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« on: September 13, 2006, 11:41:21 PM »

Report: Bin Laden preps more attacks inside U.S.
Explosives, nuclear materials said smuggled in via Mexican border over past 2 years

TERRORISM: 'AL-QAEDA'S MR. NUCLEAR TO HEAD FRESH ATTACK ON U.S.'

Osama bin Laden is planning to carry out new, more destructive attacks inside the United States, and there is someone working on this terror plot currently in the US, according to Hamid Mir, the famed Pakistani journalist who obtained the only post-9/11 interviews with Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri. In an interview quoted on the website of the al-Arabiya television network, Mir spoke about his last trip to Afghanistan and his meeting with al-Qaeda members and Taliban leaders.

In his interview with Al.Arabiya.net, Mir said that the al-Qaeda and Taliban fighters referred to attacks targeting the US-led coalition forces during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan which begins on 24 September, and that the al-Qaeda leader, Osama bin Laden was in "good" health during a meeting he had recently with the Taliban leader, Mullah Mohammed Omar.

Mir also said that bin Laden has assigned a man named gotcha98 Al-Shukri Juma to carry out a new attack within the US which is intended to be larger than the 11 September, 2001 attacks. According to Mir, gotcha98 Jumaa has smuggled explosives and nuclear materials into the US through the Mexican border over the last two years and is hiding somewhere in America where the FBI has not been able to locate him.

The Pakistani journalist also gave a brief background on gotcha98 Jumaa. Born in Saudi Arabia, he moved to the US where he met a group of a Al-Qaeda members in the Al-Farouq mosque in New York in 2000. He then traveled to an Arab state and from there to Pakistan then Afghanistan. He left there two years ago and since then has smuggled nuclear material from Mexico to the US. Jumaa has earned the nickname "Al-Qaeda nuclear whizz" and is tagged to play the same role in a future attack as Mohammed Atta did in the 9/11 attacks.


In March 2003 the FBI announced that it was seeking a link between gotcha98 and others accused of terroris, saying gotcha98 Jumaa "or maybe one of his several nicknames" had appeared in intelligence information gathered after the arrest of Khalid Sheik Mohammad.

Western media had reported in earlier times that gotcha98 Jumaa was a Saudi pilot, but the Saudi Ministry of Interior security spokesman lieutanent Mansour Al-Turki said in a statement to Al-Watan newspaper two months ago that gotcha98 Jumaa is not a Saudi citizen, he was living in the kingdom until he was eleven years old and left along with his parents, who are not Saudis, twenty years ago.

gotcha98 Al-Shukri's name has been mentioned in many Western media reports claiming that Al-Qaeda has acquired nuclear technology. The American writer, Paul Williams, in his book " The Al-Qaeda Connection: International Terrorism, Organized Crime, and the Coming Apocalypse", says he was among a number of Al-Qaeda members trained for the nuclear technology.

On another issue, Hamid Mir spoke to Alarabiya.net of his last trip to Afghanistan and his meeting with a leader of Taliban named "Khaibar" in Zabul who claimed that 300 Taliban suicide bombers had managed to sneak into Kabul and Jalalabad to carry out attacks against coalition troops during Ramadan.

Mir alleges that there was a meeting between Bin Laden and Mullah Omar several few weeks ago in the mountain area of Zabul where they planned more attacks, "I received this piece of information from one of the Taliban leaders who attended the meeting himself and I met him recently in Afghanistan" Mir said. "He told me that this was the second meeting between the two men since last year and that Bin Laden's health seemed good while he was eating with Mullah Mohammad Omar.

The Pakistani journalist expressed his surprise of the changing situation in Afghanistan; saying that the Taliban had come back to rule some areas and spread their special courts, their special administrations, nothing that even some police officials follow their orders.

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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2006, 07:08:02 AM »

It's time for America to wake up and start praying for our Country. Right after 911 chruches were packed for about 3 weeks, then the attendence slowly started whittleing. It's amazing how many more islamics and muslims go to their place of worship than Christians do.

