because I am a sinful person who wants to defy the authority of God by defying the authority of the government?  Or was it because I made a mistake and forgot or similar?  Neither justify my actions, and I could still get a ticket and have to pay a fine. 

But what is in the heart is what does matter.  To you, or the guy down the street watching me, you do not know me.  So a one time act would and seeing me get busted with a "I Love Jesus" bumper sticker on my car would cast a bad image to you.  However if you knew me and knew that I always tried very hard to stick to the speed limits and always buckled up and such, then when drove by and saw me pulled over would actually begin to wonder if something else happened.  If I was in trouble or something.  The image of me is different. 

Perceptions are very important and that is why we as Christians should strive to live a perfect life.  However just as you have mentioned that Jesus said to sin no more, the Bible all says that all are sinners and that even the saved sin.

Galatians 2:17
But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.

VERY GOOD POST.