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1  Theology / Prophecy - Current Events / Re: Babylon the Great is Falling on: July 21, 2011, 10:09:22 AM
Good Stuff!

As we watch the actions of Washington DC affect the entire world and realize the damage it has done to both Wheat and tare alike around the world, I wonder if any have drawn closer to America being the Nation described within Revelation? For what better title than Revelation to reveal these things? Regardless, there is no question that Scripture is written for these days and the City which rules is DC and the Saints and Prophets of today are being harmed by but one rouge city.

It is becoming clearer every moment.

Good Stuff!
2  Theology / Prophecy - Current Events / Re: America's role in the end times.. on: July 21, 2011, 09:58:31 AM
Greetings!

One of my favorite discussions from the past as we approach the time appointed.

Questions: If the end times are the focus of Scripture how in the world could the US not be found? Can anyone see the tear between the Public and Governing body of the US that was mentioned in this Topic years ago? Will the debt cause the canceling (or attempted canceling) of cash making credit and the Computer and Internet the only form of currency soon? Is the City which rules the Kings of the Earth not Washington and is it not falling fast just as we mentioned? Many more Revelations and topics come to mind from these and other conversations we enjoyed so long ago.

The Truth: The same yesterday, today and tommorrow.

Good stuff!
3  Theology / Prophecy - Current Events / Re: Why Study Bible Prophecy? on: July 21, 2011, 09:33:04 AM
To answer this question: Why Study Scripture?

We have to look at the two being asked.

Spiritual: Because He instructed us to seek the Truth.

Carnal: To find a loophole to save our buttocks.

Good stuff guys even old as Scripture itself (funny).

We have seen a lot of changes over the years and the links above have changed as well. While the content has not changed as we laid down a track record and paper trail (if you will) while we offered a fresh look at Scripture, the time is coming soon when a great battle between Religion and Scripture will erupt. Early still we invite all who desire to peek at portions, before they even make sense, to join us:

http://www.ubgone80
http://www.ubgone81
http://www.ubgone82

And while I visit so many forums and sites I may not remember the current rules and regulations concerning hyperlinks and such here, I only mean to invite and to share and not to promote. Please join us in linking this site there as well.
4  Prayer / Prayer Requests / Re: sister-in-law need chemo on: July 21, 2011, 09:18:04 AM
We never get to hear how it turns out...

All is well.
5  Theology / Prophecy - Current Events / Re: Has Bible Prophecy Already Been Fulfilled? (MUST READ) on: July 21, 2011, 09:12:47 AM
Now play nice nChrist.

A second glance at my comments clearly show examples of events described within Scripture that are yet to be fulfilled. My username is TheComforter. Further evidence of my view of Preterist is un-necessary. (By the way there are only Seven Religions in the World finding some fractured into many. Which one would Preterist inhabit?)

I understand material even without scanning and my comments are true and correct.

Point:

As we seek the Truth and those things said to be contained within Scripture as "hidden" and "to be revealed" at the time appointed, what service to God and the Truth are we if our fruit is unsavory. What shame to stand before the Lord un-knowing and to correct him. What fear to lead the righteous down the wrong path all the while in belief strongly that we have discerned correctly and do well. Is the outcome not the same? Have we not even by accident proclaimed false doctrine and done Heaven a dis-service?

It is written that at the time appointed the Lord shall send one to testify of Him "because" not one knows the Truth. No not one. Therefore and simply, to proclaim to know and to reach great lengths to describe and to show ones knowledge of Scripture and it's place within the last days is futile. One and all have been instructed to seek and find but only one has been promised to hold the Truth and to bear record at the time appointed.

Being familiar with Scripture as you must be to rightly proclaim it's content and meaning you must recognize the very sayings contained within this message and declare them truth. To deny that mankind has been proclaimed un-knowing in the last days and that one shall be sent to prepare the way for the Lord's return with certain items and Revelations is false doctrine. But even worse. To riddle the playing field with such rhetoric and mass data to be deciphered that it would cause the seeker to be bogged down and never reach the goal intended, this too is unsavory.

