Jesus is Lord

[Petro]

ebia,

..........the Orthodox churches do see the Church as the body of Christ on earth.

Yea..........they see the body of Christ as the Orthodox church..

That is a;

Good one...he he..


Petro

[ollie]

eh?

The church is the Lord's body of which He is the head. Why does the Orthodox church call itself, (denominate), "the Orthodox church?" Why not Christ's?

The same reason most other churches don't include the word Christ in their title, I would imagine - they take it as implicit in the word Church.

Yes, many have of their own accord denominated themselves.
What is that reason?  

I'm really at a loss to see what your problem is here; the Orthodox churches do see the Church as the body of Christ on earth.

No problem. Just wondering why people that claim to be of God would identify themselves with something other than God.

[ebia]

ebia,

..........the Orthodox churches do see the Church as the body of Christ on earth.

Yea..........they see the body of Christ as the Orthodox church..

That is a;

Good one...he he..


Petro

Yes, well, I don't agree with them on that one, but that wasn't the point under discussion.

[ebia]

Yes, many have of their own accord denominated themselves.
What is that reason?  

We seem to be talking past each other - what do you mean by denominated?

No problem. Just wondering why people that claim to be of God would identify themselves with something other than God.

They don't.   The Church is is of God - the body of Christ on Earth.

Most people don't expect the title to contain the whole story.

[ollie]

Yes, many have of their own accord denominated themselves.
What is that reason?  

We seem to be talking past each other - what do you mean by denominated?

People describing themselves and calling themselves names of their choosing rather than God's.

No problem. Just wondering why people that claim to be of God would identify themselves with something other than God.

They don't.   The Church is is of God - the body of Christ on Earth.

Many church names do not reveal this and give glory to whom it belongs..

Most people don't expect the title to contain the whole story.

It should not be up to people but what glorifies God through His word.
It tells whether the church is of God and His ways or of man and their ways or a pick and choose mix of both.

[ollie]

Got off the topic. Sorry, here are some verses declaring Jesus is Christ,


   1 John 2:22.  Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
 23.  Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: but he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
 24.  Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
 25.  And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.

[ebia]

Yes, many have of their own accord denominated themselves.
What is that reason?  

We seem to be talking past each other - what do you mean by denominated?

People describing themselves and calling themselves names of their choosing rather than God's.

Where did God tell us what label to use for His Church?  The Church seems quite sufficient - where is the instruction to call it anything more than that.  

[ollie]

Yes, many have of their own accord denominated themselves.
What is that reason?  

We seem to be talking past each other - what do you mean by denominated?

People describing themselves and calling themselves names of their choosing rather than God's.

Where did God tell us what label to use for His Church?  The Church seems quite sufficient - where is the instruction to call it anything more than that.  

Christ's church is not a label. It shows possession and to whom it is of.

 God does not describe it as "the church"

The Holy Spirit of God through the writers of the Bible describes it as Christ's.

Belongs to God ---- 1 Timothy 3:15
The body of Christ ---- Ephesians 1:23; Colossians 1:24
Christ, the foundation-stone of ---- 1 Corinthians 3:11; Ephesians 2:20; 1 Peter 2:4,5
Christ, the head of ---- Ephesians 1:22; 5:23
Loved by Christ ---- Song of Solomon 7:10; Ephesians 5:25
Purchased by the blood of Christ ---- Acts 20:28; Ephesians 5:25; Hebrews 9:12
Sanctified and cleansed by Christ ---- 1 Corinthians 6:11; Ephesians 5:26,27
Subject to Christ ---- Romans 7:4; Ephesians 5:24
The object of the grace of God ---- Isaiah 27:3; 2 Corinthians 8:1
Displays the wisdom of God ---- Ephesians 3:10
Shows forth the praises of God ---- Isaiah 60:6
God defends ---- Psalms 89:18; Isaiah 4:5; 49:25; Matthew 16:18
God provides ministers for ---- Jeremiah 3:15; Ephesians 4:11,12
Glory to be ascribed to God by ---- Ephesians 3:21
Elect ---- 1 Peter 5:13
Glorious ---- Psalms 45:13; Ephesians 5:27
Clothed in righteousness ---- Revelation 19:8
Believers continually added to, by the Lord ---- Acts 2:27; 5:14; 11:24
Unity of ---- Romans 12:5; 1 Corinthians 10:17; 12:12; Galatians 3:28
Saints baptized into, by one Spirit ---- 1 Corinthians 12:13
Ministers commanded to feed ---- Acts 20:28
Is edified by the word ---- 1 Corinthians 14:4,13; Ephesians 4:15,16
The wicked persecute ---- Acts 8:1-3; 1 Thessalonians 2:14,15
Not to be despised ---- 1 Corinthians 11:22
Defiling of, will be punished ---- 1 Corinthians 3:17
Extent of, predicted ---- Isaiah 2:2; Ezekiel 17:22-24; Daniel 2:34,35; Habakkuk 2:14

[ollie]

Philippians 2:10.  That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
 11.  And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

[ebia]

You just don't get it do you.

Of course the Church is Christ's.   There is no other sort of Church.  To insist of mentioning the fact everytime we refer to the Church, then, is superflous.

It shows possession and to whom it is of.

It isn't necessary to indicate the ownership of something every time you refer to it.  Especially when there is and can be only one of "it" to refer to.

Talk about picking a fight when there is nothing to fight about.

[Brother Love]

Belongs to God ---- 1 Timothy 3:15
The body of Christ ---- Ephesians 1:23; Colossians 1:24
Christ, the foundation-stone of ---- 1 Corinthians 3:11; Ephesians 2:20;
Christ, the head of ---- Ephesians 1:22; 5:23
Loved by Christ ----  Ephesians 5:25
Purchased by the blood of Christ ---- Acts 20:28; Ephesians 5:25; Hebrews 9:12
Sanctified and cleansed by Christ ---- 1 Corinthians 6:11; Ephesians 5:26,27
Subject to Christ ---- Romans 7:4; Ephesians 5:24
The object of the grace of God ---- Corinthians 8:1
Displays the wisdom of God ---- Ephesians 3:10
God provides ministers for ----  Ephesians 4:11,12
Glory to be ascribed to God by ---- Ephesians 3:21

Glorious ---- Ephesians 5:27
Believers continually added to, by the Lord ---- Acts 11:24
Unity of ---- Romans 12:5; 1 Corinthians 10:17; 12:12; Galatians 3:28
Saints baptized into, by one Spirit ---- 1 Corinthians 12:13 with Ephesians 4:5 (NOT WATER)
Ministers commanded to feed ---- Acts 20:28
Is edified by the word ---- 1 Corinthians 14:4,13; Ephesians 4:15,16
The wicked persecute ---- Acts 8:1-3; 1 Thessalonians 2:14,15
Not to be despised ---- 1 Corinthians 11:22
Defiling of, will be punished ---- 1 Corinthians 3:17


My Church

Brother Love

[ollie]

You just don't get it do you.

Of course the Church is Christ's.   There is no other sort of Church.  To insist of mentioning the fact everytime we refer to the Church, then, is superflous.

It shows possession and to whom it is of.

It isn't necessary to indicate the ownership of something every time you refer to it.  Especially when there is and can be only one of "it" to refer to.

Talk about picking a fight when there is nothing to fight about.

Then stop fighting! Just write some thoughts on the topic.

Thanks for the discussion, .