RECALL WARNING!!

[Saved_4ever]

The maker of all human beings is recalling all units manufactured, regardless of make or year, due to the serious defect in the primary and central component of the heart.  This is due to a malfunction in the original prototype units code – named Adam and Eve, resulting in the reproduction of the same defect in all subsequent units.  This defect has been technically termed, “Sub-sequential Internal Non-morality,” or as it is more commonly expressed, SIN.  Some other symptoms:  loss of direction, lack of peace and joy, depression or confusion in the mental component, foul vocal emissions, selfish, violent behavior, amnesia of origin, fearfulness, and rebellion.  

          The Manufacturer, who is neither liable nor at fault for this defect, is providing factory authorized repair and service free of charge to correct this SIN defect.  The Repair Technician, Jesus, has most generously offered to bear the entire burden of the staggering cost of these repairs.  There is no additional fee required.

          The number to call for repair in all areas is:  
P-R-A-Y-E-R.  Once connected please upload your burden of SIN through the REPENTANCE  procedure.  Next, download ATONEMENT from the Repair Technician, Jesus, into the heart component.  No matter how big or small the SIN defect is, Jesus will replace it with the following:  love, joy, peace, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, patience, self-control.

          For free emergency service, 24 hours per day, 7 days per week, Jesus is standing by to personally take your call.



http://www.chibaptist.org

[Juan]

[Ambassador4Christ]

DITTO  

[Hitch]

Can God understsand prayers that are not spoken in King James style english?

[PastorTom]

Hitch:

You know that God only speaks Hebrew and Greek.  Those are the original languages of the scriptures and if the Holy Spirit was whispering the words in the writers' ears for them to copy down then those must be the languages God speaks.

Shalom

[lightsavour]

 Interesting way to express God's gift for those who do not know. However, and this is of no direct offence, I do believe that we as the saints appreciate the time u put into this thought. I dont think it is quite appropriate to try and stoop to an elementary or joking fashion to approach lost sinners. God's salvation was bought with the most amazing price, the crucifixion of his dear Son our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
    We must show the reverance we feel for God in our dealings with everyone. There is an even more importance for this with our dealings with the unsaved (who the post was directed to.) To be the testimony of true love and grace that God wants us to be we must first show the change that has happened within our heart. Granted we can use mans wisdom of words to explain parts of the Gospel, but we are walking with words that become dangerous when lost souls may actually read them. Far better it would seem to pour out your heart with all that God has shown you with words that show everyone how you feel.

 Just a thought, I mean no harm, just advice I hope will be heard as that. Your words were sure, but perhaps they could be just as equally clear as they were sure.

God bless you all.

[Petro]

The maker of all human beings is recalling all units manufactured, regardless of make or year, due to the serious defect in the primary and central component of the heart.  This is due to a malfunction in the original prototype units code – named Adam and Eve, resulting in the reproduction of the same defect in all subsequent units.  This defect has been technically termed, “Sub-sequential Internal Non-morality,” or as it is more commonly expressed, SIN.  Some other symptoms:  loss of direction, lack of peace and joy, depression or confusion in the mental component, foul vocal emissions, selfish, violent behavior, amnesia of origin, fearfulness, and rebellion.  

          The Manufacturer, who is neither liable nor at fault for this defect, is providing factory authorized repair and service free of charge to correct this SIN defect.  The Repair Technician, Jesus, has most generously offered to bear the entire burden of the staggering cost of these repairs.  There is no additional fee required.

          The number to call for repair in all areas is:  
P-R-A-Y-E-R.  Once connected please upload your burden of SIN through the REPENTANCE  procedure.  Next, download ATONEMENT from the Repair Technician, Jesus, into the heart component.  No matter how big or small the SIN defect is, Jesus will replace it with the following:  love, joy, peace, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, patience, self-control.

          For free emergency service, 24 hours per day, 7 days per week, Jesus is standing by to personally take your call.



http://www.chibaptist.org

Jason,

I must give credit where credit is do, this is a very good analogy,  Very Good, Roght on the Money..


Thanks,

Petro

[Saved_4ever]

Jason,

I must give credit where credit is do, this is a very good analogy,  Very Good, Roght on the Money..


Thanks,

Petro  

Thank you Petro, except I can take no credit for doing nothing other than pasting what I found to be a good simple message from my churches website.  That's why I put the link at the end to my church webpage.  It's always a part of my signiture (which is the little globe under my name for those who don't know).  I could ask my friend who posted it where it came from but I don't know where this message originated myself to give full credit.  I have no quams pasting info from my Church seeing as I am a part of it and help out with things all the time.  I am the resident IT person now amongst other christian duties.  I only post this disclaimer as I don't fell like getting flamed for being a theif as I've seen some people do.

