Paul was not a "Greek Jew"!

[ollie]

In response to certain posts claiming Paul was a Greek Jew and spent too much time with the Greeks..........

Let Paul Speak for himself:

Philippians 3:4.  Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:
 5.  Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;
 6.  Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.
 7.  But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ.
 8.  Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,
 9.  And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:


Paul's time with the Greeks was after his conversion to Christ.
After his conversion he went back to Jerusalem and spent time with the Jews in Christ.

[JesusLives]

Acts 22:1-3
Men, brethen, and fathers, hear ye my defense which I make now unto you.

(And when they heard that he spake int he hebrew tongue to them, they kept the more silence; and he saith,)

I am verily a man which am a JEW, born in TARSUS, a city in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward God, as ye all are this day.

Ollie, I believe this scripture is in defense of your statement.

Nice post brother!

[Petro]

Greek Jew??   I don't know about that at all..

That, Paul was a Roman citizen is not to be questioned, He himslsef testifies to this very matter, also.

Acts 22
6  And it came to pass, that, as I made my journey, and was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from heaven a great light round about me.
7  And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?
8  And I answered, Who art thou, Lord? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest.
9  And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.
10  And I said, What shall I do, Lord? And the Lord said unto me, Arise, and go into Damascus; and there it shall be told thee of all things which are appointed for thee to do.
11  And when I could not see for the glory of that light, being led by the hand of them that were with me, I came into Damascus.
12  And one Ananias, a devout man according to the law, having a good report of all the Jews which dwelt there,
13  Came unto me, and stood, and said unto me, Brother Saul, receive thy sight. And the same hour I looked up upon him.
14  And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth.
15  For thou shalt be his witness unto all men of what thou hast seen and heard.
16  And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
17  And it came to pass, that, when I was come again to Jerusalem, even while I prayed in the temple, I was in a trance;
18  And saw him saying unto me, Make haste, and get thee quickly out of Jerusalem: for they will not receive thy testimony concerning me.
19  And I said, Lord, they know that I imprisoned and beat in every synagogue them that believed on thee:
20  And when the blood of thy martyr Stephen was shed, I also was standing by, and consenting unto his death, and kept the raiment of them that slew him.
21  And he said unto me, Depart: for I will send thee far hence unto the Gentiles.
22  And they gave him audience unto this word, and then lifted up their voices, and said, Away with such a fellow from the earth: for it is not fit that he should live.
23  And as they cried out, and cast off their clothes, and threw dust into the air,
24  The chief captain commanded him to be brought into the castle, and bade that he should be examined by scourging; that he might know wherefore they cried so against him.
25  And as they bound him with thongs, Paul said unto the centurion that stood by, Is it lawful for you to scourge a man that is a Roman, and uncondemned?
26  When the centurion heard that, he went and told the chief captain, saying, Take heed what thou doest: for this man is a Roman.
27  Then the chief captain came, and said unto him, Tell me, art thou a Roman? He said, Yea.
28  And the chief captain answered, With a great sum obtained I this freedom. And Paul said, But I was free born.
29  Then straightway they departed from him which should have examined him: and the chief captain also was afraid, after he knew that he was a Roman, and because he had bound him.
30  On the morrow, because he would have known the certainty wherefore he was accused of the Jews, he loosed him from his bands, and commanded the chief priests and all their council to appear, and brought Paul down, and set him before them.


Petro

[Petro]

its called Hellenization read all about it my reference to paul as a "greek" Jew was an inference to his Hellenization

Every body has opinions, yours is just another one, which can be discarded as one used to descredit a man who gave his life for what he believed to be the truth, and,

the fact IS you do not believe the truth, and your opinion of it, doesn't change the truth one bit..


Petro

[ollie]

its called Hellenization read all about it my reference to paul as a "greek" Jew was an inference to his Hellenization

Every body has opinions, yours is just another one, which can be discarded as one used to descredit a man who gave his life for what he believed to be the truth, and,

the fact IS you do not believe the truth, and your opinion of it, doesn't change the truth one bit..


Petro

in fact petro i do believe in the truth and you opinion about who's truth is right is only as good as mine. so you take jesus and ill take G-d.

One can only come to God through Jesus Christ!

[ollie]

Greek Jew??   I don't know about that at all..

That, Paul was a Roman citizen is not to be questioned, He himslsef testifies to this very matter, also.

Acts 22
6  And it came to pass, that, as I made my journey, and was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from heaven a great light round about me.
7  And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?
8  And I answered, Who art thou, Lord? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest.
9  And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.
10  And I said, What shall I do, Lord? And the Lord said unto me, Arise, and go into Damascus; and there it shall be told thee of all things which are appointed for thee to do.
11  And when I could not see for the glory of that light, being led by the hand of them that were with me, I came into Damascus.
12  And one Ananias, a devout man according to the law, having a good report of all the Jews which dwelt there,
13  Came unto me, and stood, and said unto me, Brother Saul, receive thy sight. And the same hour I looked up upon him.
14  And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth.
15  For thou shalt be his witness unto all men of what thou hast seen and heard.
16  And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
17  And it came to pass, that, when I was come again to Jerusalem, even while I prayed in the temple, I was in a trance;
18  And saw him saying unto me, Make haste, and get thee quickly out of Jerusalem: for they will not receive thy testimony concerning me.
19  And I said, Lord, they know that I imprisoned and beat in every synagogue them that believed on thee:
20  And when the blood of thy martyr Stephen was shed, I also was standing by, and consenting unto his death, and kept the raiment of them that slew him.
21  And he said unto me, Depart: for I will send thee far hence unto the Gentiles.
22  And they gave him audience unto this word, and then lifted up their voices, and said, Away with such a fellow from the earth: for it is not fit that he should live.
23  And as they cried out, and cast off their clothes, and threw dust into the air,
24  The chief captain commanded him to be brought into the castle, and bade that he should be examined by scourging; that he might know wherefore they cried so against him.
25  And as they bound him with thongs, Paul said unto the centurion that stood by, Is it lawful for you to scourge a man that is a Roman, and uncondemned?
26  When the centurion heard that, he went and told the chief captain, saying, Take heed what thou doest: for this man is a Roman.
27  Then the chief captain came, and said unto him, Tell me, art thou a Roman? He said, Yea.
28  And the chief captain answered, With a great sum obtained I this freedom. And Paul said, But I was free born.
29  Then straightway they departed from him which should have examined him: and the chief captain also was afraid, after he knew that he was a Roman, and because he had bound him.
30  On the morrow, because he would have known the certainty wherefore he was accused of the Jews, he loosed him from his bands, and commanded the chief priests and all their council to appear, and brought Paul down, and set him before them.


Petro

its called Hellenization read all about it my reference to paul as a "greek" Jew was an inference to his Hellenization

Provide some sources and references for your statements. Otherwise the statements are just a personal opinion.

[ollie]

"its called Hellenization read all about it my reference to paul as a "greek" Jew was an inference to his Hellenization"

And the source for this information is....?

References please?