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« on: October 28, 2004, 11:42:44 PM »

For those of you that might be considering getting a study Bible for your teens I would like to point out the NIV Teen Study Bible published by Zondervan.

It is NOT a Godly book. I am sure some of you are saying, "Here we go again with the KJV versus the NIV debate."  Well, that is not what this is about. I am not talking about the interpretation of this version but the pages that are in placed in between.

Please read this link for more very important information.

http://www.av1611.org/kjv/nivteen.html

I don't think any good Christian parent wants their teen reading this. At least I don't.
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« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2004, 02:01:53 AM »

The person who wrote the page made a very very big mistake.

The alternate definitions are not definitions for a christian teen...they are definitions that the normal 'teen' has come up with! The alternate definition propose what 'teens' think about an issue not what we as Christians should think.

in the zondervan teen study bible 1998...Witnessing: alternate definition - telling your friends about God and sometimes having them laugh at you.

The purpose of the alternate definition is to show what the normal average teen thinks...it does not promote or encourage that thought...on the contrary it shows why that is wrong.


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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2004, 05:47:59 AM »

For those of you that might be considering getting a study Bible for your teens I would like to point out the NIV Teen Study Bible published by Zondervan.

It is NOT a Godly book. I am sure some of you are saying, "Here we go again with the KJV versus the NIV debate."  Well, that is not what this is about. I am not talking about the interpretation of this version but the pages that are in placed in between.

Please read this link for more very important information.

http://www.av1611.org/kjv/nivteen.html

I don't think any good Christian parent wants their teen reading this. At least I don't.

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« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2004, 10:45:57 AM »

The person who wrote the page made a very very big mistake.

The alternate definitions are not definitions for a christian teen...they are definitions that the normal 'teen' has come up with! The alternate definition propose what 'teens' think about an issue not what we as Christians should think.

in the zondervan teen study bible 1998...Witnessing: alternate definition - telling your friends about God and sometimes having them laugh at you.

Most teens (with the exception of those that already have it instilled properly in them) will see the "laugh at you" and not heed anything else.

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The purpose of the alternate definition is to show what the normal average teen thinks...it does not promote or encourage that thought...on the contrary it shows why that is wrong.

How does it show that is wrong?



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« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2004, 10:46:59 AM »

For those of you that might be considering getting a study Bible for your teens I would like to point out the NIV Teen Study Bible published by Zondervan.

It is NOT a Godly book. I am sure some of you are saying, "Here we go again with the KJV versus the NIV debate."  Well, that is not what this is about. I am not talking about the interpretation of this version but the pages that are in placed in between.

Please read this link for more very important information.

http://www.av1611.org/kjv/nivteen.html

I don't think any good Christian parent wants their teen reading this. At least I don't.

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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2004, 07:51:21 PM »

I am not surprised.  The NIV is used by a great deal if not majority of Chrisitians.  It also has some real scriptural integrity issues - aka translation problems.  Of course I could cite the concern of the homosexuals on the board.

1) anytime people flock to get their hands a Biblical tool, it is more than likely time to raise the red flags.

2)  when a translation cuts out phrases and verses that confirm the Deity of Jesus Christ - a lot more red flags should pop out at you.

3)  NIV "writers/publishers/whatever" have also released a new gender acceptable Bible - aka, God can be "she" and the word men, brother, etc changed to human being and the like.

4)  Zondervan has also given up its ownership reigns to the same guy who published satan's bible and ungodly porn & homosexual magazines, etc.

5) does anyone else smell something rotten?
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« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2004, 11:43:44 PM »

The person who wrote the page made a very very big mistake.

The alternate definitions are not definitions for a christian teen...they are definitions that the normal 'teen' has come up with! The alternate definition propose what 'teens' think about an issue not what we as Christians should think.

in the zondervan teen study bible 1998...Witnessing: alternate definition - telling your friends about God and sometimes having them laugh at you.

Most teens (with the exception of those that already have it instilled properly in them) will see the "laugh at you" and not heed anything else.

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The purpose of the alternate definition is to show what the normal average teen thinks...it does not promote or encourage that thought...on the contrary it shows why that is wrong.

How does it show that is wrong?





Brother Roger,

I can tell you've never physically picked up a Teen Study Bible before or else you would never have asked those questions.

I have had the Teen Study Bible for 6 years. I find many of the issues discussed to be very mediocre ones and the way in which the study bible tries to be "fit, hip, and cool" to be very superficial. In my opinion, it is not a good study bible.

However, there is nothing wrong with the study bible and it does not imply what that link was saying. I strongly...very strongly suggest you reread that thing very very closely. Read between the lines and you will find the real motive of the author. I challenge everyone to find out what that is. Hint: the author is very green.

Here is what the graphic sheet for witnessing says just to show you exactly and entirely what it says (in fact...if i could show you all of the graphic sheets in its entirety...you will find out that what the author states in the link is obviously wrong)

Witnessing: to see or hear or experience something and to testify to its occurrence

Alternate Definition: telling your friends about God and sometimes having them laugh at you

"How do i lead my friends ot Christ without them getting mad at me? Why is it so hard? How can I witness to my friends? How do I talk to them about God without being too nosy? What if they laugh at me?"

