Just for the record yesterday afternoon I took the time to present a reply to all your answers, the angry red ones and the sincere ones too.

I spent a couple hours trying to make it easily understood.

I look this morning and see that my post has been removed with no reason sent to me as why.

I can only assume someone involved with this thread doesn' want the truth to be told.
That can only mean that someone is not supporting the Truth and the Light and the Way but instead the opposite.

I will not repeat it again.
I can't say I've enjoyed my visit to this little piece of the path to The Great Deciever's slaughterhouse, but I can say I tried my best to stay true to Jesus Christ and my rolel as defender of his True word.  

I feel bad for many of you as your hearts and souls were once reflections of the love of Christ. And that has been poisoned.
I offered an antidote. You refused it and scoffed at it.

Your attitudes and words here are very reminiscent of the words and attitudes of the Romans and Jews toward the end Of Jesus's 1st run on this Earth. And yet your blindness makes you think the opposite.

I suppose you could say you won this battle and I have lost.
And you have supported the Great Deciever in your victory.
The thing is you have lost too.
 

I will continue to fight and defend the Word of God and His Son Jesus Christ for I am sworn to do so and was baptised by His tears.

And I suppose you will continue to do the opposite while thinking you are doing the same.

I feel I have failed you.
Such is my lot.

 

Well I am not surpised by the mean spirit I have met here. It is no different then the mean spirit that I imagine many of you have met on your alleged path to the House of the Father. In fact it is the same I imagine.

Although you guys could be a little more creative in your arrow slinging, I suppose. At least your resistance confirms that I am doing my job.  Jesus in the 1st century AD was also accused of being against God and more. He was likened to the fanatics of His day just as some of you have with me here. And then their's the Baptiste.
   But I am not a fundamentalist. For fundamentalism is responsible for most of the pain and suffering endured by humanity. And they do it 'under the name of god' which means they have fallen for the deception and are actually doing the bidding of the Great Deciever.

I am meek and so an easy target for your hate and ridicule.
I speak the truth people have forgooten so many rush to condemn my words.
I defend the Light and The Way with the sword of the TRUE WORD of The CHRIST and HIS FATHER. FOR HE IS MY FATHER TOO! He is also your Father but many of you have forgotten His face though you falsely claim to worship Him. And your rememberance of the face of your Father will come too late. So your little arrows of fear and hate and ridicule do little more then light my path into battle. Thanks for the heads up!

My whole long life I have been the recipient of your vulgar and mean spirit while you wore the cross over your heart.
I wore your spit and excrement and you made me bleed for your entertainment. And you did this to me claiming you were doing a Christian thing. But your actions reveal that you are worshipping a false idol whom you have confused for The Christ! Or worst you are worshipping an evil wolf wearing a lamb's coat and a fake crown. And so you run away from The Christ to call the devil Jesus. And then you run to people like me and try and slay my spirit and poison my heart. Jesus wept at the sight of your downfall and ignorant cruelty, for He felt abandoned. And I felt His tears fall onto me. Such heavy, beautiful, tragic things. And though at the time I was not worthy I asked if I may protect His tears from ever falling to Earth again. And He granted me this. He gave me His Words and I held them in my hand, and in my heart where they nourish me. It was so beautiful. I was a blind man seeing LIGHT for the 1st time and it became my turn to weep. We talked about how His words have been usurped and misconstrued by followers of the Great Deciever's progeny- fear, greed, power, and hate. Together we wept over how his name and the name of the will of Our Father was used to promulgate evil as a way to His table. How people are shielding themselves from the True Light of God under a blanket of convictions and have stopped seeking the Truth. And we both wept openly. He showed me each lost soul worshipping another under His sacred Name. He showed me the weapons used to destroy Christkind built falsley under His name. And He showed me each soul killed by someone brandishing His Name like a whore brandishes vulgarity in her dance.  And we wept until our tears wiped these horrid visions away or at least tempered them for they are with me now as I write this. He told me that each thing done to these souls would be attempted to be done to me. And so He made me a sacred cloak from His Light to protect me. And He taught me to forge a powerful sword from His words.
And then He let go of my hands and dropped me in a cave. In His 'penultimate embrace' he told me in the cave I would find three things. And if I were to find them I would emerge from the darkness of this cave into His Divine Light and be ready for battle as one of His Souldiers. And then I was to clear a path for Him. For He is coming to the earth again. But if came without a path of Light carved out of the cruel darkness of our land He would be swept away before He could even begin His work. Such is the way of the world right now and the way of religion.  
   In the cave I found the three things. The 1st was a scroll. I opened it but could not read it. The second was a cup, made of wood and filled with a fluid so clear it seemed to radiate. The third was a mirror. When I looked in the mirror I saw an ancient looking man looking back at me. There was a line for every lost or perished soul The Christ had shown me. And then I realized it was me in that mirror. Even though I had met the Christ when I was a young person living under the floorboards of society I was now an old man. And I wept once again. And in doing so I saw something in each tear. It was the Christ whom I saw in each tear. And from this I grew strong.
I gathered these three belongings, my only belongings ever really, and I walked through the cave for what seemed like years. The radiance of the cup my only source of light. Because of this I was knew I couldn't drink from it until I reached the light. And with the scroll tucked under my shirt, a companion for my heaving chest, I have emerged.

