Immoral behavior

[nChrist]

Apostasy just keeps on growing, and growing. Its getting easier to see how the one world church will persecute and murder the saints. Embrace apostasy or else!!

2 Timothy 4:3-4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away [their] ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

AMEN!

These things are NOT subject to debate. The Holy Bible and GOD are the authority - not man. This is another reason why we place our Trust and Faith in JESUS CHRIST - not man. For all intents and purposes, many so-called churches have turned into nothing but dens of iniquity. The people will be coming to the misery of sin, NOT the comfort and Strength of CHRIST.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Thanks be unto God for His unspeakable GIFT, Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour Forever!

[nChrist]

Phony, ignorant Christians
Posted: January 25, 2008
1:00 a.m. Eastern
WorldNetDaily
By Joseph Farah
© 2008

Paul warned us about times like this and the way people – including those claiming to be professing Christians – would act.

"This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, high-minded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away," he writes in 2 Timothy 3:1-5.

And a chapter later (2 Timothy 4:3-4) adds: "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables."

I strongly believe Paul had in mind the kind of people who run major Protestant denominations like the United Methodist Church.

Today, at an event in Fort Worth, Texas, leaders of the denomination, which boasts membership by President Bush and Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, will consider divesting from all companies that do business with Israel.

To say that even considering such an action is hateful, unbiblical, anti-Christian and evil would be an understatement.

(Column continues below)

It's not even understandable except in the context of the kind of morally blind apostasy described by Paul.

Nevertheless, because so many people in our world do not know better and could easily be fooled by such discussions, let me explain in simple terms where the Methodists, and the Presbyterian Church USA and the United Church of Christ before them, are going wrong.

By calling for divestment from one nation in the world, the Methodists are suggesting in the strongest terms possible that Israel is the worst of the world's nations with regard to human rights.

As far as I know, the Methodists have no similar divestment plans for Iran, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Zimbabwe, Cuba, China or any other of dozens of tyrannical hellholes I could name. Israel is their only target.

That in itself is unbelievable. It shows how perverse this action really is. You have to believe up is down, left is right, black is white and right is wrong to accept such a bizarre concept.

The problem with these people is not that they don't understand the Middle East. It is simply that they are no longer able to tell right from wrong. They are no longer able to distinguish between good and evil. They are no longer able to see the difference between freedom and tyranny. They are no longer able to judge between criminal and victim.

They have, in short, completely lost their moral bearings.

This is no longer a church; it is an organization of misguided political activism. This is no longer a house of God; it is a mad house. This is no longer part of the bride of Christ; it is a whore to the world.

I know these are tough words, for which I am sure to be criticized by some of my Christian friends.

Let me say this. We have many problems in this country that need to be addressed first and foremost by the church. So often, I hear church leaders say that their commitment is exclusively to spreading the Gospel, not in making moral pronouncements, not in teaching right from wrong, not in applying the lessons of Scripture to the direction of our nation and world.

Too often the church allows itself to be intimidated by the world, subjugated by tax laws, seduced by government, cowed by the doctrine of feel-good liberalism.

That's what has happened to the Methodists and the Presbyterian Church USA and some other major denominations.

I would urge anyone still associated with the Methodists to divest yourself and your family from this institution. Divest it of your tithes and offerings. Divest it from your last will and testament. Divest it from your time and volunteer work. Divest your children from its Sunday school classes.

For those pastors leading Methodist churches who understand where your denomination is heading, it's time to pack up and divest yourself of links to the denomination.

The biblical principle at stake is the one about avoiding relationships in which we are unequally yoked. As Paul would say, avoid such people and institutions that have turned their backs on God, on the Bible, on what is right, on what is moral.

It's separation time.
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By calling for divestment from one nation in the world, the Methodists are suggesting in the strongest terms possible that Israel is the worst of the world's nations with regard to human rights. As far as I know, the Methodists have no similar divestment plans for Iran, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Zimbabwe, Cuba, China.

