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Brother Tom - I had a big "Awww" in my heart as I read about your department and your experience there. It would be wonderful if all police departments had the same ethics and work standards. I'm glad your experience was a really good one. And to be able to work with other Christians is such a blessing.
I just love the job I have now. I'm surrounded by other Christians and we pray before, during and after everything! There is nothing like the feeling you get when you're praying to the Holy God of the universe in a room full of brothers and sisters in Christ. You can just feel God's holy presence with you. I love it!
You know sometimes our days can be rushed. There is so much to do and places to be to on time. There have been days that I have said "Well I'll do my Bible reading later and then not get to it. Man! Does my day go badly. Such a difference than on the days that I just set all else aside read my Bible and pray for my day, before going to work, which is most days. I get my cup of coffee in the morning and usually will sit on my deck looking out over Seattle and just start it all of with some fellowship with our Lord! It just feels right, ya know? You get all that peace inside knowing that whatever the day brings, Gods' got your back. Amen?
Thanks for sharing about your dept. Brother Tom. I really enjoyed it!
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GOOD MORNING GRAMMYLUV!
You're most welcome. I have many pleasant memories of law enforcement, but there were also quite a few nightmares. The things that bothered me the most were horrible things happening to children. I'll just say that I don't enjoy talking about the bad things. There are events and pictures of UGLY events that police officers can never forget. Christians can make a difference in all kinds of work BECAUSE GOD lives in their hearts.
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Favorite Bible Quotes 7 - 1 Corinthians 13:4-13 Charity suffereth
long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself,
is not puffed up, 5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her
own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; 6 Rejoiceth not in
iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; 7 Beareth all things, believeth
all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. 8 Charity never
faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether
there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it
shall vanish away. 9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. 10
But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part
shall be done away. 11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I
understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man,
I put away childish things. 12 For now we see through a glass, darkly;
but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even
as also I am known. 13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these
three; but the greatest of these is charity.
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Saudi school director fined for failing to report child abuse
Associated Press - 8/2/2008 4:15:00 AM
The head of a Saudi-funded Islamic school in northern Virginia has been convicted of failing to report suspected child abuse.
Abdalla Al-Shabnan is director of the Islamic Saudi Academy, which has been accused of promoting religious intolerance. He was fined $500 after admitting that he failed to inform authorities about suspected sexual abuse of a five-year-old girl who attended the school's campus in Fairfax, near Washington, DC.
As part of a plea bargain, prosecutors dropped an obstruction of justice charge, which could have carried up to a year in jail. The charges against Al-Shabnan provided fuel to the school's critics, who say it teaches an intolerant strain of Islam that is prevalent in Saudi Arabia.
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Emerging Church leader promotes lifestyle rather than faith
A Christian broadcaster claims that Emerging Church leader Brian McLaren is fulfilling the biblical prophecy that in the latter days men will not put up with sound doctrine – according to II Timothy 4:3.
Brian McLaren recently addressed 650 Anglican bishops attending the Lambeth Conference, a meeting he says was characterized by "a loving atmosphere" and "a deep spirituality centered in Bible study, worship, and prayer." McLaren tells ChristianToday.com that he envisions a new era for Christianity, which "is more about the Christian way of life than it is about a rigid and polemicized systems of belief."
Tom McMahon, president of the The Berean Call ministry, says McLaren is obviously ashamed of the biblical gospel and is bent upon making it accommodate his own ideas about Christianity and "the Christian way of life."
"Once you throw off biblical doctrine, what do you have to guide you? This is to me a reflection of what Satan did with Eve in the Garden – this is Genesis 3:1, 'Yea, hath God said?' In other words, if you undermine what God had said, then what have you got?" he questions. "Well, you've got Proverbs 14:12, 'There's a way that seems right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death' -- or destruction."
McLaren also tells ChristianityToday.com the future of Christianity will also require Christians to "join humbly and charitably with people of other faiths -- Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Jewish, secularists and others -- in pursuit of peace, environmental stewardship," and other things that quote "matter greatly to the heart of God." But McMahon argues that what matters most to the heart of God is that individuals receive salvation on "his terms...through his gospel."
"And that's what people of the world, people of faith desperately need," the ministry leader concludes.
McLaren has joined the Matthew 25 Network, a liberal political action group of Catholics, Protestants, Pentecostals and Evangelicals seeking to get Senator Barack Obama (D-Illinois) elected president.