And once again on a supposed Christian place I meet the followers of the opposite. Those calling darkness Light and convictions and menadacity truth So my fight continues for the Lord.

And you will find His Souldiers in the walks of life of the meek. And most of you will walk right by us at best or condemn us in word or deed at worse. And we Souldiers will continue to fight and God Willing win in the end. But this is not preordained. For on the life of Earth humanity has existed for only a blink of the Earth's eye. We haven't even begun to walk on our own yet.

For I am a chosen defender of The Christ and you have raised your hand to smote me.

Errrrr...don'tcha mean "smite"?  I'd hate to have Reba smoting a chosen defender of The Christ when she meant to smite him...  Love ya Sis!

Seriously though, you claim Christ, so that makes you my brother.  You should check out the scriptures to learn God's view of war, government, and His role within each.  He sets up kings and takes down kings.  He steers nations in direction at His will.  I, for one, have no problem saying that the war in Iraq was God's will.  If it wasn't, then somebody sure caught Him by surprise...

If this were true then the their would be no such thing as evil in this physical world. And we both know their is. If this is true then I guess abortion is God's will? I think not. In fact I know better. One of the Great Deciever's method's is to have the masses say- it's ok, it's just God's will. That has been the false justification for so much evil in the world and here you are espousing it yet again. I am learning

 With regards to the Scriptures I have held the originals. I only know 5 others who can claim that. The words I protect have not been compromised by the filter of humans in the throes of greed and quest for power.

Richard,

Yes i called you a baby killer and claim the blood of the unborn to be on your hands. Seems you are also a circle talker. No one who supports the democrates, the party of baby killers is christian in my view. It matters not to me how you support them by $$, word or deed. I am done waisting my time reading your posts.

Reba you have just called a defender of the Christ and the carrier of his sword something blasphemous.  I suppose this means it is to late for you. I will not waste my blade of Truth on someone who has willingly to jumped into the Great Deciever's lap because they are blind and have confused his burn for the warmth that only the LIGHT of God can provide. Such is his Deception.  We have lost you. Your ignorant balsphemy another stepping stone on the path to hell. Well at least you are not alone.
I don't take the loss of your soul lightly. For that is why I am here. But I shall defend the name and honor of the Christ who I have worn to protect over all else. And I believe if HE showed up in your 'church' you would be one of the 1st to attack Him.
While it is too late for you I will pray for your family.
And I am saddened by your ignorance and you blasphemy. For I did nothing to deserve it but speak the truth and try and save you from the Great Deception. I said nothing to earn the mean spirit you have flung at me. But I suppose your rage will prevent you from seeing that.

JE Said:

1. The truth I am swayed by and blood sworn to defend is The TRUTH. That backed up by facts, not rhetoric, not deception, not distortions, not mendacity.

I can accept your word on that since I don't really have a reason not to.

Just because it may not support your convictions doesn't make it any less true.

 My convictions, as I said are Bible based, according to teachers I know and trust.  Nothing personal, but I don't know you.

