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Entertainment / Television / Re:MTV contest
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on: August 13, 2003, 04:03:57 PM
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hate is such a strong word.
their spiderman cartoon is pretty good, other than that there isn't much to watch on MTV.
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Theology / Apologetics / Re:Christianity is NOT real!
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on: August 13, 2003, 02:16:14 AM
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i don't see why you can call this person a hypocrite after just one post.
i myself was a christian until i reached the age of reason, yet i have tolerance for my fellow man even if he does mingle with the plethora of egocentric mythologies floating around the world today.
some people "love" the sinner, hate the sin.
i find myself liking and loving others, yet showing my disdain for their primitive short-sighted beliefs.
it's the same mentality, yet i would gamble to say i am more tolerant than many christians say they are.
i guess i'll just address the original topic before the poster's integrity was challenged.
i think that christianity is no different than any other wrong belief. it can be inspired by the same sources as any other completely wrong idea. a child can be taught christianity is true just as a child can be taught the earth does not move, both might be sensible at the time, show no immediate signs of error. no matter when or how a belief is set on someone, connections are made. and when one build's their logic around any simple statement (the earth does not move. there is a god.) it's hard to get back to the original idea without sifting through the piles of other ideas brought forth by it. which brings me to a important lesson when dealing with ANYTHING:
if you start from a wrong point, no matter how smoothly or logically you advance, you'll never make it back to the road of truth.
so when dealing with the unmoving earth, anybody who built upon the idea got a shock when the truth emerged, but as you can see, most of us are over it.
christianity won't gloss over quite as easily, this concept has had millenia of compiling on a wrong starting point, and, need i mention, it's a concept people may live their entire lives by. if the unmoving earth is a two story house, christianity is a skyscraper in terms of how much logical, social and emotional stock is put into it. if there was a way to entirely disprove the thing, and there isn't: there isn't a way to entirely prove or disprove anything, i'm pretty sure many christians will be sent to a psych-ward, i wouldn't be surprised if there were suicides either, not just christianity, ANY religion or high held belief.
i was a christian before i reached the age of reason, it wasn't that old of an age, some things i thought about blew my mind on many subjects. some people can become atheists, some can't. i was never a fundamentalist kind of guy, my skyscraper wasn't too big. i destroyed my foundation and it didn't leave too much of a mess. i couldn't imagine the turmoil a priest would have to go through though, so i don't blame people too much for being wrong. i only blame people for not doing what is right. i'm not interested in if you believe in the tooth fairy, i'm only interested with what you do with the money on your pillow.
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Theology / Apologetics / whence cometh evil?
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on: August 04, 2003, 03:39:50 PM
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Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? -- Epicurus
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Fellowship / You name it!! / rights of men
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on: July 28, 2003, 02:44:39 PM
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It is contended by many that ours is a Christian government, founded upon the Bible, and that all who look upon the book as false or foolish are destroying the foundation of our country. The truth is, our government is not founded upon the rights of gods, but upon the rights of men. Our Constitution was framed, not to declare and uphold the deity of Christ, but the sacredness of humanity. Ours is the first government made by the people and for the people. It is the only nation with which the gods have had nothing to do. And yet there are some judges dishonest and cowardly enough to solemnly decide that this is a Christian country, and that our free institutions are based upon the infamous laws of Jehovah. -- Robert Green Ingersoll
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