Have you seen anywhere in the articles where anyone questions them on how the bible instructs us 'those that bless Israel will be blessed, and those that curse them, will be cursed'?

I wonder what their answer would be to that question.

Another thought, why are Church's in the business of investing money? That maybe that is common practice but me personally would rather it was given away to the poor.

AMEN!

I'm happy to see that WND told the blunt truth in this matter. It's sad that Christian News knows the TRUTH, and churches are debating what's already been decided by GOD in the Holy Bible. There is no excuse for a Christian to be ignorant about Israel. Organized attempts by churches to hurt Israel in any way indicates total ignorance of the Holy Bible and the times in which we live. I must say that I'm impressed with WND more and more. WND is proving over and over again that it can be a source of news that Christians can trust. I'm simply talking about the TRUTH and a BIBLICAL perspective. Christians, I'm talking about a BIBLICAL WORLD VIEW, not a WORLDLY WORLD VIEW. We do have to live in this world, but the BIBLE tells us how to do it.

Brothers and Sisters, I hope that everyone understands the significance of news stories like this. The lost have a Worldly World view, but MORE is expected of Christians.

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Congo conflict claims 5 million lives in 10 years
Report cites war, disease and malnutrition; most conflict deaths since WW2

KINSHASA, Congo - War, disease and malnutrition are killing 45,000 Congolese every month in a conflict-driven humanitarian crisis that has claimed 5.4 million victims in nearly a decade, a survey released on Tuesday said.

The International Rescue Committee (IRC), which carried out the study with Australia's Burnet Institute, said Democratic Republic of Congo's 1998-2003 war and its aftermath had caused more deaths than any other conflict since World War II.

"Congo's loss is equivalent to the entire population of Denmark or the state of Colorado perishing within a decade," George Rupp, president of the aid group, said in a statement.

The findings were published on the day Congo's government and warring eastern rebel and militia factions were due to sign a cease-fire in the hope of halting fighting in the east which has raged on since the nominal end of the war.

Rupp said that although Congo's war formally ended five years ago, "ongoing strife and poverty continue to take a staggering toll."

"The conflict and its aftermath, in terms of fatalities, surpass any other since World War II," he added.

Malaria, diarrhea, pneumonia and malnutrition, aggravated by conflict, were the top killers in Congo, the survey said.

"Most of the deaths are due to easily treatable and preventable diseases through the collapse of health systems and the disruption of livelihoods," said IRC director of global health programs Richard Brennan, one of the survey's authors.

Congo has the lowest spending on health care of any country in the world at an average of just $15 per person per year.

"If you're in the United States, we spend $6,000 per person per year," Brennan said.

The study was conducted between January 2006 and April 2007 in 14,000 households in all the country's 11 provinces. It updated previous surveys which estimated the toll from Congo's war at around 4 million.

Hopes for peace
The IRC said an estimated 727,000 people died in excess of normal mortality during the latest survey period. Children under the age of 5 were the hardest hit, accounting for nearly half of all deaths despite making up 19 percent of the population.

Before the latest survey, humanitarian workers had estimated that more than 1,000 people a day were dying in Congo.

"Since our last study in 2004, there's been no change in the national rate, which is nearly 60 percent higher than the sub-Saharan average," Brennan said.

But in the east, where rebel groups, local militia, and Congo's own army prey on civilians with impunity, the mortality rate is 85 percent higher than the sub-Saharan African average.

The vast former Belgian colony's 1998-2003 war sucked in its neighbors, as foreign armies and rebel groups vied for control of the country's rich natural resources. The conflict wrecked infrastructure already weakened by decades of neglect and corrupt leadership and forced millions to flee their homes.

A 2003 peace agreement led to the formation of a transitional government and multi-party elections were held in 2006, won by President Joseph Kabila.

Rupp said he hoped the peace deal for the east, due to be signed on Tuesday by the government, Tutsi rebels and Mai Mai militias, could finally draw a line under Congo's crisis.