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The charges against Al-Shabnan provided fuel to the school's critics, who say it teaches an intolerant strain of Islam that is prevalent in Saudi Arabia.
And those critics, are right. Islam is intolerant of human welfare period. Especially of a child, as they are brain washed by the teachings islam.
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Christian-Muslim Statement Among First Fruits of 'Common Word' Gathering
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Christian-Muslim Statement Among First Fruits of 'Common Word' Gathering
Following a four-day conference, Christian and Muslim leaders from around the world announced the first fruits of the "Common Word" exchange through a joint statement that affirmed their support for religious freedom and further interfaith dialogue based on their common love for God and neighbor.
Sun, Aug. 03, 2008 Posted: 10:23 AM EDT
Following a four-day conference, Christian and Muslim leaders from around the world announced the first fruits of the "Common Word" exchange through a joint statement that affirmed their support for religious freedom and further interfaith dialogue based on their common love for God and neighbor.
During the "Loving God and Neighbor" meeting at Yale University, the high-profile leaders discussed how Christians and Muslims might work together to address world poverty, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the situation in Palestine and Israel, the dangers of further wars, and the freedom of religion.
On Thursday, over 140 conference participants unanimously approved a cooperative statement that signaled a new beginning of collaboration between Christians and Muslims where stronger assertions of faith would be not just be allowed but required.
Leith Anderson, president of National Association of Evangelicals and Geoff Tunnicliffe, international director of the World Evangelical Alliance were among top evangelical leaders at the July 28-31 conference who agreed to sign the document.
The statement began by affirming the "unity and absoluteness of God" and God's merciful love as central to both religions.
The most weight was placed on the second paragraph in which religious leaders affirmed a mutual respect for each other's faith.
"We recognize that all human beings have the right to the preservation of life, religion, property, intellect, and dignity. No Muslim or Christian should deny the other these rights, nor should they tolerate the denigration or desecration of one another's sacred symbols, founding figures, or places of worship," declared the statement, read by Prince Ghazi bin Muhammad of Jordan at a news conference Thursday.
The statement also denounced a death threat by Al Qaeda last week against Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah for hosting an interfaith conference this month in Madrid.
The leaders agreed to "denounce and deplore threats made against those who engage in interfaith dialogue."
"Dialogue is not a departure from faith," the statement affirmed. "It is a legitimate means of expression and an essential tool in the quest for the common good."
Additionally, conference participants also planned for a week every year when Muslim and Christian clergy would preach to their congregations the good aspect about the other's faith. Other practical steps to promote understanding between the two faiths included a website with notable Christian and Muslim books and a study guide with frequently asked questions about the two faiths.
The recent four-day gathering stemmed from a letter, titled "A Common Word Between Us and You," issued by 138 Muslim clerics last October calling for sincere dialogue between Muslims and Christians. In November, Christians responded with a statement that agreed to work with Muslims on pressing issues based on their common principles of love for God and neighbor. Over 500 Christian leaders endorsed statement issued by the Yale Center for Faith and Culture.
Some evangelical theologians and Christian leaders had criticized the Christian letter, saying it didn't assert the correct Christian view of God as the trinity.
But as the conference panel discussions would reveal, no one backed away from the core assertions of their faith as they engaged in highly academic and often theological conversations on topics that ranged from God's love to world poverty.
In an opinion piece, Dr. H.A. Hellyer, a consultant in West-Muslim relations, welcomed the "strong evangelical component" at the meeting.
"These were religious people; they weren’t interested in diluting their faiths," he wrote in a commentary published Saturday by The National, a newspaper based in the United Arab Emirates. "And in that, a type of sincerity emerged that was perhaps the greatest benefit of the initiative."
Professor Miroslav Volf, a leading organizer of the conference who also heads the Center for Faith and Culture, said during the news conference that the most important learning between the two communities took place over "coffee, tea and meal conversations."
WEA leader Tunnicliffe, who represents some 420 million evangelicals worldwide, invited Muslim leaders to take their bridge-building initiative one step further by learning more about evangelicals.
"Muslims feel they have been stereotyped and stigmatized in the media. As evangelical Christians we feel the same stereotyping," he said during closing remarks Thursday.
