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California School Battles Over “In God We Trust”
“In God We Trust” is the National motto. Of course, when it comes to the public schools…political correctness trumps patriotism everytime. Especially if the patriotism mentions a non-specific deity!
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The Kern High School District is expecting a big turnout at its meeting tonight when trustees are expected to vote on whether posters carrying the phrase: "In God We Trust" should be posted in classrooms along with the constitution and the bill of rights.
The idea was presented by trustee Chad Vegas who claims the plan promotes patriotism at schools, but some say, the phrase pushes religion into public schools.
Two members, on the five person board, have said they do not support the proposal. Board member Bryan Batey says his "no" vote would defeat trustee Chad Vegas' effort to post the national motto, along with the bill of rights and the constitution in all classrooms.
The KHSD Board will meet at 7 p.m. at 5801 Sundale Avenue in Bakersfield. The district is making accomodations for a big turnout before the trustees vote on the issue.
The latest stupid PC battle where the mere mention of an unspecified diety sends red flags waving for liberals and white flags waving for the weak minded! Sad that a little patriotism causes such a ruckus! Geez! Mention God and its a huge debate! But college credit for burning a flag??? Now that is true patriotism. The liberals are so backwards. Sadly, our public schools have already been captured by their way of thinking.
The imaginary ‘wall of separation” is a sacred thing to protect for liberals. Unless of course it is dhimmitude disguised in the name of diversity!
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A federal judge says a Contra Costa County school was merely teaching seventh-graders about Islam, not indoctrinating them, in role-playing sessions of a history class that called for students to adopt Muslim names and recite language from prayers.
In a ruling announced Wednesday, U.S. District Judge Phyllis Hamilton dismissed a suit by two Christian students and their parents who claimed the use of role-playing at Excelsior School in Byron during the 2001-02 school year amounted to an unconstitutional endorsement of Islam.
During the course at the middle school, teacher Brooke Carlin, using an instructional guide, told her students that they would adopt roles as Muslims for three weeks. She said she stressed that the exercise was only a role- playing game to teach them what Muslims believe.
She encouraged them to use Muslim names, recited prayers in class, required students to recite a line from a prayer and made them give up something for a day, such as television or candy, to simulate fasting during Ramadan. On the final exam, students were asked for a critique of elements of Muslim culture.
That was all within constitutional bounds, Hamilton said, because the purpose was educational, not religious, and students engaged in no actual religious exercises or demonstrated “any devotional or religious intent.”
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A federal judge says a Contra Costa County school was merely teaching seventh-graders about Islam, not indoctrinating them, in role-playing sessions of a history class that called for students to adopt Muslim names and recite language from prayers.
The schools, courts CAIR and ACLU need to take lessons from Theodore Roosevelt.
"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people." -
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Quote from: DreamWeaver on November 05, 2007, 10:06:26 PM
The schools, courts CAIR and ACLU need to take lessons from Theodore Roosevelt.
"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people." -
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Somebody needs to read this to Obama. Oh heck, read it to all the Democrats. And hand it to each immigrant upon arrival.
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I just read that the school board has approved it. It's on Fox News main page.
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Yeah! Here it is:
California School District Approves 'In God We Trust' Classroom Displays
Trustees of the largest high school district in the country voted 4-1 Monday night to mandate displays bearing the nation's motto — "In God We Trust" — and other historical documents in over 2,300 district classrooms and offices.
The display of the Constitution, Declaration of Independence and Bill of Rights will be included in the posters approved by district trustees in Bakersfield, Calif. Monday night.
Kern County High School District trustee Chad Vegas initially proposed the measure as a way of promoting patriotism. But the idea sparked a contentious debate.
"I'm exteremely pleased the measure passed and was in fact expanded beyond what I had originally proposed," said Vegas.
In addition to placing the displays in over 2,300 classrooms, the posters will also be hung in district boardrooms, libraries, administrative offices and other rooms.
Board President Bob Hampton, a former teacher in the district, told The L.A. Times he would vote against the posters because they reflect a "spiritual agenda."
"The spiritual side of students belongs at home and at church, not in the educational system," Hampton said.
The classroom displays were first suggested by the non-profit group In God We Trust — America Inc., whose president, Jacquie Sullivan, is a Bakersfield councilwoman.
"I encouraged the trustees to put this on the agenda," she said. "It's very important. We need to promote patriotism and promote it in our schools. We can’t just assume that the younger generations are going to have that strong love for God and their country the way the older generations do."
Sullivan's organization has offered to provide funding for the project at Kern.
The councilwoman, who said she is a registered Republican and a Christian who attends a local Baptist church, told FOXNews.com that she has neither a religious nor political agenda in pushing for the measure.
"It’s not political. It’s not religious. It’s patriotism," Sullivan said. "American patriotism is love of God and love of country. It's pride in our country."
She believes schools are becoming more casual about teaching children to appreciate the ideals and values the United States was founded on, and she thinks it's important to "get back to the basics."
"Some schools have gotten so lax as to not be pledging allegiance to the flag everyday," Sullivan said. "We can easily get out of the habit of doing good things. (Patriotism) is something that continually needs to be taught."
And she believes that most Americans have faith in God, so having the national motto posted in school shouldn't offend anyone.
"We are faith-based people for the most part," Sullivan said. "Sometimes you have to go with the majority."
Other Bakersfield residents said there's nothing wrong with posting the nation's motto on classroom walls — even if it does mention God.
"Most kids in Bakersfield already have that seed planted, but for the others, it couldn't hurt," Malia Casarez told the Times. "My daughter is just 9 months old and I'm already scared of sending her to school, with all the things you hear about."
Trustee Bryan Batey said he could support displaying the posters in some classrooms, but not all. Two other members on the five-person board have said they do not support the proposal, The Bakersfield Californian reported.
The Kern district superintendent's office and the office of trustees did not immediately return calls from FOXNews.com seeking comment.
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Hi Pastor,
I heard something the other day about getting "in God we trust" off the new coins to make more room for
something else!
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They have been working at the agenda for some time. Some of the new coins have had it placed on the thin edge of the coins.
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That was all within constitutional bounds, Hamilton said, because the purpose was educational, not religious, and students engaged in no actual religious exercises or demonstrated “any devotional or religious intent.”
I wonder if they would have thought it was educational if a child came into school with some paper towel rolls taped to his stomach and painted red...then ran into the middle of the class room and yelled "for Allah" then "BOOOM!"
I mean that is what Islam teaches and we would want to ensure that we teach our children correctly is it not? We would not want them to leave out anything important otherwise it is tainted. I wonder if they started off this lesson with everyone carrying getting beaten and scourged and having to carry their own cross to class in order to be crucified? I mean we would want to ensure that the children understand what it means to be Christian as well would we not? If we are allowing them to learn what it means to be Islamic...why not Jewish, or Christian, or even Buddhist for that matter?
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