"We hope this week's peace agreement in North Kivu will mean an end to the hostilities and a restart of reconciliation and recovery efforts," he said.

The IRC called for security reforms, increased spending on basic services like health care and continued support for the 17,000-strong United Nations peacekeeping mission in Congo.

"Recovery from conflict is clearly a protracted process, particularly when it's on the back of decades ... of economic and political decline," Brennan said.

"There are no quick turnarounds ... So the international community needs to be in there for the long haul," he added.

Congo conflict claims 5 million lives in 10 years

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UCL professor: Terror 'Palestinians' moral right'
jonny paul - london , THE JERUSALEM POST    Jan. 27, 2008

In a lengthy and fiery debate at Oxford University over the weekend, the student union conceded Israel's "right to exist" by just over 100 votes.

Proposing the motion "This House believes that the State of Israel has a right to exist" were Norman Finkelstein, formally of De Paul University in Chicago, and Ted Honderich, professor of philosophy at University College London.

Questions about the seriousness of the event were raised ahead of the debate, since not only opposers of the motion, but also its proposers, were considered detractors of Israel.

Finkelstein, who had been supporting the motion, voted against it, while Honderich, who had crossed sides during the debate, voted for the motion, adding to accusations that the debate was a farce.

Supporting the motion, Jessica Prince from Oxford's University College spoke about the "absurdity" of the debate title. "I didn't think it was a question that we ask anymore," she said.

Opposing the motion, Lewis Turner from Oxford's New College said that if Israel is supposed to be a safe haven for Jewish people, "it's not working out because it's one of the most dangerous places for them to live."

"I was shocked to hear Honderich actually say that, 'Palestinians have a moral right to terrorism,'" said Olga Belogolova, a Jewish student from Boston University studying at Oxford for the semester.

"It was disappointing to see how many people were applauding the obviously radical speakers who were at times dishonest during the debate," she said. "It was disappointing to see students who agreed with the justification of terrorism and who were not questioning the rhetoric of the speakers."

"The debate was another childish attempt at sensationalism by the Oxford Union," said Yair Zivan, campaign director of the Union of Jewish Students (UJS). "To have a debate about Israel without a single mainstream voice present shows the debate was the farce we expected. The Oxford Union owes better to its membership to allow for intellectual debate and they should try to seriously engage with issues."

The Oxford University Debating Society refused to comment on the debate.

Meanwhile, Jewish and Israeli students at the London School of Economics (LSE) claimed victory after defeating a controversial motion calling for a boycott of Israel and calling Israel an apartheid state, raised at the university's union general meeting on Thursday.

The motion was defeated by seven votes following a mobilization of Jewish and Israeli students on campus.

The motion, proposed by LSE student Emiliano Huet-Vaughn, an International Solidarity Movement activist, branded Israel an apartheid state and called on the LSE student union to start a campaign to lobby the university and National Union of Students to divest from and boycott Israel.

Released 48 hours before the union meeting, the motion created a huge backlash and prompted Jewish and Israeli students to respond to what UJS called "extreme anti-Israel rhetoric on campus."

"Israel is an apartheid state, a state that promotes racism and xenophobia through acts of parliament, a democracy so-called only for people recognized in Israeli laws as 'Jews,' supported by a set of racist laws under which different laws regarding citizenship, housing, land ownership and marriage apply depending on whether someone is classified in law as 'Jewish' or 'non-Jewish,'" the motion read.

"[The year] 2008 marks the 60th anniversary of the Nakba, the expulsion of the great majority of Palestinian Arabs from their homes and homeland in historic Palestine between 1947 and 1949. The expulsion, planned and systematically carried out by the founders of the State of Israel, was essential to the creation of an expressly Jewish state in the political Zionist sense of the term," the motion said.

The motion also supported the one-state solution and the end of the Israeli state. "Israel should be a state for all its citizens and stop discriminating against the indigenous Palestinian population. The Palestinians have the right to return to their homeland and receive just compensation and Israel should implement all international laws that it is currently violating," it read.