God bless,
Jason
 
 

[Saved_4ever]

lightsaviour I'm sorry you think this message is inappropriate but I do not.  

Pr 15:13
A merry heart maketh a cheerful countenance: but
by sorrow of the heart the spirit is broken.
Pr 15:15
All the days of the afflicted are evil: but he that is of
a merry heart hath a continual feast.
Pr 17:22
A merry heart doeth good like a medicine: but a
broken spirit drieth the bones.

I don't feel that putting a very serious message in a way that even the simplest of people can understand is wrong or irreverant, but you are entitled to your opinion.  It's good to know that as faulty humans we have free repair services 24/7.  There is nothing untrue about it and plenty of people who think that it A)costs them something B)the aren't under the recall and C)don't seem to know the number to call.  This message can only be considered humorous or joking if you can laugh at all the things we've created that need fixing.  I think having a recall on the breaks on my car is a serious one not to be laughed at but hey it's your opinion.

God bless,
Jason

[lightsavour]

"Once connected please upload your burden of SIN through the REPENTANCE  procedure."

  This is entirely true, however in simplicity we can see how a mind/heart in true need would find this a ridiculous thing to adhere to. When I was unsaved and a rebellious teenager I did not mind the christians who spoke of God in a light manner, because it "did harm" to the truth of God's word to be light in speech, and so it was easier to move it aside. The words of God spoken in great reverance, perhaps using the understanding of one's car repair or recall would be much more effective.

  Again I stress it was of no direct offence, but of passing intrigue to me that this seems right and wrong in the same second. I do not guess your place in God's great grace because you seem to understand what it is that saves. However, it also seems as if very little discernment was used in presenting the Gospel on the internet.

  Be that as it may, perhaps you have presented the Gospel many times in many different ways, and this is just another attempt to reach people, I do not know. It is simply interesting to me as I question the response from an unsaved person having read this. Perhaps they would be intrigued as well, I cant know. It seems that we should be simple and clear in our reverance. Using our understanding only slightly, allowing the Holy Spirit to use the Holy scriptures as was the purpose of keeping the kjv so in tune with the past translations from greek/hebrew.

  Just simple observations.

 God bless you all.

[Petro]

"Once connected please upload your burden of SIN through the REPENTANCE  procedure."

  This is entirely true, however in simplicity we can see how a mind/heart in true need would find this a ridiculous thing to adhere to. When I was unsaved and a rebellious teenager I did not mind the christians who spoke of God in a light manner, because it "did harm" to the truth of God's word to be light in speech, and so it was easier to move it aside. The words of God spoken in great reverance, perhaps using the understanding of one's car repair or recall would be much more effective.

  Again I stress it was of no direct offence, but of passing intrigue to me that this seems right and wrong in the same second. I do not guess your place in God's great grace because you seem to understand what it is that saves. However, it also seems as if very little discernment was used in presenting the Gospel on the internet.

  Be that as it may, perhaps you have presented the Gospel many times in many different ways, and this is just another attempt to reach people, I do not know. It is simply interesting to me as I question the response from an unsaved person having read this. Perhaps they would be intrigued as well, I cant know. It seems that we should be simple and clear in our reverance. Using our understanding only slightly, allowing the Holy Spirit to use the Holy scriptures as was the purpose of keeping the kjv so in tune with the past translations from greek/hebrew.

  Just simple observations.

 God bless you all.

lightsavior,

I am reminded of what Paul says about the brethern, concerning sin, being sin to some while not to others and of course, if one finds something offensive, in depicting the gopsel or whatever, should  supposedly communicate the concern to His brother, but what you may see as offensive, isn't to others, and knowing Jason, from the board herein, even though we, have had some lively interchanges, he did not, present this gosple lightly at all, it appears to me there is nothing which he has said which can not be understood by those living today, and how it applys to the everyday living of it, and the blessings available to them that believe in God.

I myself have spoken on the owners manual of a new car, being similar to the Holy Bible, which informs the owner of the physical body one possess and the keeping of it according to the will of God, that is to say if the owner desires to have a healthy and fulfilled life, it is not the idea that the manual is equal to mans writings, but the message it gives the hearer of these words which the word of the creator intsructs man for righteous living, and gives the answers to all questions arising about life.