"We are a diverse community of Christians yet we are often portrayed through the media as being tied to one political agenda, one view of eschatology, and intolerant of all others," shared Tunnicliffe.
He said evangelicals share a "commitment to some core biblical truths" but hold a "diversity of views on many issues."
"Just as we promise to seek to move beyond the stereotyping of Muslims found in the media, can I ask you, my Muslim friends, to get to know us beyond what is reported in the newspapers and television programs? If we are going to continue to build this new bridge this must be a part of the architecture."
The "Common Word" conference was the first of a series of conferences to take place in the fall and next year that will center on promoting peace and understanding between the Abrahamic faiths. Future conferences are scheduled in October at Cambridge University, November at the Vatican, March 2009 at Georgetown University, and October 2009 at Royal Aal al-Bayt Institute in Jordan.
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They talk about a shared love for "God," but which God are they referring to: the God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob, the Alpha & Omega; or the counterfeit god of Islam that Muslims call "Allah." I understand that this document, which thankfully some Christians removed their names from, was pretty "wishy-washy" about Biblical truths. I particularly found this quote disturbing:
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He said evangelicals share a "commitment to some core biblical truths" but hold a "diversity of views on many issues."
In my opinion, holding a commitment to some core Biblical truths isn't good enough.
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believe the Bible in its entirety or you don't & there's no middle ground in my book.
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Loving God and Neighbor Together: A Christian Response to A Common Word Between
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Loving God and Neighbor Together:
A Christian Response to A Common Word Between Us and You
Preamble
As members of the worldwide Christian community, we were deeply encouraged and challenged by the recent historic open letter signed by 138 leading Muslim scholars, clerics, and intellectuals from around the world. A Common Word Between Us and You identifies some core common ground between Christianity and Islam which lies at the heart of our respective faiths as well as at the heart of the most ancient Abrahamic faith, Judaism. Jesus Christ's call to love God and neighbor was rooted in the divine revelation to the people of Israel embodied in the Torah (Deuteronomy 6:5; Leviticus 19:18 ). We receive the open letter as a Muslim hand of conviviality and cooperation extended to Christians world-wide. In this response we extend our own Christian hand in return, so that together with all other human beings we may live in peace and justice as we seek to love God and our neighbors.
Muslims and Christians have not always shaken hands in friendship; their relations have sometimes been tense, even characterized by outright hostility. Since Jesus Christ says, "First take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your neighbor's eye" (Matthew 7:5), we want to begin by acknowledging that in the past (e.g. in the Crusades) and in the present (e.g. in excesses of the "war on terror") many Christians have been guilty of sinning against our Muslim neighbors. Before we "shake your hand" in responding to your letter, we ask forgiveness of the All-Merciful One and of the Muslim community around the world.
Religious Peace—World Peace
"Muslims and Christians together make up well over half of the world's population. Without peace and justice between these two religious communities, there can be no meaningful peace in the world." We share the sentiment of the Muslim signatories expressed in these opening lines of their open letter. Peaceful relations between Muslims and Christians stand as one of the central challenges of this century, and perhaps of the whole present epoch. Though tensions, conflicts, and even wars in which Christians and Muslims stand against each other are not primarily religious in character, they possess an undeniable religious dimension. If we can achieve religious peace between these two religious communities, peace in the world will clearly be easier to attain. It is therefore no exaggeration to say, as you have in A Common Word Between Us and You , that "the future of the world depends on peace between Muslims and Christians."
Common Ground
What is so extraordinary about A Common Word Between Us and You is not that its signatories recognize the critical character of the present moment in relations between Muslims and Christians. It is rather a deep insight and courage with which they have identified the common ground between the Muslim and Christian religious communities. What is common between us lies not in something marginal nor in something merely important to each. It lies, rather, in something absolutely central to both: love of God and love of neighbor. Surprisingly for many Christians, your letter considers the dual command of love to be the foundational principle not just of the Christian faith, but of Islam as well. That so much common ground exists—common ground in some of the fundamentals of faith—gives hope that undeniable differences and even the very real external pressures that bear down upon us can not overshadow the common ground upon which we stand together. That this common ground consists in love of God and of neighbor gives hope that deep cooperation between us can be a hallmark of the relations between our two communities.