What did you say?
Keep the focus on Jesus. He's the one who died to win your forgivenss. He's the one who brings you to God. He's the one to whom you want to introduce your friends.

Roamns 10:14
How can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard?

Matthew 10:19-20
Do not worry about what to say or how to say it. At that time you will be given what to say, for it will not be you speaking, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you.

You can earn the right to witness by being real. By taking an honest interest in tohers. By being friendly. By stating what you believe without attacking others or putting them down. When you earn respect some may still laugh, but they'll listen to what you say.


That is the text scattered on teh graphics sheet for witnessing. Apparently, the alternate definition is not exactly what the author of the link described. For any teen or person reading the graphic sheets...it is readily obvious that the alternate definition is not something we're suppose to take heed of. Brother Roger, I think this would answer both your questions.

Remember that the Teen Study Bible is put in the perspective of teens. Unfortunately I find it a little naive and mediocre but this aims to cover 13 to 19 year olds. I think this bible is better for 13, 14, 15 than 16 +.
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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2004, 12:51:02 AM »

 felix102

You are wrong. I have read this teen study bible myself. I asked that question as I wanted to understand your comments on it.

In my experience with teens that have not had an extensive Christian upbringing and are new to Jesus Christ that the "alternate definition" would have a tendency to stick out to them and they wouldn't read any further as that is the "language" that they understand the best. It would have been best just to leave the "alternative definition" out of it completely.

I must admit that I do have a problem with the NIV also as portions of the Bible was left out in its translation.

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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2004, 01:10:38 AM »

felix102

You are wrong. I have read this teen study bible myself. I asked that question as I wanted to understand your comments on it.

In my experience with teens that have not had an extensive Christian upbringing and are new to Jesus Christ that the "alternate definition" would have a tendency to stick out to them and they wouldn't read any further as that is the "language" that they understand the best. It would have been best just to leave the "alternative definition" out of it completely.

I must admit that I do have a problem with the NIV also as portions of the Bible was left out in its translation.



Sorry, I probably should never have assumed that you've never read the Teen study bible yourself. I understand the intent of you asking the question. But taking the question entirely literally, reading the graphic sheets itself should answer that, and no explanation would really be needed. I see what you are saying though...teens that lack a strong Christian background may misinterpret the Alternate Definition and take it as the real defintions for christians.

However, that is not the Alternate Definition's purpose; it is not for christians. I believe that you can clearly see that and what the author of that link is implying is wrong. The author is throwing that way out of context.

Honestly, I think even teens without a strong Christian background would understand the purpose of the alternate definition. In my opinion, it's a matter of intelligence on whether the purpose of the alternate definition is understood or not.

Again, to emphasize...the author of the link is still wrong. I am pretty sure what his motive is. I think that can be clearly seen.

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I do agree on your stance with the NIV. I still use the NIV because it is easier to understand. There certainly are many important words and phrases that are left out in the NIV. But I dont find that to be a very big deal. In the end, it is still the Holy Spirit who teaches us.
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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2004, 09:38:14 AM »

Did you know that Zondervan announced on 19 October this year that they are coming out with yet another Bible? This one is designed for teen boys ages 13 to 16. The owner of Zondervan is also the owner of Sun, a UK newspaper. Now I have never seen the "Sun" but I understand that on page 3 there are always displayed young girls, improperly dressed. Thiese girls are commonly called "P3girls".

It is currently planned to pull the maps and concordance out of an NIV and replace them with pictures and testimonies of some of the P3girls.


felix102,

Did you know that the KJV is written in a 4.5 grade level and the NIV is written in a 6th grade reading level?

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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2004, 04:50:33 PM »

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Did you know that the KJV is written in a 4.5 grade level and the NIV is written in a 6th grade reading level?

I highly doubt the credibility of that; it does not gauge Reading Comprehension which is the real issue. I find the NIV easier to read because it uses language and words that we are currently more use to.

The fact that the NIV would be at a higher reading level than the KJV really surprises me. I do not believe this claim.

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I got this from a site advocating the use of the KJV. No problem with the site however there is a strong bias. Strong bias tend to bend facts into ways that look best for them.
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A standard test determined the Authorized KJV reading level to be 5th grade because it contains mostly one and two-syllablic words making it one of the easiest to read.

Because it contains mostly one and two-syllablic words making it one of the easiest to read. That is why it's rated at a 5th grade level. Or that's why they say it is rated at a 5th grade level.

Notice that it is because it is mostly one and two-syllablic words, but that is completely different than the comprehension of the vocabulary, sentence structure and syntax. In that manner, the KJV would not be at a 5th grade reading level at all!

The KJV is the best translation, but that doesnt mean that all the other translations should be shunned. I support reading the KJV over other translation but I dont think this is such a big deal. I think it is more wise to read multiple translations.
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