Following a highly tense and hostile meeting, 292 voted for the motion, 285 against it and 100 abstained.

"It was fantastic to see so many students turn out and show their opposition to this horrific one-sided and unconstructive motion," said Zivan. "Jewish student activists once again showed that they will stand up for Israel in even the harshest circumstances and won't let these kinds of actions go unchecked.

"It was welcome to see so many students with no personal affiliation to the Middle East conflict vote against the motion and reject extremist rhetoric at LSE," he continued. "We hope this sets the tone for a more civilized and balanced debate in the future."

"We only had 48 hours to organize the campaign but the response has been phenomenal," said Sam Cohen, a graduate student at LSE who led the campaign and spoke against the motion at the meeting. "Jewish and non-Jewish students proudly opposed extremist language at LSE and have shown that we want a moderate, sensible and constructive debate around the issues of the Middle East. I really hope this is the last time people try to polarize the student body in this way."

"It's [the motion] a really negative development," said Lior Herman, an Israeli PhD student at LSE. "While I'm very happy with the academic level here [LSE] I don't feel as comfortable. Every day there seem to be posters and slogans against Israel. The motion was the culmination... it did nothing to help the Palestinians or promote understanding.

"Not just Jewish and Israeli students want sensible discussion and bridge-building. Instead we're getting bridge-burning. Instead of doing what they should do, looking after the welfare of students, the [LSE] union meetings have become a platform for a minority to push their sinister agenda. Thus a large number of students, not just Jewish or Israeli, attended [the meeting] to make their voices heard," he said.

UCL professor: Terror 'Palestinians' moral right'

[HisDaughter]

students who agreed with the justification of terrorism

There's a disturbing thought.

[Soldier4Christ]

There's a disturbing thought.

Disturbing, yes. Unexpected, no. After all it is the liberal mindset.

[nChrist]

This so-called debate is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of. Many folks abandon common sense entirely when discussing issues surrounding Israel. As an easy example, what would other countries in the world do if their neighbors lobbed rockets into their midst daily? Would they just continue to tolerate it and do nothing? Israel has been attacked almost continually since it came back into existence. Are they really so horrible for their insignificant and insufficient defense of innocent people? Some morons actually believe that Israel is responsible for all of the violence.

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Australian Anglican, Catholic Heads to Sign Covenant
By Sze Leng Chan
Christian Post Correspondent
Tue, Jan. 29 2008 09:20 AM ET

In a sign of a warming relationship between the Anglicans and the Catholics in New South Wales, Australia, a formal covenant will be signed between the two groups.

The Anglican Archbishop of Newcastle, Dr. Brian Farran, said it was an indication of the common value they shared together and a step towards “healing” the differences.

This covenant, the second time it was agreed upon in Australia, would be signed by three regional heads of the two largest Christian denominations, spanning areas around Newcastle. A Fairfax newspaper reported the agreement will entail holding an annual ecumenical service of worship, an annual joint clergy day, an annual exchange of pulpits and examining the possibilities of sharing church planting.

Bishop Farran told the Sydney Morning Herald that sharing resources would benefit both parties given they were limited and emphasized the goodwill both denominations enjoyed over the years.

"There are already cases in rural areas where resources are stretched and many 'competing' church buildings are being used for a few parishioners. This will be a statement that we don't want to waste resources,” Farran said.

"There is much goodwill already between our denominations and we have been running successful combined clergy days for many years,” he added. “I'm sure there will be a solid welcome by parishioners for the annual exchange of pulpits."

The covenant is scheduled to be signed on April 2 in the Newcastle Anglican Cathedral.

Australian Anglican, Catholic Heads to Sign Covenant

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Bill irks religious leaders
Proposal would affect hiring by groups that get government funds
By ED SEALOVER
THE GAZETTE
January 28, 2008 - 12:24AM

DENVER - Some services for the needy from Catholic Charities and other religious organizations could end if the General Assembly passes a bill that would forbid hiring based on religious preference, organization leaders warn.

