A first for America...The Koran replaces the Bible at swearing-in oath

[Soldier4Christ]

When reading this please keep in mind that Dennis Prager is a practicing Jew so this is not about supporting his own religious beliefs as he does not accept the New Testament himself as a holy book.

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A first for America...The Koran replaces the Bible at swearing-in oath

Keith Ellison, D-Minn., the first Muslim elected to the United States Congress, has announced that he will not take his oath of office on the Bible, but on the bible of Islam, the Koran.

He should not be allowed to do so -- not because of any American hostility to the Koran, but because the act undermines American civilization.

First, it is an act of hubris that perfectly exemplifies multiculturalist activism -- my culture trumps America's culture. What Ellison and his Muslim and leftist supporters are saying is that it is of no consequence what America holds as its holiest book; all that matters is what any individual holds to be his holiest book.

Forgive me, but America should not give a hoot what Keith Ellison's favorite book is. Insofar as a member of Congress taking an oath to serve America and uphold its values is concerned, America is interested in only one book, the Bible. If you are incapable of taking an oath on that book, don't serve in Congress. In your personal life, we will fight for your right to prefer any other book. We will even fight for your right to publish cartoons mocking our Bible. But, Mr. Ellison, America, not you, decides on what book its public servants take their oath.

Devotees of multiculturalism and political correctness who do not see how damaging to the fabric of American civilization it is to allow Ellison to choose his own book need only imagine a racist elected to Congress. Would they allow him to choose Hitler's "Mein Kampf," the Nazis' bible, for his oath? And if not, why not? On what grounds will those defending Ellison's right to choose his favorite book deny that same right to a racist who is elected to public office?

Of course, Ellison's defenders argue that Ellison is merely being honest; since he believes in the Koran and not in the Bible, he should be allowed, even encouraged, to put his hand on the book he believes in. But for all of American history, Jews elected to public office have taken their oath on the Bible, even though they do not believe in the New Testament, and the many secular elected officials have not believed in the Old Testament either. Yet those secular officials did not demand to take their oaths of office on, say, the collected works of Voltaire or on a volume of New York Times editorials, writings far more significant to some liberal members of Congress than the Bible. Nor has one Mormon official demanded to put his hand on the Book of Mormon. And it is hard to imagine a scientologist being allowed to take his oath of office on a copy of "Dianetics" by L. Ron Hubbard.

So why are we allowing Keith Ellison to do what no other member of Congress has ever done -- choose his own most revered book for his oath?

The answer is obvious -- Ellison is a Muslim. And whoever decides these matters, not to mention virtually every editorial page in America, is not going to offend a Muslim. In fact, many of these people argue it will be a good thing because Muslims around the world will see what an open society America is and how much Americans honor Muslims and the Koran.

This argument appeals to all those who believe that one of the greatest goals of America is to be loved by the world, and especially by Muslims because then fewer Muslims will hate us (and therefore fewer will bomb us).

But these naive people do not appreciate that America will not change the attitude of a single American-hating Muslim by allowing Ellison to substitute the Koran for the Bible. In fact, the opposite is more likely: Ellison's doing so will embolden Islamic extremists and make new ones, as Islamists, rightly or wrongly, see the first sign of the realization of their greatest goal -- the Islamicization of America.

When all elected officials take their oaths of office with their hands on the very same book, they all affirm that some unifying value system underlies American civilization. If Keith Ellison is allowed to change that, he will be doing more damage to the unity of America and to the value system that has formed this country than the terrorists of 9-11. It is hard to believe that this is the legacy most Muslim Americans want to bequeath to America. But if it is, it is not only Europe that is in trouble.

[airIam2worship]

  WHAT??

I hate to see what will be next.

Brothers, when I think about how many people have perjured themselves after swearing on God's Word. It makes me sick. But at least I get comfort knowing Who the Real Judge is and that His ways are always just.

[Soldier4Christ]

Amen!

