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« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2004, 12:48:18 PM »


 Hummm i dont see where you got this info from?

Satan became Jealous of Adam because Adam instead of satan will be taking the place of worshipping God. Adam was the wedge between Satan and God was the fact satan became Jealous and then satan tried to overthrow God to change His Kingdom around.

There is no wager or bet with life and death everything that God does is Good to the benefit of mankind for salvation.

The nail prints on HIs hands and feet is not to prevent another lucifer. Satan was defeated in Genesis 3:15 thats a future prophecy before the crucifixion of the Messiah defeating the wiles of satans plan.

The nail prints on His hands and feet are revealing His love for us.

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« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2004, 09:37:44 PM »


 Hummm i dont see where you got this info from?

Satan became Jealous of Adam because Adam instead of satan will be taking the place of worshipping God. Adam was the wedge between Satan and God was the fact satan became Jealous and then satan tried to overthrow God to change His Kingdom around.

There is no wager or bet with life and death everything that God does is Good to the benefit of mankind for salvation.

The nail prints on HIs hands and feet is not to prevent another lucifer. Satan was defeated in Genesis 3:15 thats a future prophecy before the crucifixion of the Messiah defeating the wiles of satans plan.

The nail prints on His hands and feet are revealing His love for us.

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Thank you, Michael.  It is all very, very interesting.

I actually was answering a slightyl different question from yours - yours is probably a more technical one, with just 'what' happened.

Mine was probably more 'why' did it happen.

It is gleaned time, years of reading scripture, and just 'connecting the dots', as they say, by what seems to be simply implied, by scripture, according to our situation here, on earth.

The main reason I say a bet, or a wager, is because of the
specified eternity of Jesus' nail prints.

As far as I can remember, that is the only 'hold-over' from our world, to the this new, heavenly one - the only, actual, physical, material 'evidence' of what happened, way back then.

Therefore, such a fact, begs the question:  Why?

You answered it, B/c of His love for us.

But is that the total picture?  

Well, yes, in a way.  But there's still the Enemy to account for - also a Creature of God.

Job 1 reminds us of Satan's intent, towards man, and by implication then, towards God.  Satan insults Job, and God, to God's face.

That insult is what God must reconcile - but He has to do it 'righteously' - not vengefully, or bitterly, or resentfully - lest Satan WIN THE BATTLE(b/c it would prove Satan right - that God IS unloving).

But God wins, by instead doing it 'through' love, not in spite of it.

As you say, the nail wounds then demonstrate that love.

But perhaps it is just a duplicity, then.  B/c also can Satan never, ever again accuse God.

And that's what the implied 'wager' was all about.  Satan made a challenge, b/c he never counted on God being able to love SO MUCH, that he'd literally offer Himself, His Son, on the altar.

Satan thought he'd won the bet - with Judas Iscariot.

He didn't know that Jesus righteous blood would absolve us - w/o bitterness, w/o resentment - just a mellow lamb to the slaughter.

So there's an implied 'bet' or wager, because of the eternal nail prints.  The provide the evidence that the wager was lost.

I say all of this, because of the major political structures alive and in place in just he last two hundred years.

Capitalism may have its vices - mainly greed.

But the alternative - communism, is based simply on Job 1.  It comes before God, and accuses anyone who is productive - in that case it was Job.  And chapter one there literally lists just how productive Job was.

Communism literally hates that.  It hates you.  It hates me.  For simply being able to "produce' things.  Communism is a jealous schoolmaster, and its twin, socialism, is alive an well globally- the "accuser of the brethren".

So, that's why the nail prints are so much an "relief" to all of those, and us, who suffer under worldly governments, for simply being "productive".

The nail prints laugh at the jealousy.  They laugh at the accusations.

Because no longer will anyone ever again be able to accuse someone for being simply productive - in their garden, in a family, on the farm, etc.

And beleive, there are right now, always, plenty of folk around who fashion their lives around what their neighbor is or is not doing.  It's all a very unhappy reality.

But we have the nail prints.

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« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2004, 10:36:59 PM »


 Oh ok hummm i never really thought about it in your view before. I like it!

I apologize if i seemed cranky on my last post. I have been in a funky mood lately.

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« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2004, 06:11:03 PM »

Who cares what happened before Creation? It has no bearing on my life! (I'm joking) Grin
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