Love of God
We applaud that A Common Word Between Us and You stresses so insistently the unique devotion to one God, indeed the love of God, as the primary duty of every believer. God alone rightly commands our ultimate allegiance. When anyone or anything besides God commands our ultimate allegiance— a ruler, a nation, economic progress, or anything else—we end up serving idols and inevitably get mired in deep and deadly conflicts.
We find it equally heartening that the God whom we should love above all things is described as being Love. In the Muslim tradition, God, "the Lord of the worlds," is "The Infinitely Good and All-Merciful." And the New Testament states clearly that "God is love" (1 John 4:
. Since God's goodness is infinite and not bound by anything, God "makes his sun rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous," according to the words of Jesus Christ recorded in the Gospel (Matthew 5:45 ).
For Christians, humanity's love of God and God's love of humanity are intimately linked. As we read in the New Testament: "We love because he [God] first loved us" (1 John 4:19 ). Our love of God springs from and is nourished by God's love for us. It cannot be otherwise, since the Creator who has power over all things is infinitely good.
Love of Neighbor
We find deep affinities with our own Christian faith when A Common Word Between Us and You insists that love is the pinnacle of our duties toward our neighbors. "None of you has faith until you love for your neighbor what you love for yourself," the Prophet Muhammad said. In the New Testament we similarly read, "whoever does not love [the neighbor] does not know God" (1 John 4:
and "whoever does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not seen" (1 John 4:20 ). God is love, and our highest calling as human beings is to imitate the One whom we worship.
We applaud when you state that "justice and freedom of religion are a crucial part" of the love of neighbor. When justice is lacking, neither love of God nor love of the neighbor can be present. When freedom to worship God according to one's conscience is curtailed, God is dishonored, the neighbor oppressed, and neither God nor neighbor is loved.
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Since Muslims seek to love their Christian neighbors, they are not against them, the document encouragingly states. Instead, Muslims are with them. As Christians we resonate deeply with this sentiment. Our faith teaches that we must be with our neighbors—indeed, that we must act in their favor—even when our neighbors turn out to be our enemies. "But I say unto you," says Jesus Christ, "Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be children of your Father in heaven; for he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good" (Matthew 5:44-45). Our love, Jesus Christ says, must imitate the love of the infinitely good Creator; our love must be as unconditional as is God's—extending to brothers, sisters, neighbors, and even enemies. At the end of his life, Jesus Christ himself prayed for his enemies: "Forgive them; for they do not know what they are doing" (Luke 23:34 ).
The Prophet Muhammad did similarly when he was violently rejected and stoned by the people of Ta'if. He is known to have said, "The most virtuous behavior is to engage those who sever relations, to give to those who withhold from you, and to forgive those who wrong you." (It is perhaps significant that after the Prophet Muhammad was driven out of Ta'if, it was the Christian slave ‘Addas who went out to Muhammad, brought him food, kissed him, and embraced him.)
The Task Before Us
"Let this common ground"—the dual common ground of love of God and of neighbor—"be the basis of all future interfaith dialogue between us," your courageous letter urges. Indeed, in the generosity with which the letter is written you embody what you call for. We most heartily agree. Abandoning all "hatred and strife," we must engage in interfaith dialogue as those who seek each other's good, for the one God unceasingly seeks our good. Indeed, together with you we believe that we need to move beyond "a polite ecumenical dialogue between selected religious leaders" and work diligently together to reshape relations between our communities and our nations so that they genuinely reflect our common love for God and for one another.
Given the deep fissures in the relations between Christians and Muslims today, the task before us is daunting. And the stakes are great. The future of the world depends on our ability as Christians and Muslims to live together in peace. If we fail to make every effort to make peace and come together in harmony you correctly remind us that "our eternal souls" are at stake as well.
We are persuaded that our next step should be for our leaders at every level to meet together and begin the earnest work of determining how God would have us fulfill the requirement that we love God and one another. It is with humility and hope that we receive your generous letter, and we commit ourselves to labor together in heart, soul, mind and strength for the objectives you so appropriately propose.