Now, the Apostle writes, the following;

Phil 1
14  And many of the brethren in the Lord, waxing confident by my bonds, are much more bold to speak the word without fear.
15  Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will:
16  The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds:
17  But the other of love, knowing that I am set for the defence of the gospel.
18  What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.

does this offend him, we can't answer that, but knowing Jason, we know his  motive behind the meassge, is Christ preached, you bet..

I can asure you this post in a secular forum, would have already been derided for its mere  religious  connotations;

 The Creator, Jesus, Atonement, Sin, Repentance,  not to mention;  love, joy, peace, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, patience, self-control.

They know...



Blessings,

Petro

[lightsavour]

 Well put petra. I'd have to say my words were as clarified as I could make them. Thus your comprehension of my error lay not in my obtrusion of the thread, but in the matter at hand. One we can all make note on. To be fully in the mind and heart of the Lord when we raise speculation or question to another brothers words. That is not to say that I am all great or all knowing, quite the opposite. I thought I was sure of what i was saying, so I spoke it clearly for all to understand. However, with love and kind words you have shown me my misstep, in that I questioned love and care rather than simply embracing it as the different form that each person brings from the hand of God.

  We are all different, and all with different personalities. Each has different personalities God will use, and each has different personalities God needs to change in us. I see that Jason spoke in a sure fashion of something I likewise cared about, but would of spoke of differently. There is no wrong committed here, but an understanding can emerge of the different uses God has for each of us. Jason may reach the people I cant, and likewise. It shall be as God determines is fitting. God is a wonderful God. Thank you for your likewise clarified answers.

God bless, and keep on.

[Petro]

You know, I am hard on myself, and occasionally am hard on those who contend with me, in a manner, that tries to interject error for the truth, especially by those who call themselves christian, but I do it, for two reasons, one to get them to think, I am not sure I am able to accomplish that soemtimes, two, that they might see their error.

Now having said that, that just happens to be the way, I do it, you are more loving and understanding, while I don't have patience for some of the nonsense Christians, want to accept as inspired, and teach, you may not take the time to wrestle little with them, and would rather use words, the church already has enough heresies it needs to clean out of its house,
we don't need more, especially since by this age they are all established, and have been rejected over and over.

I press the matter to get confessions, because I want to hear it from their own lips..

I have always enjoyed a good arm bending wrestling contest, perhaps this is why the Lord has given me, these physical attributes, and the injuries that come with being physical.

Nevertheless, it was a good lesson for myself, as I was thinking on this matter, since it reminded me of my own children, how all of them are different, they all love their father, yet some take more liberties, where others don't at all, and yet we learn to be patient with all of them, knowing their strengths and weaknesses; encouraging them and occasionally having to correct them along lifes way, but never leaving nor forsaking them.

Besides you answered it yourself, when you spoke about knowing Him, more intimately, and therefore, being able to take liberties.

Remember this, the Lord knoweth His own, and He remembers our frame, that we are but dust, if it were not for His grace, He would consume all of us, when we sin, especially in the ignorance and liberty  we take, sometimes even assuming and presuming, that we are outside His everlasting gaze.


Blessings,

Petro

[Juan]

I believe this is one of  the funniest part of the Bible.

Luke 24:13  And, behold, two of them went that same day to a village called Emmaus, which was from Jerusalem about threescore furlongs.
14  And they talked together of all these things which had happened.
15  And it came to pass, that, while they communed together and reasoned, Jesus himself drew near, and went with them.
16  But their eyes were holden that they should not know him.
17  And he said unto them, What manner of communications are these that ye have one to another, as ye walk, and are sad?
18  And the one of them, whose name was Cleopas, answering said unto him, Art thou only a stranger in Jerusalem, and hast not known the things which are come to pass there in these days?
19  And he said unto them, What things? And they said unto him, Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people:



Can’t you just picture Jesus Containing himself, while he asks them “What things”? He was pulling their collective legs. He pretended he didn’t know about HIS crucifixion. Can’t you see the humour of the moment?

[Petro]

juan,

Actually I do see what you are saying.

And it is funny, when you think of it in that context, but in actuality one can also, see the other side of it also, no doubt they were crying as they rercounted all these things to Jesus, especially when they thought about what He looked like after having been beaten, as He was, the scripture says;


At ,Isa 53
2  For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
3  He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
4  Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
5  But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

Imagine that, we are joint heirers with Him, according Rom 8:17.

One can even imagine their joy at seeing Him, and speaking to him somuchso, that they even walked back to tell the others that same night.,


Amen,

Petro