[Hebrews 8:13 By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.]

Tom...

I don't know what happened to the bottom part of my post because it is not readable, at least on my computer now.

The rest of it is...

We can in no way compare the two as equals, yes they are both the inspired word of God. In the O.T. there is a wealth of knowledge but as Christians we need to LIVE the N.T.

Hebrews 8:13 By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.

“anything we do for GOD begrudgingly is burned up as useless”

If we try that; we are not only lying to God we are also lying to ourselves and it is meaningless.

1Timothy 1:5-6 The goal of this command is love, which comes from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith. Some have wandered away from these and turned to meaningless talk.

“it can't be for recognition or other matters of pride”

Matthew 5:45 He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.

What can we have pride over?

Obadiah 1:3 The pride of your heart has deceived you   (Yes O.T.)

Galatians 6:4-5 Each one should test his own actions. Then he can take pride in himself, without comparing himself to somebody else, for each one should carry his own load.

James 4:16 As it is, you boast and brag. All such boasting is evil.

Ephesians 2:8-9 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith — and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God —not by works, so that no one can boast.

John 14:1  “Do not let your hearts be troubled. Trust in God; trust also in me.

Romans 15:13 May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace as you trust in him, so that you may overflow with hope by the power of the Holy Spirit.



What I wrote in my first post was about tithes/offerings and only that. I did not try to get into theology.

I am sorry; we are getting off the tithe topic and there is probably another thread that this might suit better.

The heart is the starting point not a given monetary amount, no min's or max's.

TGIF
RBKay

blackeyedpeas

“YES, the site is quite active with over 10,000 page views per day and average posts of over 135 per day.”

I used the wrong word when I said site, I probably should have used “thread”.
I have not had time to nose around through the site.

“Everything we have is a blessing from GOD, so we really could say why not 20% or 30%.”

If it was 10% under law why in the knowledge of what Christ did for us should it not be 10% or MORE.

In any case; everything should be done from the heart with love.

James 2:26 As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.

The O.T. was given to the Israelites; Gods chosen people; but there is an extreme amount of the writings that we can learn from for our daily walk.

“There are many other reasons why the Old Testament will never (XXX) become less important than the New Testament”

I would not use the “out of style”

I don’t agree with that statement. The N.T. is the advent of Christ’s birth, life, death and resurrection.

In the light of that; God the Father provided a way for sinners such as I to be wash clean and have salvation and an eternal life with Him.

Without the N.T. we would still be taking sacrifices to the temple; if we were Jews. Gentiles - well lots of luck???

The O.T. the sheep died for God and the N.T. God died for the sheep.
A tremendous difference.

We can in no way compare the two as equals, yes they are both the inspired word of God. In the O.T. there is a wealth of knowledge but as Christians we need to LIVE the N.T.

Hebrews 8:13 By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.

“anything we do for GOD begrudgingly is burned up as useless”

If we try that; we are not only lying to God we are also lying to ourselves and it is meaningless.

1Timothy 1:5-6 The goal of this command is love, which comes from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith. Some have wandered away from these and turned to meaningless talk.

“it can't be for recognition or other matters of pride”

Matthew 5:45 He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.

What can we have pride over?

Obadiah 1:3 The pride of your heart has deceived you   (Yes O.T.)

Galatians 6:4-5 Each one should test his own actions. Then he can take pride in himself, without comparing himself to somebody else, for each one should carry his own load.

James 4:16 As it is, you boast and brag. All such boasting is evil.

Ephesians 2:8-9 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith — and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God —not by works, so that no one can boast.

John 14:1  “Do not let your hearts be troubled. Trust in God; trust also in me.

Romans 15:13 May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace as you trust in him, so that you may overflow with hope by the power of the Holy Spirit.



What I wrote in my first post was about tithes/offerings and only that. I did not try to get into theology.

I am sorry; we are getting off the tithe topic and there is probably another thread that this might suit better.

The heart is the starting point not a given monetary amount, no min's or max's.

TGIF
RBKay

I am new here, I found this site by accident and I don't know if it is still active....

There always seems to be a mix of O.T. and N.T. Scripture when trying to "prove?" something, why not use N.T. Scripture when it is available?.

When the word tithe is used the person is equating it to the law.

Paul said...
2Corinthians 9:7 Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.

Paul also said...
Galatians 1:12 I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it; rather, I received it by revelation from Jesus Christ.

Unless we say Paul is in error we then need to believe that 2Corinthians 9:7 is from Jesus Christ and if so them Jesus did away with "tithe".

So in N.T. context there is no tithe just giving from the heart.

Jesus was raising the stake when He asked from the heart which is more than reluctantly or under compulsion by the law.

Jesus wants your heart and having that; you give freely and all of yourself, you can’t try to buy anything with 10% (the law), Jesus does not need the money He wants your heart.

The heart is the starting point not a given monetary amount, no min's or max's.

Romans 2:23 You who brag about the law, do you dishonor God by breaking the law?

James 4:16 As it is, you boast and brag. All such boasting is evil.

Ephesians 2:8-9 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith — and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God —not by works, so that no one can boast.

TGIF
RBKay

Thank you for allowing me in.