Why marvel ye at these things? And yet as the Truth unfolds before you to be focused elsewhere is where the fear should lie. I fear knowing the lonely and unrecognized Lord at His coming and not the Coming itself! 

Love, Hugs and a Spoonful of Spirit.

And try to embrace more and bash less...

Thy fellow servant.


Maybe you should have read more than the first sentence. Are you saying that you're a preterist? If so, I'll bluntly state that you believe in false doctrine. If you're not a preterist, you would have easily understood the material had you bothered to read it.
6  Theology / Prophecy - Current Events / Re: Will the Body of Christ Go Through the Tribulation? [MUST READ] on: July 21, 2011, 08:42:10 AM
If you could only sit with Christ for but a minute or two and listen...


But you can not. As I read and am aware of the Truth I see fish out of water. Flying, flapping and afraid - they are not even sure what is wrong. But think not that I come to belittle - no! I praise these for their attempt and proclamation as they try hard to find the Facts and suppress the fiction. I giggled slightly as one discusses the beast (anti-Christ) and within each post curses the computer. For the beast described to control all buying and selling is indeed the Computer and the Internet. 3 6's as a name is WWW and with a card as the mark in thy palm you try and remember your password hidden within thy forehead. And to speak of the Comforter in past tense is flawed as he is promised right before the 2nd coming (3rd actually - later discuss) and has been with man always. Tribulation - referred to as man made when it is referenced and repeated within Scripture? It is simple...


Lest ye come as a child: Open, innocent and seeking the simple truth. Ye shall not find it.

Love, Hugs and a Spoonful of Spirit. 

Sometimes the Truth is right under your nose and you can not see it for visions of fear and grandeur.

The day you feel you have spent too much time and put in too much work on your own version of the Truth that you can not throw it out and start over is the day your journey ends. Seek and ye shall find. Create and you will be fooled...



7  Theology / Prophecy - Current Events / Re: Will the Body of Christ Go Through the Tribulation? [MUST READ] on: May 06, 2011, 07:29:26 PM
The righteous and all who believe shall endue the times of trouble together. One unto glory and one unto gnashing of teeth.

The short answer is yes!

The Path Which is Truth is being prepared:

http://www.ubgone82

Truth is stranger to fiction...
8  Theology / Prophecy - Current Events / Re: Has Bible Prophecy Already Been Fulfilled? (MUST READ) on: May 06, 2011, 07:25:13 PM
Greeting Friends.

I will first admit to not reading past the first sentence or two of the Warning:

The warning is the only portion of this thread worthy of absorption. I can only comment concerning the fulfillment of prophecy in this manner:

http://www.ubgone80

http://www.ubgone81

http://www.ubgone82

The author of this post is John West and I am called the Comforter subsequently for over 30 years. Would you know the Truth if it jumped up and posted in this forum?

Scripture and the data thus far say no!

Love, Hugs, Spirit.

Ancient and Honourable, John West.

-Matthew 12:32
-John 14:26

The Comforter has not come to prepare the way anywhere in the past.

I John saw New Jerusalem - where is this in history.

Judgment is yet to be.

No-one may buy nor sell without the mark... As I watch men place a card into a slot and scratch their head trying to remember their secret number I marvel at the blind leading the blind. This shall change shortly...

I could go on for days but it would not change the fact that anyone who desires to believe these things have passed should be left to their own demise.

Stay thirsty my friends.
9  Prayer / Prayer Requests / Re: need prayer for church and personal weaknesses on: March 04, 2011, 02:18:51 AM
Gospel...

Good News!
10  Prayer / Prayer Requests / Re: urgent: marriage and husband on: March 04, 2011, 02:11:42 AM
Hoped to hear back from her...
11  Theology / Prophecy - Current Events / Re: To Andyastro... on: March 04, 2011, 01:50:16 AM
Talk about the Good Old Days...

Love, Hugs, Spirit Gang!
12  Theology / Prophecy - Current Events / Re:America's role in the end times.. on: August 11, 2004, 01:34:25 AM
 8)And He said unto me...

John.

And I said, "Here am I."

And He said unto me. "Rise and measure them which are within, and them which are without measure not."

