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« on: September 01, 2003, 02:46:10 PM »

Since I've been born again, I began realizing how many people who go to church are not saved and think they are. The teachings of certain churches have done much to perpetuate this deception. The notion that we are saved when we're baptized is not only erroneous but purposely deceptive.

I was baptized as an infant but hadn't a clue that Jesus was real until the Holy Spirit entered me in my late 30's. Since then, I've found out that most of the people I've talked to who have been baptized as infants don't KNOW Jesus Christ. They don't even know what born again means. They are taught that they receive the Holy Spirit at baptism. But how can they reject His words and then be saved again? I was baptized and rejected His words. That's because I didn't have the Holy Spirit in me to interpret His words. If I had received the Holy Spirit at baptism then how can i reject it and then be saved later if it's an unforgivable sin? How did i all of a sudden know he was real? Just a guess? The bible is very clear about baptism with water and baptism with the Holy Spirit being 2 entirely different entities. What's sad is that many people are being denied the opportunity to seek out salvation because they think they are already saved.
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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2003, 12:59:23 PM »

Amen to that Brother!  It wasnt till I had an REAL experience with the Holy Spirit and Jesus was I able to truly begin to live a holy life and begin to put the world behind me.

That was 5 years ago, before that time for 20 years I did nothing for Christ, since then I have become a Certified Minister, gone on numerous missions trips, am a full time Childrens Pastor, have entered a Political Studies program with the intent on bringing more God to politics...

The last thing is where alot of my energy for Christ is pouring into right now!  PLEASE join me at www.patriotreview.com and join in the discussion OR just learn some stuff!  I am truly bleeding inside to get us (The Church) more aware of what we can do to stop the Godless movement of our country (that being the United States).

Please just take a look at it if you will, It has been opened for a week and have already got a number of members, but we need more communication and exchange of ideas.  AND SUGGESTIONS!


Todd Vance.

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