 We serve the Only True Living God, why then does America need a 911 to remind us of that.

Brothers and Sisters, it is our responsibility to pray for our country, for our armed forces, for our President, and our policemen. It's our duty to pray for our country and for the peace of Jerusalem.

We know all that will happen, but there are many more souls to be won for our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2006, 10:02:09 AM »

yes, unfortunately the pews overflow in times of trouble and there will be a time of GREAT trouble and it will be too late Sad


Also with this news of another threat... there are those "End times" people who have pondered why the USA is not mentioned in the "last days" etc..... so could this be why? That we will be so devastated that we will not be able to help Israel?
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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2006, 10:24:47 AM »

Tina, I believe that if you really study Bible prophecy you may be able to find America involved in prophecy. The United States has always allied with Israel.

I think of all the things that are about to happen and I have to pray for the lost souls who still don't know Jesus, not just pray but we have to witness to them and let them know.

yes, unfortunately the pews overflow in times of trouble and there will be a time of GREAT trouble and it will be too late Sad


If only they knew the times of trouble we are in right now, they would be invading the Kingdom of Heaven with their prayers right now.


Also with this news of another threat... there are those "End times" people who have pondered why the USA is not mentioned in the "last days" etc..... so could this be why? That we will be so devastated that we will not be able to help Israel?

God will be the defender of Israel, He is their banner, He is their protector

Isa 11:10 ¶ "And in that day there shall be a Root of Jesse, Who shall stand as a banner to the people; For the Gentiles shall seek Him, And His resting place shall be glorious."

Isa 11:11 It shall come to pass in that day That the Lord shall set His hand again the second time To recover the remnant of His people who are left, From Assyria and Egypt, From Pathros and Cush, From Elam and Shinar, From Hamath and the islands of the sea.

Isa 11:12 He will set up a banner for the nations, And will assemble the outcasts of Israel, And gather together the dispersed of Judah From the four corners of the earth

When I read this passage and I think of the word banner, it is also flag and I think of the flag of Israel, with the star of David right in the center of it , then I can't help but think even Israel's flag points to Jesus.
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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2006, 11:02:48 AM »

If America is included in the Bible it is done so in a way that is very obscure. Looking at the situation, The world could not successfully attack Israel as long as the U.S. is still a powerful nation. I do believe that there will have to be a means in which the U.S. is taken out of the picture as an advocate for Israel, either totally devastated to the point of being unable to respond in support or to turn against them along with the rest of the world.

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« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2006, 01:03:20 PM »

I can't find America in the Scriptures, any help would be much appreciated.
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« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2006, 01:23:44 PM »

That's because it isn't. Those that say it is there take scriptures that are very vague to them and twist the scripture into being America. When a thorough study is done of those scriptures it is found that other nations are being talked about other than America.

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« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2006, 11:59:59 PM »

Hello Covenant,

First, welcome back. I see that you were here in 2003.

I must agree with Pastor Roger and say that I also don't see America in Bible prophecy for the end of this Age of Grace events. At present, I know in my heart that America would defend Israel and fight on the side of Israel if it was needed. Since America doesn't appear to be mentioned in this Bible prophecy, I would guess that America is nuked and unable to help Israel. I simply don't know what else would explain this.

In our present state where politicians seem to defeat nearly all reasonable defenses of America, the Three Stooges could nuke America and never be discovered. SO, I surmise that we have already been defeated from within by our own politicians and folks like the ACLU. This is obviously just a guess, but I think it's a reasonable assumption for all of the circumstances.

I also agree completely with airIam2Worship that GOD HIMSELF will fight on the side of Israel, and I think that Bible Prophecy makes this an iron-clad fact. JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF will defeat all evil in this world and claim an earthly Throne in Jerusalem for 1,000 years. HE is already the KING of KINGS of the Heavenly Kingdom, but HE is also the anointed  KING of Israel and will definitely claim the Throne of David in Jerusalem at HIS appointed time.