Peace, and have a nice day.

John.
13  Theology / Prophecy - Current Events / Re:America's role in the end times.. on: August 10, 2004, 04:06:00 PM
 Cool Sounds like a lock up.

What you are saying is that you can not see what I am saying in what "you" believe. But to each his own. I myself do not talk about me and if tagging the topic with a certain religion will help you somehow you are strange indeed. Thanks for the walk as it helps me to see the manner in which others have collected and placed what is written. I fully and in advance understand that scripture has revealled just how many would know the Word.

As for me I will stand in judgement for my works as they do follow me.

As we all will.

In your service!

Ancient and Honourable, John West.
14  Theology / Prophecy - Current Events / Re:Babylon the Great is Falling on: August 10, 2004, 12:30:04 PM
 Cool A couple of points!

I addressed the actual topic on the other thread by mistake, it just fell in there.

MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER etc... is a name on the forehead of the woman. Which means on her mind. Check out the other thread and see if you can get the parable and what was on the womans mind as she "goes" down.

As far as the Lord holding back on some wrath for Rome?

The Roman system spun off of Babylon and in modern times the Babylonian system of city and state is America. No matter which path you take to remove the city which rules the kings of the earth from DC you will wagon wheel right back to America and DC.

Democrat? Only this time around! And as the king who has been troubled by the kings of the east goes down, hang on boys!

Right or wrong, understanding or not, scripture stops for no man.

Peace.

John.
15  Theology / Prophecy - Current Events / Re:America's role in the end times.. on: August 10, 2004, 12:16:34 PM
First may I say that this is fun, And no matter what, I can see exactly where you have gathered your belief.

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Rev 19:15  And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

You are not connecting the dots. John is given a rod like unto a reed, and Christ is never cast into the winepress which is described, as there is but one that runneth to and fro. You see the winepress is the symbol of judgement and "knowing" the very things we are now discussing (and I give unto you New wine) and there is but one who has seen and shall prophecy again. Christ is the one that will cast the fruit into the press, John is the only one who knows. (and in that day not one shall know the truth) Ever wonder why the word Blod is used as coming from a press designed for wine? Written in Blood means carnal fact. And while carnal facts flow from those who thought they knew, no wine or spiritual facts are mentioned at all. Real Blood will never run bridle deep to a horse it is to say that the rider will be up to his knees in sterile facts.

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BTW, this is at his grand return!   Seemingly fulfills Psa 2:9

Now we are getting somewhere! "I shall send unto thee..."
And let's look at the rest of that reference to back up what was said above about the winepress.

9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.
10 Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.


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Now let me show you some history in reverse, as in the future....

Rev 20:5  But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

Are we agreed this will be the millinium?
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No.

The millennium crossed time in the year 2000 and will again appear in the year 3000. And while the reign of Christ will indeed be 1 thousand years or "a" millenium it actually does not coincide with "the" millenium.

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Rev 20:6  Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Here we are, ruling and reigning with Christ

Here we are?

You see there are those who have been good and worthy from the start, and there are those who have not, but who did come to prefer righteousness over temptation. And while the rewards for the difference will only be to have those who understand how hard it was and how righteous one would have to be to look up to the effort and stature, those who reign with the Best (The Father and the Son) are those who were not perfect but who were at all times righteous.

Rev 14:
4. These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.



 
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Rev 20:7  And when the thousand years are expired (that is AFTER the 1,000 years), Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
Rev 20:8  And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

Behold, nation(s)!   So here we have it in black and white...Every nation is not destroyed at Christ glorious return.   Only those who worship the beast.

Oh you are good, but again it does not hold up.

And He said unto them, " Go not out of the city ".

And you are refering to the time of judgement and afterwards when His are gathered and separated from the rest of the world, and there is nothing they (those left out) can do about it. They know because the second death (which is the death of the spiritual wisdom man has long enjoyed) comes just after they know they do not have a chance. Imagine the outrage and anger to finally know you are not and will never be one of the wheat. The only time this is certain is at the end of the 1000 years when you become as the carnal man and lose the wisdom of the spirit that brought Adam to his feet naming and knowing and different from all the rest. Of course during the reign there are still carnal men outside the city doing everything they can to get in, but they are own their own. And if you knew "God" was right next door would you understand why evil was in check for a very long time?
 