I have seen blood in the past and in the future. And for this knowledge I am paying the price.    Truth be told I feel like a dragon slayer who survived yet failed to slay the dragon. Their is no comfort in that type of survival. For I have failed. And when I returned to what appeared from a distance to be the House of God for healing I realized as I grew closer to my destintion that their are many houses built to look like the House of God but inside are only false idols and lost souls. And so my return was met with anger and dare I say hatred. But I promised my Lord I will gladly stand and face the clubs of convictions and arrows of untruth because to do anything less would be a dis-service to the Warriors who have gone before me and The Christ Himself. So here I stand.
And I am sworn to remember the Face of my Father and to do His work, no matter who chooses to be my enemy.
For I must forge a path for the Way, and The Light. Because He is coming.

You're a prophet?  That would be a tough load to bear.
I'm sorry, again - nothing personal, but I'm a little skeptical about that reality... (as we are taught to be by Jesus).

I appreciate your skepticism and may it serve you well.
All I ask and insist is you use your skeptcism with regards to politics and policy as well. For real trouble is amok there and it is serving the swift horsemen known as power and greed.
 
I take none of this personal for that would be wrong. This is not about me. Just like my posts are not really about you although they may be about your beliefs and convictions. Please don't take my words personally either- which appears I don't need to worry about that.

I am not a prophet. I wouldn't survive long in this world (or this forum probably  ) if I was. But I am a protector of and warrior for The One some call Prophet. For if He were to appear in many a 'house of worship' today He wouldn't make it to the exit 'alive'.  And to sacrifice prematurely is no sacrifice at all and saves nothing, only wastes.
I am merely forging the path and 'clearing the land mines' laid down by the Great Deceiver's 'worker bees'. So I am. I am guided, I dictate not the direction nor the guiding.

   

Do me a favor here, would ya RE?  Tell me about your being chosen to fight in God's light and name please.

The answer to this is to long a story for a forum. And some I simply cannot tell. At least not of all it can be told in words. That has more to do with my promise then anything else I suppose.
But if you pare down your question and ask me something more specific I will do my best to answer you.
If you are baiting my I will soon find out I suppose.
But right now you seem sincere and that I welcome hungrily- it's cold where I am as I think you may know.

[My answer: THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I AM DOING!!!]

One in four! Wow the Dems are really in the minority in that foundation huh? Thank you very much for helping me prove that this site is not pro dem. You did a great job in that. God Bless ya.

You're welcome. I'll also help you with math. Two in four. One plus one equals two. The reference was to two different individuals out of the four. That makes 50%.

Also please don't assign actions to me I didn't do.

You assign them yourself. See below.

 

What I simply have done is encourage people to search for the truth. Because you will not find the truth on FOX, CNN, MSNBC or the zillions of partisan websites on both sides out there.

I'll agree. The only truth that can be found is in God's Word...certainly not in anything man-made.....or man-touted.
 

If you read the information on that genuinely bi-partisan site which you have effectively proved, and you allow truth and honesty to guide your hand come Election Day instead of your hand being guided by convictions and mendacity, then I feel I have done the work of our Lord Jesus Christ. Nothing more.

Nice attempt at generalized character assassination. Let's see: (1)if one votes for Bush, then one is not led by truth and honesty. (2) convictions should play no part in voting. (3)those who vote conviction are liars (mendacious).

And you think that is doing the work of Jesus Christ?

Pugnacious I may be, but mendacious I am not...and I will always vote the conviction of the Word of God.

I am doing the Lord's work and trying to save those decieved by the Great Decievers of today's GOP.

Maybe you would do better to do the Lord's REAL work and try to save all those deceived by THE great deceiver, satan.

 

Frankly my political hope is that Bush falls from his false grace before election day and John McCain takes his rightful place and becomes the president of our country.

Ahhhhhhh.....the water's are a little less murky, now.

McCain would have been president if Karl Rove didn't lie during the 2000 primaries about McCain. Rove had campaigners lie to voters telling them McCain was Pro choice (he is not) and telling them he fathered a black child out of wedlock (he didn't, but he did adopted a girl of mixed race in order to save her life).
Bush endorsed these lies and so to me is a deciever of decievers. 

Proof? Or specious and egregious allegation?