HB1080 applies to religious groups that receive federal or state money to run parts of their organizations. Catholic Charities, for example, gets grants for its soup kitchen.

The measure would prohibit discriminatory employment in those areas that benefit from government funding. The prohibition would extend not just to applicants’ religion but to other protected traits, such as age, gender and sexual orientation.

The bill is a follow-up to a controversial 2007 law that bans hiring, firing, promotion and demotion based on sexual orientation and religion. It included an exemption for religious organizations, but House Majority Leader Alice Madden, who sponsored that law as well as the new bill, said she was questioned about why groups that get government funding should not play by the same rules as everyone else.

Madden, D-Boulder, pulled the bill from the House calendar temporarily while she works on its language. She wants to find a way to exempt employees who may work for, say, a federally funded part of a religious organization but also work in other areas.

“This is about the types of jobs a religious group is using taxpayer money for,” Madden said. “We’re not trying to cause a great deal of problems, but when someone is funded by the government, we think they should follow the law.”
But religious leaders argue that the bill would cause problems.

Archbishop Charles Chaput of the Catholic Archdiocese of Denver wrote a column calling the bill “offensive, implicitly bigoted and designed to bully religious groups out of the public square.”

Though Catholic Charities hires many people who are not Catholic to work in soup kitchens and other areas, the church’s ability to bring in someone who shares the faith and mission of the organization is essential to the program’s existence, he said.

“Catholic Charities has no interest at all in generic dogoodism; on the contrary, it’s an arm of Catholic social ministry,” Chaput wrote of one of the largest charitable organizations in the state. “When it can no longer have the freedom it needs to be ‘Catholic,’ it will end its services. This is not idle talk. I am very serious.”

Bishop Michael Sheridan of the Catholic Diocese of Colorado Springs noted that the local arm of Catholic Charities receives far less of its budget from grants — 3 percent to 5 percent, he estimated — but said that he would forgo all government money rather than play by new rules. That would not shut down major missions like the Marian House soup kitchen but would have an impact on how the church could reach out, he said.

“We’ve got people that we’re feeding and families that we’re helping that are going to be left high and dry without our services,” Sheridan said. “It’s my hope that if people could come to see how bad this law is, it’s going to come to die.”

A legislator who worked with Madden on the bill said it’s on hold for the moment because Gov. Bill Ritter, a Catholic, said he would not sign it.

Tom Minnery, a Focus on the Family vice president and board member for the Alliance Defense Fund for preservation of the freedom of religion, questioned whether such a bill is legal. He claimed that despite its nondiscriminatory title, it discriminates specifically against churches. Large groups from the Salvation Army to the Denver Rescue Mission could be affected, and a lawsuit could be prepared if the measure is passed, he said.

Madden, who was alerted to concerns by the Anti-Defamation League, insists she will move forward with the bill as soon as she comes up with the proper language. She did not give a time frame.

“We just want to get to the point where it’s clear that when you’re using tax dollars you can’t discriminate against people, but you do so in a way that preserves liberties,” she said.

Bill irks religious leaders

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Fly naked on Germany's first nudist holiday flight
Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:03am EST

FRANKFURT (Reuters) - German nudists will be able to start their holidays early by stripping off on the plane if they take up a new offer from an eastern German travel firm.

Travel agency OssiUrlaub.de said it would start taking bookings from Friday for a trial nudist day trip from the eastern German town of Erfurt to the popular Baltic Sea resort of Usedom, planned for July 5 and costing 499 euros ($735).

"It's expensive, I know," managing director Enrico Hess told Reuters by phone. "It's because the plane's very small. There's no real reason why a flight in which one flies naked should be more expensive than any other."

The 55 passengers will have to remain clothed until they board, and dress before disembarking, said Hess. The crew will remain clothed throughout the flight for safety reasons.