[nChrist]

I would bluntly say one thing:  This is America - not Iran - and NO exceptions should be made or allowed!

[Soldier4Christ]

CAIR targets Dennis Prager for Quran comments 
Radio host slammed Muslim congressman for plan to take oath on Islamic book

A Muslim-American advocacy group has called on radio talk show host Dennis Prager to be removed from the governing board of the federally funded U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum after Prager last week blasted a representative-elect for planning to use the Koran at his swearing-in next month.

Prager, who is Jewish, slammed Minnesota Democrat Keith Ellison, the first Muslim to be elected to the U.S. Congress, after Ellison announced he plans to have his oath of office photo taken with the Koran instead of the Christian Bible, which is traditional.

"Insofar as a member of Congress taking an oath to serve America and uphold its values is concerned, America is interested in only one book, the Bible," he wrote in a column titled, "America, Not Keith Ellison, Decides What Book a Congressman Takes His Oath On."

"If you are incapable of taking an oath on that book, don't serve in Congress," Prager wrote, adding that using the Koran "undermines American civilization."

The Washington, D.C.-based Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) issued a statement Monday calling for Prager's ouster from the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Council, the museum's advisory council.

"No one who holds such bigoted, intolerant and divisive views should be in a policy-making position at a taxpayer-funded institution that seeks to educate Americans about the destructive impact hatred has had, and continues to have, on every society," CAIR wrote in its letter to the museum council's president, Fred Zeidman.

"As a presidential appointee, Prager's continued presence on the council would send a negative message to Muslims worldwide about America's commitment to religious tolerance," CAIR wrote.

Prager was not immediately available for comment. Museum spokesman Andrew Hollinger told FOXNews.com that he had not yet spoken with Zeidman and could not comment on the letter.

Prager is one of 52 council members, not including 10 House and Senate members and five ex-officio members. Hollinger said each council member is appointed by the White House to serve on the museum's governing board. The federal government pays for about 60 percent of the museum's annual budget.

Last week, the Anti-Defamation League, a Jewish advocacy group, called Prager's opinions "flat-out wrong," as well as "intolerant, misinformed and downright un-American."

"If Prager were merely a blogger and radio talk-show host trying to be relevant and provocative, these views might not merit a response. But as a newly appointed member of the United States Holocaust Memorial Council, Prager and his views must be held to a higher standard," the group said.

Ellison's chief of staff, Kari Moe, said Friday "the criticism is being flamed by the politics of division that were rejected in the '06 election cycle."

She also said the tradition of using the Bible relates to the photo-op ceremony for individual lawmakers that follows the official swearing-in of all members of Congress together on the House floor. At the official oath of office, newly elected members raise their right hands.

After that explanation, Prager said the ceremonial oath is no less significant than the actual swearing-in.

"Oh, that's the whole point. It's exactly because it's ceremonial that it matters to me," he said. "Ceremonies matter. Ceremonies are exceedingly important. That is the way a society states what is most significant to it."

Prager also said that he would like to see Jews swear their oaths of office on the Christian Bible — the Jewish Bible does not include the New Testament that is central to Christian beliefs.

Prager said he doesn't think Ellison should serve if he does not take the oath on the Bible but he doesn't prefer legislative action be taken to prevent him from serving.

Speaking last week with FOX News, Prager said his feelings have nothing to do with Ellison's being a Muslim.

"It has to do with the fact that it's not the Bible," he said. "If a Mormon-American decided to substitute the Book of Mormon for the Bible, I would have the same problem. If a scientologist wanted L. Ron Hubbard's 'Dyanetics' to be the book, I would have a problem," Prager said.

Prager said the Bible is the most important book in American history and that's why it should be used.

"George Washington began this movement. He was the one to bring a Bible and swear on it. Every president except one, Teddy Roosevelt, because it was right after the assassination of James McKinley and they didn't have time for a Bible. And every president has done this," Prager said, adding that congressional members have followed the tradition.

