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1  Theology / Debate / Re: Why dislike Mormons so much? on: May 19, 2006, 08:13:10 AM
I know and love Jesus Christ.  He is my Saviour.   

I am not here to argue about religion. Many people have been killed, tortured, bullied in the name of religion.  So much anger all for the name of religion.

You have your opinion and are entitled to it. 

Take care my friend  Smiley


2  Theology / Debate / Re: Why dislike Mormons so much? on: May 19, 2006, 06:55:42 AM
Hello Pumkin,

First, I'll assume that you are a Mormon and find this thread offensive. I'll simply tell you that I'm much more concerned about your lost condition than I am in offending you. Whoever tells you the truth about JESUS CHRIST is doing you a BIG favor whether you appreciate it or not.

This is a Christian forum, so we make no apologies at all in telling people the truth about JESUS CHRIST and how to be saved. You probably already know what we believe, so there is nothing shocking here at all.

You are most welcome to stay with us. Many of us would love to tell you about JESUS CHRIST and how to be saved. If you are a Mormon, this will obviously be much different than what you have been taught. Again, we would make no apology at all for that. Eternity for you is at stake, so we really aren't concerned about you being offended with us stating the truth. We don't teach any Mormon doctrines here, mainly because they are against the teachings of the Holy Bible, and they don't result in the Salvation of anyone. It would not be loving or Christian of me to withhold the truth from you. So, I hope you stay and hear more.

Tom

Thankyou for your invite.  Firstly, let me clear something which I must have given the wrong impression for.  I am not anti any constructive, good teaching or missionary work.  I have been taught and read the Bible.  No, I do not know my Bible word for word, for that matter, neither do I know the Book of Mormon word for word!

What I do find offensive is the antogonism and general dislike of people who may believe something 'different'.  I am not talking soley about Mormons. What about Jews?  Hindus?  Some of the most amazing people belong to those religions!  The only difference of what is happening on these boards and the christian crusade, is that the people on these boards are not out killing and burning (I hope!).

I was born into a Catholic family and attended a convent.  In my youth I felt that the teachings were wrong and I couldn't identify with it.  I have attended methodist, Anglican, Congregational.  I have attended charismatic gatherings and yes, I have been baptised a Mormon.   Out of all the Churches I attended, the Mormon Church represented true Christian values.  Some of you are probably shuddering at the very thought!  Roll Eyes  NO, I have NOT been brain washed - something which people choose to believe as well!  It took me a long time to be baptised.  I prayed, pondered, investigated, questioned.  I am one of the most sceptical people around!

I am not going to champion the Mormons.  I know what I believe and as it has been clearly said on here, it is a 'Christian' site and Mormon teaching won't be tolerated. Fair enough.  We will leave it at that.   But I do note that while the forum is adamant it won't tolerate any Mormon doctrine, if finds no fault in trashing the Mormons at the same time! So, there is no chance of any belief not believed 'Christian' to actually 'defend' itself now, is there....... Wink

There may be faults in the Church. I will not deny that.  There may be questions which need answering.  But that is in any religion, even the Christian one. 

I am not frightened of listening to other people.  In fact, I was recently invited by an extremely good friend of mine to attend a ladies weekend of a charismatic church.  I had a lovely weekend of worshipping and fellowship.  And I did worship with them, why?  Because contrary to what people want to believe, we love Jesus Christ as our saviour.

3  Theology / Debate / Re: Why dislike Mormons so much? on: May 19, 2006, 05:52:05 AM


How many years ago was the Bible created?  How many books are in the Bible?  How do we know that we have an accurate, unchanged account of those books?  These books are written by man many hundreds of years ago, how do we really know they are accurate and that they weren't changed to suit the churches of those days?  How do we know that Joseph Smith wasn't a prophet of God?  Why can there not be prophets in these last days? 

There are pastors and people of 'good' standing who are disobeying the very commandments they teach!

For all the 'Christian' utterings going on in these forums, I have never come across more 'unchristian' thoughts, utterances and general dislike for fellow man.

If what goes on in these forums is what is meant by being chrisitan, no wonder people are turning away in droves!! 

There are a lot of people who need to take the splinter out of their eye first before running down others. 

It is one thing to use one's time in studying the Bible parrot fashion and being able to quote from it, it is quite another putting into action what the Bible teaches and showing love towards your fellow man.

Who are you to judge others?  For all your quotes of what it is to be Christian, at least churches like the Mormons etc, (who you all appear to be such 'learned scholars' of), their teachings do not involve criticism, putting down and such anti-christian behaviour.  They teach proper family values, love for fellow man and  believe that everyone has their own 'free agency'.

At the end of the day, it is not you who will sit in judgement of them, so why worry?  Concentrate on your own shortcomings and try save yourselves first. 

Talk about the extreminism of other religions?  Read these forums! 
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