Harold W. Attridge, Dean and Lillian Claus Professor of New Testament, Yale Divinity School
Miroslav Volf , Founder and Director of the Yale Center for Faith and Culture, Henry B. Wright Professor of Theology, Yale University
Joseph Cumming , Director of the Reconciliation Program, Yale Center for Faith and Culture
Emilie M. Townes , Andrew Mellon Professor of African American Religion and Theology and president-elect of the American Academy of Religion
Signatories to Loving God and Neighbor Together: A Christian Response to A Common Word between Us and You
Harold W. Attridge, Dean and Lillian Claus Professor of New Testament, Yale Divinity School
Miroslav Volf , Founder and Director of the Yale Center for Faith and Culture, Henry B. Wright Professor of Theology, Yale University
Emilie M. Townes, Andrew W. Mellon Professor of African American Religion and Theology, Yale Divinity School, President-elect of the American Academy of Religion.
Joseph Cumming , Director of the Reconciliation Program, Yale Center for Faith and Culture
Iain Torrance , President, Princeton Theological Seminary
William A. Graham , Dean, Harvard Divinity School
Robert R. Wilson , Hoober Professor of Religious Studies, Yale University
Frederick J. Streets , The Carl and Dorothy Bennett Professor in Pastoral Counseling, The Wurzweiler School of Social Work, Yeshiva University; Adjunct Associate Professor of Pastoral Theology, Yale Divinity School, Former Yale University Chaplain
Kathleen E. McVey , J. Ross Stevenson Professor of Early and Eastern Church History, Princeton Theological Seminary
Kristen Leslie , Associate Professor of Pastoral Care, Yale Divinity School
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The document implies that Christians & Muslims worship the same God & they make NO mention of Jesus being "the way, the truth & the life."
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This I find particularly disturbing, it does seem to pander more toward the muslim side of things, but that's is no surprise....... right??
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Troopers Run Amok, Conduct Mass Arrest of Pro-lifers In Maryland
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Troopers Run Amok, Conduct Mass Arrest of Pro-lifers In Maryland
Bel Air, MD – Eighteen pro-lifers participating in the Maryland Face the Truth Tour were arrested without warning by Hartford County State Troopers in the city of Bel Air, Maryland on Friday, August 1, 2008.
It was during the last tour stop of the week-long event, sponsored by Defend Life. when a State Trooper named Bradley approached the group and told them to move and put away their signs or they would be arrested. In an effort to comply, group leader Jack Ames gathered the group and moved down the road, into the city limits of Bel Air, Maryland.
The group stood peacefully on public property and did not “march” into the street as one news organization erroneously reported. Without warning, an estimated twenty patrol cars arrived on the scene and began arresting pro-life participants without a word. Those arrested were not told what they were being charged with, nor were they read their rights.
One of the women who participated in the tour overheard a police radio conversation where an unknown person told the troopers to make the arrests and that they would “figure out later” what charges would be filed.
At least two people suffered medical problems after having to sit for over a half hour with metal handcuffs that were too tight.
Two minors in the group were soon released, but the adults were held overnight. The men and women were held in two separate cells, but could hear each other. They passed the hours joining together in singing Christian hymns. The last of the pro-lifers were released on Saturday, August 2, at about 10:45 AM.
The group was eventually charged with loitering, failure to obey a lawful order, and disorderly conduct.
“There was some question about whether or not the group had a ‘demonstration permit.’ Are law enforcement officers now imitating the oppressive tactics that are used in Beijing or Tehran? The First Amendment of the Constitution is demonstration permit enough,” said Operation Rescue President Troy Newman, who had participated in the Maryland tour earlier in the week. “This is an open and shut case of officers who ran amok, and trampled upon the constitutional rights of their victims. Hartford County can expect to have to answer for these civil rights violations in court.”
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Why is this not being reported by the mainstream media!!
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Looks like a big Oops on the police side. The charges should be thrown out. Here of late, our Constitution is taking such a battering.
I just stumbled across this story and thought, oh persecution here is becoming like across the globe. It's so sad that folks still care and are facing being thrown in jail while the world yawns, how many killed today??
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State senator sues God
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State senator sues God
Lawmaker asks court to ban Almighty from 'harmful activities,' 'terroristic threats'
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A Nebraska state senator is moving forward with his controversial lawsuit against his maker, requesting "a permanent injunction ordering [God] to cease certain harmful activities and the making of terroristic threats."
State Sen. Ernie Chambers, I-Omaha, appeared before Douglas County District Judge Marlon Polk in a scheduling hearing against God on July 28.
Chambers, an atheist, requested that the court acknowledge the presence of God in the courtroom so he wouldn't be required to "serve notice" of the trial, according to the Omaha World-Herald.