"I wish I could say we thought of it ourselves but the idea came from a customer," Hess told Reuters by phone. "It's an unusual gap in the market."

Naturism, or "free body culture" (FKK) as it is known in Germany, was banned by the Nazis but blossomed again after the Second World War, particularly in eastern Germany.

"There are FKK hotels where you can go into the restaurants and shops naked, for example," Hess said. "For FKK fans -- not that I'm one of them -- it's nothing unusual."

"I don't want people to get the wrong idea. It's not that we're starting a swinger club in mid-air or something like that," he added. "We're a perfectly normal holiday company."

Fly naked on Germany's first nudist holiday flight

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Holocaust-themed Rio Carnival float causes strain
Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:55pm EST

By Pedro Fonseca

RIO DE JANEIRO (Reuters) - A Carnival float with a pile of model dead bodies commemorating the Holocaust is causing unease before the lavish parades in Rio de Janeiro this weekend.

The Viradouro samba organization, or school, plans to feature the grim display when it marches in the Sambadrome parade strip on Sunday, despite objections from a local Jewish group.

"Really, it makes no sense addressing this theme with drums and dancing girls," said Sergio Niskier, president of the Israelite Federation in Rio de Janeiro state, referring to the slaughter of Jews by Nazi Germany in World War Two.

"There are still survivors of that horror who have the marks of that tragedy on their skin," he said.

Rio's Carnival is famed for the parades by samba schools with glitzy floats and costumes and street parties where costumed revelers drink and dance all night.

The elaborately decorated floats are a key part of each samba school's presentation, along with thousands of dancers and drummers led by near naked Carnival queens.

Viradouro insisted its Holocaust float is not meant to offend anyone.

"The float is extremely respectful, it's a warning, it's something shocking that we don't want to happen ever again," said Paulo Barros, Viradouro's artistic director.

Viradouro's parade theme is "Shockers" and it includes floats depicting the shock of birth, the shock of horror and the shock of cold.

Barrossaid the Holocaust float would be the only one without dancers on top.

"If we had people dancing on top of dead bodies that would indeed be disrespectful," he told Reuters.

Traditionally, the use of religious references causes last-minute problems for samba schools. In the past, the Roman Catholic Church has barred floats with figures of Christ and the Virgin Mary and samba schools had to cover or modify them.

Holocaust-themed Rio Carnival float causes strain

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Rio Carnival itself is immoral from what I've read and seen, sort of like those San Francisco parades. So I guess we shouldn't expect them to take the high road on anything else either.

[Soldier4Christ]

Sex show returns to college that banished cross 
'Our students have wisdom to put such programming in context'

A promotion of the sex industry, G-strings, pasties and nudity included, is returning to the historic College of William & Mary, which earlier removed a cross from the famous Wren Chapel because it could offend visitors.

Gene Nichol, president of the college that was a Christian institution at its founding, was the decision-maker when the cross first was banished from the chapel, then restored to a special secured case when alumni protested. He confirmed he would not alter plans for the Sex Workers' Art Show to be performed twice on Feb. 4.

Last year, the show's appearance on campus provoked outrage from alumni and supporters who accused Nichol of staging an affront to religion and morality in light of his then-recent decision to withdraw the cross from display in the chapel.

He said this year that students requested the show, they voted to spend campus funding for it, and he could not change that because of "the First Amendment and the defining traditions of openness that sustain universities."

Rector Michael Powell said the Student Assembly this year voted to spend $2,200 in student fee funds on the show.

It is scheduled to be performed at the Williamsburg school at 7 p.m. and 9:30 p.m. in the University Center's Commonwealth Auditorium, where strippers, prostitutes and other sex workers will appear.

According to a report in the Newport News Daily Press, the Rev. Jennifer Ryu of Williamsburg Unitarian Universalists would have allowed the show at her church before she learned that it could violate a county ordinance on public nudity, which the show features.

