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Theology / Debate / Re:Joining the Military
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on: September 24, 2004, 04:39:35 PM
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You are wrong, as I enlisted in the Marine Corp. in 1976. I learned alot, that you would not learn on the outside.
How is what you learned in the military relevant to this debate? In the OT some where, it is allowed to protect your country.
I wasn’t saying it’s wrong to protect your country. I was saying it’s wrong to make promises. But if the government says you have to make a promise in order to protect your country, then it’s wrong to make that promise. In the Old Testament you were aloud to make promises. But in the New Testament Jesus said: “you have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not swear falsely, but shall perform your oaths to the Lord.’ But I say to you, do not swear at all…But let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ For whatever is more than these is from the evil one.” – (Matt 5:33-37) Jesus wasn’t talking about curse words; he was talking about promises. And by saying that you can make a promise if it’s for this reason or that, you make Jesus' words to no effect. Do you know the oath/promise you take when you swear in?? What is the last word of the oath?? As it is right now America is at war. Durning a war, you need to defend the country you live in. Or are you one of these (arm chair generals,) that believes that you should have all the rights and freedoms, with out serving your country. Freedom is not free. edited to add; JitC asked, How is what you learned in the military relevant to this debate?What I learned is that, it is the responcibilty, of everyone, civilians, and military to protect your country. Not just the armed services, everyone. Also if you work, you have a make promise. You are expected to show up to work at a certian time.
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31864
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Entertainment / Politics and Political Issues / Re:US vs IRAQ
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on: September 24, 2004, 01:41:14 PM
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Who is able to stand?
Jesus Christ shall stand for all, Jews and Christians. Woe to those who stand against Jesus. For surley they shall meet their doom. The goats will be tossed into the Lake of Fire at the "Great White Judgement."
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Fellowship / You name it!! / Re:JudgeNot?
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on: September 24, 2004, 01:30:34 PM
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ah God bless americans ...and their backworded ways God bless americans Canadians ...and their backworded ways. ROFL! Is that YOU DW? DO you think I would do that??
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31869
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Fellowship / You name it!! / Re:JudgeNot?
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on: September 24, 2004, 01:26:45 PM
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Arent US marbles worth more than Candian Marbles? Moving right along from marblessness, to without marble, to marblenvy, and now...... Marblenomics! This thread is a one huge marblerama! Marbleriffic. Outdone again. LOL <----sincereheart
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Theology / Debate / Re:Joining the Military
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on: September 24, 2004, 01:24:23 PM
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Joining the military isn’t like a normal job; you can’t just quit anytime you want. You have to sign a contract agreeing to enlist for so many years. When you sign up for the military you owe them a certain number of years of service; however many you signed the contract for. You can’t just back out, since a written promise or contract was made. During an enlistment, you have to obey your superiors, or else you’ll be punished.
Jesus said not to owe anybody anything, but once you enlist, you owe them so many years of service. Jesus said not to make promises, but in order to enlist you have to make a promise to serve for a certain number of years. Paul said: “do not become slaves of men”, but joining requires you to become a slave. No, you won’t have to pick cotton, or be whipped for disobeying. But you do have to do what you’re told, and if you disobey you will be punished.
I am thankful for the benefits that I reap because there is a U.S. military, but to join is wrong.
You are wrong, as I enlisted in the Marine Corp. in 1976. I learned alot, that you would not learn on the outside. In the OT some where, it is allowed to protect your country. Thats what I did, protect my country. I am happy I served. If They ever need me again, I would go. Course I would be in the handicapped division.
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Entertainment / Politics and Political Issues / Re:US vs IRAQ
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on: September 24, 2004, 03:36:14 AM
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Yes I am willing to die for Jesus. I will go while praising his name. What about those who has a family? Since these people are so merciless or heartless, do you think they will spare your wife or even your kids if they also refuse to be converted? Will one be willing to see their love ones being subjected to that? Can a true worshipper really endure that to the end? My wife is dead, my kids are grown adults. Yes my kids would miss me but, they know who I would be with, Jesus Christ. Yes a true worshipper really can, endure that to the bitter end.
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Entertainment / Politics and Political Issues / Re:US vs IRAQ
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on: September 24, 2004, 03:10:36 AM
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Will one Christian, a true worshipper of our Lord Jesus Christ, succumb to these fears and worship their religion? Are you willing to die for Jesus Christ?
Yes I am willing to die for Jesus. I will go while praising his name.
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31874
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Fellowship / You name it!! / Re:Guest/User Ratio
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on: September 24, 2004, 03:07:03 AM
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Seems more normal now..... 2 Guests, 3 Users DreamWeaver, sincereheart, JitC Course that is five of us in the middle of the night! Thats about normal, from what I have seen.
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