The court had previously told Chambers the lawsuit would be thrown out if he was unable to serve notice to his Creator.
Chambers responded by arguing that he attempted to contact God on multiple occasions and that he should not be required to verify His existence when the U.S. government acknowledges Him by printing "In God We Trust" on its currency.
The complaint drew widespread criticism when Chambers filed the lawsuit against God last year for creating "fearsome floods, egregious earthquakes, horrendous hurricanes, terrifying tornadoes, pestilential plagues, ferocious famines, devastating droughts, genocidal wars, birth defects and the like."
Chambers also blames God for causing "calamitous catastrophes resulting in the wide-spread death, destruction and terrorization of millions upon millions of the Earth’s inhabitants including innocent babes, infants, children, the aged and infirm without mercy or distinction."
According to the lawsuit, the Creator "has manifested neither compassion nor remorse, proclaiming that defendant will laugh" when disaster strikes.
Chamber began his grievance as a way to call attention to "frivolous" lawsuits after several senators authored bills barring them. He said the Constitution mandates open courthouse doors to everyone – even those who seek to sue the Almighty.
"This started out as an exercise in the workings of the judiciary," he said. "My point and the crux of the matter is that everyone is entitled to their day in court. That's the whole crux of the matter, and I think people get caught up in the religion end of it – but that's not what this is about."
While Chambers hopes the court will rule against God, he doesn't expect any earth-shaking results from the decision.
"Once the court enters the injunction, that's as much as I can do," he told the World-Herald. "That's as much as I would ask the court. I wouldn't expect them to enforce it."
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State senator sues God
Lawmaker asks court to ban Almighty from 'harmful activities,' 'terroristic threats'
Posted: August 05, 2008
9:12 pm Eastern
© 2008 WorldNetDaily
A Nebraska state senator is moving forward with his controversial lawsuit against his maker, requesting "a permanent injunction ordering [God] to cease certain harmful activities and the making of terroristic threats."
State Sen. Ernie Chambers, I-Omaha, appeared before Douglas County District Judge Marlon Polk in a scheduling hearing against God on July 28.
Chambers, an atheist, requested that the court acknowledge the presence of God in the courtroom so he wouldn't be required to "serve notice" of the trial, according to the Omaha World-Herald.
The court had previously told Chambers the lawsuit would be thrown out if he was unable to serve notice to his Creator.
Chambers responded by arguing that he attempted to contact God on multiple occasions and that he should not be required to verify His existence when the U.S. government acknowledges Him by printing "In God We Trust" on its currency.
The complaint drew widespread criticism when Chambers filed the lawsuit against God last year for creating "fearsome floods, egregious earthquakes, horrendous hurricanes, terrifying tornadoes, pestilential plagues, ferocious famines, devastating droughts, genocidal wars, birth defects and the like."
Chambers also blames God for causing "calamitous catastrophes resulting in the wide-spread death, destruction and terrorization of millions upon millions of the Earth’s inhabitants including innocent babes, infants, children, the aged and infirm without mercy or distinction."
According to the lawsuit, the Creator "has manifested neither compassion nor remorse, proclaiming that defendant will laugh" when disaster strikes.
Chamber began his grievance as a way to call attention to "frivolous" lawsuits after several senators authored bills barring them. He said the Constitution mandates open courthouse doors to everyone – even those who seek to sue the Almighty.
"This started out as an exercise in the workings of the judiciary," he said. "My point and the crux of the matter is that everyone is entitled to their day in court. That's the whole crux of the matter, and I think people get caught up in the religion end of it – but that's not what this is about."
While Chambers hopes the court will rule against God, he doesn't expect any earth-shaking results from the decision.
"Once the court enters the injunction, that's as much as I can do," he told the World-Herald. "That's as much as I would ask the court. I wouldn't expect them to enforce it."
I think this is ridiculous and at the very least disrespectful to GOD. Mankind started out in the beautiful and perfect Eden, but mankind was kicked out for good reason. SO, here's an atheist mocking GOD in a courtroom, and he's also making a fool out of himself at the same time. This is about right for the times, but I would try to vote this clown out of office if he was my Senator. I give thanks that he isn't my Senator.
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For an "Athiest" it sounds like he has an awful lot of "faith" to me.
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