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You are not alone in your view here TC.  There are many who don't see the woman of Rev 12 as Israel.   While I am open when it comes to things that are not clear, I am pretty convinced about this one because scripture backs it up.

Actually it does not.

Israel saw it's inhabitants and it's honour cast unto the furthest nation to return at the end of days. Sometimes you can understand best by simple wisdom. Pick up a globe and run a sword through it and see where it comes out.

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Rev 12:5  And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

There can only be one manchild who who fulfills this prophecy along with Rev 19:15 and Psa 2:5.   There is no other who can.   Seems to me you've got a lot of reconsiling to do to have America giving birth to the King of Kings.

I like that.

But again not knowing is the hardest part of seeing. You seem to intentionally overlook the coming of the one to prepare the way. From two angels with a sickle, all the way to prophecy before many peoples and nations and tongues and kings (here is where I mention the hint that the waters are many peoples and tongues etc, and she rules over the kings...) Elias truely shall come first, and they knew He meant John? Where have you put all of the scripture that reveals the events prior to the return of the Lord?

A "little book" - or - another book was opened...

Learn thee the parable of a fig tree, while ( His Branch )?

Learn thee a parable of the fig tree, while ( Her Branch )?

This is no mistake. It is one of the biggest hints provided by the Lord of the meaning. He sends him from the Father, he is borne unto the woman of many waters. And yes, while it may be hard to understand and believe I can share the biggest hint of all. There are three that bear record of heaven, and the Revelation of Christ is given unto John - who bear record. And when the Comforter comes whom I shall send unto thee - The Comforter is the Holy Ghost - Blasphemy of Christ is forgiven but blasphemy of the Holy Ghost is not - I can not figure out what you have done with large portions of scripture that will clearly show you that the one to come first and to Rock the world is not Christ. Of course sadly most of the rocking is to make them mad. Not on purpose but who are you to tell me my belief is faulty? (You understand) But what if one comes and tells it like it is meant and the entire world says NO WAY! And then Christ comes - like a thief - and says it was Truth. How embarrassing and hard to deny...

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I'm still puzzled as to how you are making the women of chapter 12 the harlot of Revelation 17.   One is protected by God, yet the other is destroyed.    Huh

Two women. Not the same woman. In 12 the beast is identified and in 17 again. In 12 the beast wants the child and makes war with the remnant of the womans seed. (The people are the seed of the Nation) In 17 the great city is stained with the blood of that seed, drunken. And the city is doomed because it turns it's back on it's own. The people...

And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth. Babylon - DC - Iraq - It doesn't matter as they both have the same king in the time appointed...( don't they? Who rules in Iraq now -  really? )



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Rev 17:5.

Now we get to have some fun!!!

Remember this is a name on the forehead. And on the forehead usually means on the mind. The woman - city - wants to stop the man child who is caught up unto God because with what he can reveal and say, he can stop the plans and deceptions of the city - the other woman is the target of the attack by the hand of the beast that will profit from the city getting it's way - the UN (happening now by the way, but not done yet)

Anyway. Back to the parable:

MYSTERY, - the first word and let me point out the comma. It is on purpose and very important!

BABYLON THE GREAT, - another comma, and the second word of the parable.

The MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH - mother is that which gives birth, so we are looking for what gives birth to the items described.

Let's see if you can answer the parable with a little help.

The MYSTERY of ? (not the woman but the entire Mystery)

BABYLON THE GREAT - in this portion of the tale is babylon coming or going? "Great" is to tie in the GREAT city that falls and goes up in smoke.

The MOTHER - what gives birth to things and usually uses naughty girls to promote it's wares?

If you get the first and last word of the three the middle will fill itself in. That is the Lord's doing and it is marvellous in our eyes.

What is on the womans mind as she goes down?

Thank you for the chance to try your patience and demeanor above the trial of belief. It is rare to find one who does not instantly go ballistic if their take is challenged.

In your service.

John.

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