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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2006, 05:52:48 PM »

Thanks, I have came to the conclusion before that America is not specifically mentioned in the end times scenario but I'm always willing to see if there is something I may have missed.
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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2006, 11:34:18 PM »


Also with this news of another threat... there are those "End times" people who have pondered why the USA is not mentioned in the "last days" etc..... so could this be why? That we will be so devastated that we will not be able to help Israel?

If America is not specifically referred to in Bible prophecy, what are the options for its future? If the Lord does not return for some time, the present superpower status of the United States could certainly fade, since it has been little more than a century that America has been a powerful presence on the world stage. However, if you believe, as most pre-trib scholars do, that the signs are ripe for the soon return of Jesus, then the question of America's fate in the near future is a relevant one. Let's take a look at the four options suggested by Mark Hitchcock.

First off; "America will still be a powerful nation in the last days, but the Lord simply chose not to mention her specifically."

This is possible, but it seems unlikely. In Scripture, the dominant political and military power in the end times is centered in the Mediterranean and in Europe. The scriptural silence concerning America seems to indicate that by the time the tribulation arrives, America will no longer be a major influence in the world.

Since America is the major player in the world today in every arena, it is  suggested three additional options that help address how this demise could occur.

Second; "America is not mentioned specifically in Scripture because she will be destroyed by other nations. She will suffer a fall from the outside."

Third; "America is not mentioned in Bible prophecy because she will have lost her influence as a result of moral and spiritual deterioration. She will suffer a fall from the inside."

Forth; "America will be brought to her knees by the Rapture. The Rapture is key" I feel this provides three main reasons why this is the best option:


First, America is the number one ally and defender of Israel. … Without the support of the United States, Israel would be incinerated in a matter of days by her hostile Arab neighbors. Least this, is what I believe.

But Israel is pictured in Scripture as a thriving nation in the end times. Therefore, unless the world scene changes dramatically, I believe that America will remain strong as a nation until the beginning of the end times. Until the Rapture, the United States will continue to serve as Israel's chief ally.

Second, we know from Scripture that after the Rapture, the Antichrist will come to Israel's side and make a seven-year treaty with her Daniel 9:27. But where is America in that scenario? Why aren't we around as Israel's chief ally and as the major world power Daniel 2:44-45; 7:23-25? This strong presence of Europe indicates to me that something will have happened to America that shifts world power back to Europe.

Third, if America remains strong up to the time of the Rapture but is then replaced by Europe as the world's superpower, what does this tell us?

I believe it tells us that America will be brought to her knees by the Rapture. The Rapture is key. The Rapture will change everything.

Look at the statistical evidence of the religiosity of America compared to other nations to demonstrate that the sudden withdrawal of true believers; even if they represent only a portion of those calling themselves "born again" would be staggering. Millions of people will suddenly be gone, many of them in key positions in the religious, economic and political spheres. Europe, with little religious influence, will barely be effected by the Rapture. The resulting chaos will be enormous.

In a chapter entitled "America in the Last Days," Hitchcock describes what a post-Rapture America will look like. "Simply stated, the main view is that in the end times, America will be absorbed into Antichrist's reunited Roman Empire. The United States will become a part of the end-time confederacy of Western nations."

In light of the flag waving and renditions of "God Bless America" following September 11, which persist even two years after he wrote his book. Hitchcock suggests in a chapter entitled "God Bless America!" that under the Rapture option, God can continue to bless America right up to the Rapture. There are three keys to this: blessing the Jewish people, faithfully sharing the Good News of salvation with a needy world, and by being just, or practicing righteousness in our own lives and promoting righteousness in the society at large[/i].