"We have a reputation in town of being an open-minded church," she told the newspaper. "With all the controversy, it's hard to make an informed judgment about the show unless you see it."

However, John Foubert, an education professor who researches sexual violence toward women, said studies confirm that exposing men to pornography made them more likely to commit sexual assault.

"I'm opposed to – and working strongly against – pornography and the industry," Foubert told the paper. "What I believe the Sex Workers' Art Show does is promote the porn industry, and it goes beyond a speech issue. ... The issue here is an issue of public nudity."

The Flat Hat student newspaper noted Foubert expects the sex show "to bring increased ... sexual aggression, and by itself may also lead to a short-term increase in incidents [of] sexual assault at William and Mary as well."

Thomas Chappell, of the class of 2011, objected to the use of mandatory student fees on the sex show.

"Those that choose to attend should bear the full cost of the ticket prices instead of using everyone else's money to help the people that attend pay for admission," he said.

The student newspaper's online forum, however, raised some additional objections.

"Can you imagine if a student Christian organization wanted the university to sanction its evangelistic presentation on campus in the name of First Amendment freedoms that Nichols claims to prize? No way," wrote one participant. "Nichol has already demonstrated his hostility to organize religion quite clearly. But organized porn? Hey, no problem."

"It's laughable for Nichol to insist his hands are tied on this show and there's nothing he can do about it. He could do something about it if he REALLY wanted to. This is the same president who unilaterally made a decision overturning decades of powerful William and Mary tradition with the Wren Cross. He can't have it both ways. His actions regarding institutional or traditional constraints at the college seem to vary according to his personal preferences. Sure his hands may be tied, but he tied them himself this time," added "C.K."

"There was a time when I regarded W&M as the premier school in the state," wrote JM, who identified himself as an art professor. "Stories like these make me revise that opinion."

A year ago, topless dancers, demonstrations of sex toys and Q&As with male and female prostitutes were featured on the campus where former Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor serves as chancellor.

Among the performances was a striptease by 200-pound-plus Dirty Martini, who finished in a G-string and pasties. Another performer in military fatigues stripped, used a fake gun as a sex prop and told the audience that sexual favors would be given if "doing so can end the war. Just don't force me."

"It's just so out there and expressive," Josh Campbell, a member of Lamba Alliance, one of six student groups to sponsor the 2007 event, told the local paper. "It's hip, it's in your face, and it's exciting."

William & Mary made the national spotlight in 2006 when WND revealed that university administrator Melissa Engimann circulated an e-mail noting that the cross in Wren Chapel was going to be placed in permanent storage to make the chapel "less of a faith-specific space."

The cross had been in the chapel for decades; the chapel has been on the campus of the second-oldest university in the U.S. for centuries. Nevertheless, Nichol ruled the cross, because of one written complaint, had to go. He later backtracked when students and alumni put together a petition with more than 10,000 signatures.

A special committee later determined the cross should be put on permanent display in a glass case in the chapel,and available for use during "appropriate religious services."

[nChrist]

Brothers and Sisters,

I won't say that I'm shocked because I'm NOT. There are examples almost daily now that filth and garbage is welcome almost everywhere, but GOD isn't. The sewers are open and it's hard to get away from the stench. It's ironic that nearly all of the premier colleges in this country started out as Christian Colleges, but GOD is no longer welcome on the campus. Our societies are collapsing under the weight of filth, decadence, and depravity.  It's a course of self-destruction, and the devil loves it.

[Def]

Brothers and Sisters,

I won't say that I'm shocked because I'm NOT. There are examples almost daily now that filth and garbage is welcome almost everywhere, but GOD isn't. The sewers are open and it's hard to get away from the stench. It's ironic that nearly all of the premier colleges in this country started out as Christian Colleges, but GOD is no longer welcome on the campus. Our societies are collapsing under the weight of filth, decadence, and depravity.  It's a course of self-destruction, and the devil loves it.

Canker of the soul..