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« on: November 09, 2007, 10:29:36 AM »

Federal government tells 85-year-old grandmother not to put an angel on Christmas tree

The Plant City Living Center has told Mrs. Arnold, an 85-year-old grandmother in Florida, that federal law prohibits her from displaying any religious words or items associated with Christmas in the common area of her apartment building.

According to the Center, The Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) issued a directive banning "any religious symbols or religious words associated with Christmas." Under the guidelines issued by HUD, the elderly grandmother cannot place a small Christmas tree outside her door (because that area is a "commons area") if it contains any religious symbols or religious words, even an angel!

If the residents want to have a Christmas party in their Community room, they cannot call it a Christmas party. The Center says HUD directs residents not to use the word "Christmas" but to use the word "Holiday."

A Sunday School class from a church near Mrs. Arnold's apartment comes every year to host a Hanging of the Greens and Christmas Party for all the residents. She said the highlight of their Christmas Party comes at the very end of The Hanging of the Greens when someone places the angel on top of their Christmas tree. Their tradition is now banned by the federal government.

The federal government is becoming increasingly active in banning Christianity from the public square. Earlier, the National Park Service removed the wording "Laus Deo" (Latin for "Praise be to God") from a replica of the cap of the Washington Monument in Washington, D.C. and the Veterans Administration banned the script of the flag-folding ceremony mentioning "Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob," and "Father, Son and Holy Ghost" at over 100 national cemeteries. Both of these were rescinded after AFA supporters sent emails to proper authorities.

 
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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2007, 11:15:38 AM »

What a SHAME! Cry
The sad thing is they don't realize they WILL answer to God for that and they don't even know it!
Bummer for them!
It's these kinda things that make me ask God to Step up and thrash this Country!!!
I hate this Country Sometimes, and if i do, I know God does too!
Good Luck America in trying to do this without God!!!
Sorry, as you might see, this gets my Blood Boiling Angry
Personally, I don't care if they get rid of "Satan Claws"and all the stuff that comes with it,
But, Not like this!
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2007, 12:27:59 PM »

It truly is a shame!!! 

God is already turning the US over to our depraved minds. 

I also know the day is coming when He will remove His hand of protection from us. Unless, we repent and return Him to His rightful place.

I like the reference to Satan Clause.

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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2007, 04:52:36 PM »

It truly is a shame!!! 

God is already turning the US over to our depraved minds. 

I also know the day is coming when He will remove His hand of protection from us. Unless, we repent and return Him to His rightful place.

I like the reference to Satan Clause.

Love in Christ, Eva

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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2007, 05:31:41 PM »

What makes me sad is here is a little old lady and many like her, who have celebrated many, many, many Christmas' with family and friends over several decades.  The old have so little but their memories and I'm sure it gives this little old grandma joy to decorate her little tree each year and set it outside her front door as a welcome to whomever will come and see her; and they take that away from her.
I would like to tie the lawyer's legs together and tell him to start running while I gather the pile of rocks that I'm going to throw!
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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2007, 08:27:22 PM »

What makes me sad is here is a little old lady and many like her, who have celebrated many, many, many Christmas' with family and friends over several decades.  The old have so little but their memories and I'm sure it gives this little old grandma joy to decorate her little tree each year and set it outside her front door as a welcome to whomever will come and see her; and they take that away from her.
I would like to tie the lawyer's legs together and tell him to start running while I gather the pile of rocks that I'm going to throw!


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« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2007, 03:10:04 AM »

Another Victory! Mrs. Arnold gets her Angel. Anti-Christmas policy rescinded

Thanks to your efforts, the Plant City Living Center recognized they were mistaken in not allowing residents to display Christian symbols. HUD says its policy is clear and that discrimination against Mrs. Arnold (and angels) will not be tolerated in HUD approved facilities. 

Plant City Living Center attorney Steve Edelstein issued this statement today:

I am pleased to report that the Plant City Living Center's recent newsletter regarding holiday decoration policies has been rescinded. The U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) guarantees the rights of citizens to display religious symbols in public. We support that guarantee."

"I want to take this opportunity to reiterate to you and to inform your readers that Plant City Living Center respects the religious beliefs of all of its residents. In furtherance of that policy, Plant City Living Center allows residents to decorate their apartments and the exterior areas of their apartments in any manner they choose. To use your recent Action Alert as an example, this policy allows any resident to place a small Christmas tree outside their door and to decorate their tree in any way they wish. By the way, Plant City's policy also allows angels to be displayed in common areas."
 
 
 
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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2007, 09:42:28 AM »

Another Victory! Mrs. Arnold gets her Angel. Anti-Christmas policy rescinded

Thanks to your efforts, the Plant City Living Center recognized they were mistaken in not allowing residents to display Christian symbols. HUD says its policy is clear and that discrimination against Mrs. Arnold (and angels) will not be tolerated in HUD approved facilities. 

Plant City Living Center attorney Steve Edelstein issued this statement today:

I am pleased to report that the Plant City Living Center's recent newsletter regarding holiday decoration policies has been rescinded. The U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) guarantees the rights of citizens to display religious symbols in public. We support that guarantee."

"I want to take this opportunity to reiterate to you and to inform your readers that Plant City Living Center respects the religious beliefs of all of its residents. In furtherance of that policy, Plant City Living Center allows residents to decorate their apartments and the exterior areas of their apartments in any manner they choose. To use your recent Action Alert as an example, this policy allows any resident to place a small Christmas tree outside their door and to decorate their tree in any way they wish. By the way, Plant City's policy also allows angels to be displayed in common areas."
 
 
 


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« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2007, 10:55:30 AM »

I wasn't aware of this situation so I didn't get the chance to help protest it. I was able to help out in the flag folding ceremony and the replica of the Washington Monument cap. I live in public housing at the moment and we have never had a problem displaying any such thing as of yet. I have a sign on my front door of an American flag with the words "God Bless America" and another one with:

Gal 2:20  I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

and yet another one that says: "Ask me about Jesus and eternal life." (I don't get any JW's or Mormons knocking on my door. They avoid my door as if it were labeled "Plague here".)

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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2007, 11:20:27 AM »

Well praise the Lord another victory!!!

Love in Christ, Eva

AMEN!
Praise be to God!
I like good news in the Morning, It Smells like VICTORY!
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« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2007, 12:28:56 PM »

I wasn't aware of this situation so I didn't get the chance to help protest it. I was able to help out in the flag folding ceremony and the replica of the Washington Monument cap. I live in public housing at the moment and we have never had a problem displaying any such thing as of yet. I have a sign on my front door of an American flag with the words "God Bless America" and another one with:

Gal 2:20  I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

and yet another one that says: "Ask me about Jesus and eternal life." (I don't get any JW's or Mormons knocking on my door. They avoid my door as if it were labeled "Plague here".)



Oh my gosh!  That's great!  I have one that simply says "Got God?" in the form of a caution sign on my window which is right next to my door!  I don't get many knocks either!
Also, my place is so small that from the front door you can see my Bible wide open on my coffee table!  I'm ready for em' if they ever do get brave enough!  hahaha!
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« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2007, 12:43:14 PM »

Several summers ago, after they quit coming to my door, I started going out into the yard as they were coming around to the neighborhood and I would go up to them and start talking with them and witnessing to them. Now the only ones that come around any of my neighbors are several Baptist and Assembly Of God churches.

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