[Soldier4Christ]

The Washington, D.C.-based Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) issued a statement Monday calling for Prager's ouster from the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Council, the museum's advisory council.

Here's a counter response. I'm calling for the removal of the terrorist group CAIR and anyone associated to them from the U.S. completely.

[nChrist]

Here's a counter response. I'm calling for the removal of the terrorist group CAIR and anyone associated to them from the U.S. completely.

Pastor Roger,

CAIR has been pretty diligent and consistent in showing their direct and indirect connections to terrorists, so I would agree with you completely. Their allegiance is for our destruction, so they don't belong here - simple as that.

[Soldier4Christ]

Dennis Prager is Jewish so CAIR automatically dislikes him. They don't want him to be a part of the museum because he would tell the truth there as he has done in his articles. Even though he is Jewish he accepts the fact that the U.S. was founded on Christian principles. He does not want to change that as he realizes that he can worship as he wants without fear based on those principles. He also realizes that if islam gets their way that no one in the U.S. or anywhere else in this world will be able to do so.

It is people like this that CAIR is so diligently trying to silence and destroy. I for one appreciate what Dennis Prager is trying to do for the U.S.

[nChrist]

Pastor Roger,

I grew up with quite a few Jewish friends. Some believe just as strongly as we do in JESUS CHRIST, and some are still waiting for the Messiah. Those friends I have who maintain Jewish Orthodoxy were very open in discussions about JESUS CHRIST, and I honestly believe that many of them are close to accepting JESUS CHRIST as Lord and Saviour. In fact, I know there is a growing number of Jewish Christians around the world, even in Israel.

Most mature Christians know about GOD'S Promises to Israel that will all be perfectly fulfilled at HIS appointed time. Mature Christians should also know that all who go against Israel will be cursed, and all who bless Israel will be blessed in the ages to come. Just bluntly, GOD will restore Israel exactly as HE promised, and any power that tries to stop HIM will be trampled under foot. The numbers and weapons won't make any difference because GOD HIMSELF will be fighting on the side of Israel. Those who haven't learned to fear and respect ALMIGHTY GOD will receive a very short and extremely harsh education.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Titus 2:11-14 NASB  For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men, instructing us to deny ungodliness and worldly desires and to live sensibly, righteously and godly in the present age, looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus, who gave Himself for us to redeem us from every lawless deed, and to purify for Himself a people for His own possession, zealous for good deeds.

[Soldier4Christ]

Amen! That is for sure.

[john909]

I have been forever opposed to swearing on the Bible. I disagree with it for any number of reasons.

What bothers me more than the koran here is that a muslim was elected. That should bother anyone in here far more.

Before you get started and tell I'm bigoted, I'm not. I just don't want to see our country be dismantled in terms of what Christians are allowed to do, say, etc, while at the same time, pushing the agendas of false gods.

I've often thought about what I would do if this country ever devolved into something really bad. Probably leave.

Thank God the largest immigrant population is XXXXX. They are XXXXXX, and will help keep the country largely Christian. Too many muslims means more people have the possibilty of becoming elected muslim officials, and this cannot be allowed to happen. muslims are inherently dangerous to Christians, they hate our faith and wish to diminish it.

[Soldier4Christ]

Before you start making blanket statements where people are concerned you need to look around. It is not bigoted when a person says that islam is a danger to people, not just Christians but all people that refuse to convert into their beliefs. The majority of islam wants to control the world and place the entire world under sharia law. This is just a plain fact, nothing bigoted about it. The very few islamists that do not fit into that ideology are shunned and silenced by the others. Quite often those few have a fatwa declared against them.

And again, a blanket statement ....  "hispanics are Catholic". This is not necessarily true. We have a person on this forum that is Hispanic and she is definitely not Catholic. I know of many people of Hispanic decent that are not Catholic. Making blanket statements such as that does give people the idea that you are bigoted.