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166  Fellowship / You name it!! / Re:Just need to talk... on: April 26, 2004, 09:41:12 PM
 Cheesy  Well, I say you did just fine.  Personally, I'm too self-concious --I'm not sure about that spelling--to fall all over the floor.  I've seen people do it too.  I just stand by  and I think that's just fine.
167  Theology / Prophecy - Current Events / Re:Why Aren't Our Religious Leaders Stronger on: April 26, 2004, 08:48:42 PM
 Grin  Maybe if our religious leaders didn't have to worry about financial support they would take firmer stands on things.  Biblically, and in our day, religious leaders have sent millions astray because they need financial support and they are willing to say whatever they need to to keep the money rolling in.  Even the biggest issues of legalism in America are about keeping a person productive.  Most of the reasons people are kicked out of church is because they practice sin that makes them unproductive.  But if you practice a sin that makes you have more money to contribute to the church, then everyone looks the other way.  In essence, I think that are many "Almighty Dollar" worshippers out there.  They also worship God too, but they may have the "Almighty Dollar" before God.  

Another thing that makes religious leaders go astray is that suddenly, through their religious leading, they've accumulated wealth.  Then suddently, if they were to love their neighbor as themselves, that would mean they would have to share their wealth--as in spend it on their neighbor like they spend it on themselves--but they don't want to do that--so then they make up all these new rules that discriminate between which neighbor is worthy of love.  You'll notice the least productive neighbors are the least worthy of their fellowship--sometimes it's just in deed and not in word, but mostly, it's actually in their teachings to discriminate against this neighbor or that.  What it boils down to is the religious leader doesn't want to part with their money that they've collected.  We shouldn't be shocked to hear this though.  That's what the religious leaders in Jesus day did too.  They've been doing it down through all ages.  Even back in Isaiah's day and even now, false prophets and false teachers.  They'll say anything they need to say just to keep an extra buck or two.

I have a small rule of thumb--"I can tell by your house and your car who your gods really are . . . "  A religious leader should be the first person to see to it that there are no starving people in the world.   Grin  

But also, we have to consider the Pastor knows the people he's pastoring.  She or he may be trying to work things out with the people they are pastoring.  Becoming perfect takes time--all the time we are on earth we will be sinners and the good pastors know this.  The key is to get them in the worship of God enough that the Holy Spirit does the convicting.  If a person attends church with loads and loads of sin, either the Holy Spirit is just no there or the Holy Spirit is moving at the pace of the purchased Bride of Christ's heart, the body is Christ is the Bride of Christ and she was purchased with a price--can anyone imagine our Lord forcing Himself on her?HuhHuhHuhHuhHuh?  Nix legalism!  The Lord gives us choices and we can give him this part of our lives and that part of our lives.  The pastor has to teach right and wrong yes, but it's not so much the pastor's job to stand around and convict people.  That's the job of the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit knows when.

Another thing is that some sinner will jump all over another sinner because of someone else's sin, and then turn around and ignore their own sin--that person that may have just as much sinning going on.  We have to pray for wisdom of the pastors.
168  Theology / Prophecy - Current Events / Re:Wholesale Brothels. on: April 26, 2004, 02:31:44 PM
Has anyone considered that if McDonalds would pay their employees a little more instead of hording all the extra money, that there wouldn't be a BILLION to donate to the homeless--AND many homeless would get some hope if they could work at a place like McDonalds and still be able to earn a living!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They oppress the poor through their pay, by giving the fruits of their labor away.  Then they get all these accolades for donating.  How about giving the laborer his rightful pay in the first place?  People get so depressed about a wage that wont even pay their rent, let alone buy food and don't even talk about health care because it aint in the budget!!  Those folks fall into depression and they fall out of society--homeless folks!  And yet there's billions of extra to donate.  Does anyone on earth see something wrong with this picture besides me?

I get so sick of some organization being the big hero by donating a billion here and a billion there.  How about just NOT reaping the laborer that works with his hands so hard--how about just paying the person, who did the work that produced all that money that they're giving away, pay that person a little more.  Then maybe that person could afford to get his own home!   Cry
169  Theology / Prophecy - Current Events / Re:Wholesale Brothels. on: April 26, 2004, 02:29:56 PM
Has anyone considered that if McDonalds would pay their employees a little more instead of hording all the extra money, that there wouldn't be a BILLION to donate to the homeless--AND many homeless wouuld get some hope if they could work at a place like McDonalds and still be able to earn a living!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They oppress the poor through their pay, by giving the fruits of their labor away.  People get so depressed about a wage that wont even pay their rent, let alone buy food and don't even talk about health care because it aint in the budget!!  Those folks fall into depression and they fall out of society--homeless folks!  

I get so sick of some organization being the big hero by donating a billion here and a billion there.  How about just NOT reaping the laborer that works with his hands so hard--how about just paying the person, who did the work that produced all that money that they're giving away, pay that person a little more.  Then maybe that person could afford to get his own home!   Cry
170  Theology / Debate / Re:One Father who is in heaven on: April 26, 2004, 12:30:58 PM
 Cry   Grin  Now you guys are moving off the topic of Heidi's original BEEF with the man that calls himself "infalliable" and worthy of worship.  She's not whining about his "Title"!  Her Beef is that he puts himself in between man and God.  Ah, the anti-Christ wants to do that too.  
171  Theology / Debate / Re:One Father who is in heaven on: April 24, 2004, 01:43:59 PM
 Wink  You GO Heidi!  I personally detest the worship of men to the point where I get steam blowing out of my ears at the mere insinuation that a man might be accepting worship.  If I were God,  Grin and I'm not, but if I were God, I would be very jealous of men that gave any indication that they were worthy of worship.  And if I were God,  Grin and I'm not any man that gave any indication that he was worthy of worship would be in danger of my heal fire--of course the raging fury of God's love is pretty scary.  So, I have to admit that people that go ahead and let folks bow to 'em have got to have at the least lots of intenstinal fortitude.  Anyway, I'm not saying you're right offending folks because there's steam coming out of your ears.  I'm just saying, I've got steam coming out of my ears over the same topic over and over and over and folks wont get it.  Alas, waiting util someone is ready to listen before you speak is called, "carrying the cross"

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