The question of America's future in light of prophecy requires careful study-and perspective. An understanding of history will show that ours is not the only age when the Lord's return seemed imminent. The signs, as Mr. Mark Hitchcock suggest, do seem clearer today than ever before. That is why it is important to study prophecy, while at the same time steadfastly observing the two great commands Christ left his disciples, the Great Commandment Love God and others and the Great Commission spreading the gospel and make disciples. Along with blessing the Jewish people, these are essentially points in seeking God's continued blessing on America.

Resting in the Lord's arms.
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« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2006, 12:29:10 AM »

AMEN DREAMWEAVER!

Brother, you know that I have thought about this many times and studied Bible Prophecy for many years. I think that the scenario presented is quite reasonable. I do strongly believe that the Rapture will happen before the Tribulation Period, but I don't argue with Brothers and Sisters in Christ who have different opinions. There obviously would be drastic changes in America and any other country if all of the Christians were suddenly removed by the Rapture. The impact for some countries would be less than others. I do believe that the impact for America would be devastating. Our society is suffering greatly from moral decline, but that doesn't mean that Christians here have given up the fight.

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« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2006, 09:43:29 PM »

Tina, I believe that if you really study Bible prophecy you may be able to find America involved in prophecy. The United States has always allied with Israel.

I think of all the things that are about to happen and I have to pray for the lost souls who still don't know Jesus, not just pray but we have to witness to them and let them know.

If only they knew the times of trouble we are in right now, they would be invading the Kingdom of Heaven with their prayers right now.

God will be the defender of Israel, He is their banner, He is their protector

Isa 11:10 ¶ "And in that day there shall be a Root of Jesse, Who shall stand as a banner to the people; For the Gentiles shall seek Him, And His resting place shall be glorious."

Isa 11:11 It shall come to pass in that day That the Lord shall set His hand again the second time To recover the remnant of His people who are left, From Assyria and Egypt, From Pathros and Cush, From Elam and Shinar, From Hamath and the islands of the sea.

Isa 11:12 He will set up a banner for the nations, And will assemble the outcasts of Israel, And gather together the dispersed of Judah From the four corners of the earth

When I read this passage and I think of the word banner, it is also flag and I think of the flag of Israel, with the star of David right in the center of it , then I can't help but think even Israel's flag points to Jesus.
"then I can't help but think even Israel's flag points to Jesus."


 Israel and the law pointed to Jesus the Christ.  Israel today deny's Jesus is the Christ. They are liars according to John as revealed to him by the Holy Spirit. He is antiChrist that denys the Father and the Son.

 1 John 2:22.  "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
 23.  Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [but] he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also."




They and nothing about them points to the Christ today except their being antiChrist.

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« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2006, 10:47:47 PM »

"then I can't help but think even Israel's flag points to Jesus."


 Israel and the law pointed to Jesus the Christ.  Israel today deny's Jesus is the Christ. They are liars according to John as revealed to him by the Holy Spirit. He is antiChrist that denys the Father and the Son.

 1 John 2:22.  "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
 23.  Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [but] he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also."




They and nothing about them points to the Christ today except their being antiChrist.

ollie

Hello Brother Ollie,

This would be true today for most of Israel, but we must remember that GOD isn't nearly finished with HIS dealings with Israel. Some of Israel's most harsh punishment from GOD is yet to come, but so are some Promises from GOD that will restore Israel at GOD'S appointed time. We must also remember that JESUS CHRIST Himself is the anointed King of Israel, and HE will most definitely claim HIS earthly Throne in Jerusalem for 1,000 years. This will be right after the Tribulation Period and the Second Coming of Christ. Daniel names the second half of the Tribulation Period as the "time of Jacob's trouble", and it will definitely be a horrible time for the Nation of Israel. BUT, the rest of the story involves Promises of GOD to Israel and Bible Prophecy that will be fulfilled perfectly at GOD'S appointed time. A portion of these promises involve JESUS CHRIST claiming the Throne of David in Jerusalem for 1,000 years and Israel being restored.

Much of the remaining truth to be fulfilled involves the perfect faithfulness of GOD through countless generations and HIM always keeping HIS Promises.


Love In Christ,
Tom

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