True or False

[aw]

Please explain your response if desired.

aw

[ravenloche]

An interesting question indeed!

Yeshua paid the price for our salvation, he paid the price for
our redemption, he paid the price for our healing: all of this is
known to be true.

If we check the scriptures however, we find that we own the
Lord not just a tithe of our first-fruits, but of everything in
our lives. Do we give him at least 10% of our time? Do we
spend at least 10% of our thoughts on him? When you awaken
every morning is it:
      "Good morning Lord"       .or is it:
     "good lord , morning"

This more than anything else will tell us if we give our first
fruits to our redeemer, or just offer him our left overs!
 Say either amen, or oh me!

Respectfully yours in Yeshua:

ravenloche

[ollie]

What are our tithes in Christ? Is it part of the law that was fulfilled in Christ? Are we free from it in Christ?
We give our selves to Christ.

[ravenloche]

Posted by: ollie  Posted on: Today at 03:03:09pm  
What are our tithes in Christ? The tithing of the law has been done away with through Christ on the cross.  

Yeshua is the living word of God.
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Joh 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

Jesus said that he came not to abolish the law, but to fulfil it.
Mal 3:8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.
Mal 3:9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.
Mal 3:10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

Nowhere in the scriptures do I see that this was done away
with. Abraham paid tithes the the priest of the most high long
before the "law" was established.
Cain and Able made a tithe sacrifice unto God.The sacrifices
for sin were done away with at the cross of calvary, but show
me where we are to disreguard the words of conduct in the
Torah?!?

Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
Ecc 12:14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

2Ti 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

All scripture, not just the new testament. At the time that the
above book was written, there was only the Torah, and the
Tanak--ie the old test..
If you search thru the scriptures you will find that there is not
anything in the N.T. that is not in the O.T. and that there is
nothing in the O.T. that is not in the N.t.

respectfully yours in Yeshua:

ravenloche

[Tibby]

     "Good morning Lord"       .or is it:
     "good lord , morning"

I woke up at 5 today, it was a "Good lord, morning" kind of morning


False. This is one of the things Baptist have right. We are to give to the church. What about the poor and sick? Personally, I'd rather give the money to a church that will take care of them, then go hand a 20 to a street bum.

[JudgeNot]

Sorry - I cannot participate in the poll.  If you were calling on the phone from a polling agency I would ask for clarification – if none was forthcoming I would simply decline to answer.  

(Interesting question, though.)  

[aw]

If I were to call and ask you if the following were true for you as an individual, how would you respond?

"YOU know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ how, even though He was very rich yet He became poor, that you through His poverty might be rich." (2 Cor 8:9)

Keep in mind that this scripture is right in the middle of the teachings on Christian giving and money.

aw

[Reba]

Is tithe a debt or offering?

[JudgeNot]

Is tithe a debt or offering?

Debt to a Jew bound by the Law.
Offering to a Christian bound by faith.

[aw]

Right. The tithe was OBLIGATORY to the Jew. It was no diferent from us paying our light bill.(Malachi 3) The Christian gives out of love, abundance of joy, and because it is a grace. (1 Cor 16:2).

aw

[ollie]

Posted by: ollie  Posted on: Today at 03:03:09pm  
What are our tithes in Christ? The tithing of the law has been done away with through Christ on the cross.  

Yeshua is the living word of God.
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Joh 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

Jesus said that he came not to abolish the law, but to fulfil it.
Mal 3:8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.
Mal 3:9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.
Mal 3:10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

Nowhere in the scriptures do I see that this was done away
with. Abraham paid tithes the the priest of the most high long
before the "law" was established.
Cain and Able made a tithe sacrifice unto God.The sacrifices
for sin were done away with at the cross of calvary, but show
me where we are to disreguard the words of conduct in the
Torah?!?

Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
Ecc 12:14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

2Ti 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

All scripture, not just the new testament. At the time that the
above book was written, there was only the Torah, and the
Tanak--ie the old test..
If you search thru the scriptures you will find that there is not
anything in the N.T. that is not in the O.T. and that there is
nothing in the O.T. that is not in the N.t.

respectfully yours in Yeshua:

ravenloche

You are right.
I said it wrong. I will correct my reply. Fulfill is what should be said.

ollie

[Allinall]

You know what I like most about tithing in the scriptures?  It's a practice that predates Judaism.  Before there were Jews, there was tithing.  We tend to see folk lumping this in with a practice of the law and attributing it solely thereto.  Such a shame.  

[ollie]

Is tithe a debt or offering?

good question

[ollie]

Is tithe a debt or offering?

Debt to a Jew bound by the Law.
Offering to a Christian bound by faith.

good answer

[ollie]

You know what I like most about tithing in the scriptures?  It's a practice that predates Judaism.  Before there were Jews, there was tithing.  We tend to see folk lumping this in with a practice of the law and attributing it solely thereto.  Such a shame.  

Yes, I did. I was wrong.
There was tithing before the law and under the law. Does it still exist in Christ or is the giving required different, in some respects, from 10% of our worldly goods?