You wrote:
Maybe you would do better to do the Lord's REAL work and try to save all those deceived by THE great deceiver, satan.

My answer: THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I AM DOING!!!

McCain would have been president if Karl Rove didn't lie during the 2000 primaries about McCain. Rove had campaigners lie to voters telling them McCain was Pro choice (he is not) and telling them he fathered a black child out of wedlock (he didn't, but he did adopted a girl of mixed race in order to save her life).
Bush endorsed these lies and so to me is a deciever of decievers.

Proof? Or specious and egregious allegation?

It is Proof. For specious and egregious allegations are the work of the Great Decievers. That is whom I have been chosen to fight in God's Light and Name. Here's the proof, may it set you free:

http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Push_poll

http://www.webdelsol.com/The_Potomac/politics-rove.htm

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2000/02/14/politics/main160398.shtml

http://slate.msn.com/id/74943/#ContinueArticle

Whoa! A lot has happened on this thread since I logged off two hours ago and just logged back in!  My-my!  What passions we have.
 
Passion is good as long as passion is for good.  (I just made that up all by myself!)  

Richard:

I never used the word biased or unbiased.

No – but as I demonstrated ‘bias’ is part of the definition of ‘partisan’.

I am swayed by one thing - the truth

Whose truth?  As I’ve said in other threads, there are three sides to every story: your side, my side and the truth.  Your side is only your side as you wish, according to the stories you make a decision to read or listen to and believe.  Which is exactly what my side is based on.  (Well – I am on the Bible’s side, also.)

I don't look into Bush's heart, I look into his policies, his actions and his words and deeds. And they are unChrist like.

According to whom you believe!  Have you actually WITNESSED these ‘atrosities' or are you depending on what others have told you and then using your brain to weed out the truth you personally want to believe?

It appears that you personally don't factor in Christianity as a motive to vote for a president.

I factor in Jesus Christ into every single minute of my life.  If you accuse me of not doing so because you have a different political opinion from mine, then we have no further reason to exchange any kind of communication.  Period.

And I believe Bush is decieving Christians by insinuating he walks the path of CHRIST.

Give us all an eyewitness account of his atrocities.

And that's why I am here to spread unpartisan truth

Impossible.  As I’ve pointed out you cannot take the 'bias' out of partisan.

So if you want unpartisan truth I recommend you check out the site.

I looked at your site and saw the points back and forth, with most going anti conservative.  But it is all someone's opinion.  If a car salesman is selling both Fords and Dodges does that make him nonpartisan?  Sheesh.

Afterall if a politican uses mendacity to spin his interpretations of the 1st and 2nd amendments shouldn't that be a factor in your decision.

It is.

If Bush says Kerry is against the 2nd amendment and that isn't true then wouldn't you want to know that?

I don’t care what ‘Bush says Kerry says’ or what ‘Kerry says Bush says’.  I care about what comes out of the individual's mouth.  Kerry is liberal – he interprets the 1st and 2nd amendment differently than I do.  I have heard his interpretations coming from his own lips.  Is that not good enough for you?  Do you understand what I just typed?  I AM NOT A LIBERAL.  I will never be or vote for a liberal.  Liberals are socialist baby killers. (As I have witnessed - no one told me that - I didn't get it from a website - I have WITNESSED it.)  Am I clear about my opinion?  YOU won’t change my opinion.  My opinion is based on biblical values.  

Because distortions and mendacity are the grist of the GOP mill right now.

I will not defend the GOP or any “party”.

Lastly, you posted:

And what about the innocent Iraqi babies killed by US bombs. Does that matter to you at all?

 
That is a ludicrous, defensive, childish statement that I wish you liberals would quit making – it shows deep ignorance.  It is obvious you would just as soon Saddam was still in power; even though he was killing 30,000 innocent men, women and babies every year.  His death rate almost equaled the ‘Death by Abortion Rate’ in America.  Sheesh.  Which way do you want it?  Do you care about the unborn AND the troops AND the Iraqi civilians or just your politics and getting your boy kerry elected?

1. The truth I am swayed by and blood sworn to defend is The TRUTH. That backed up by facts, not rhetoric, not deception, not distortions, not mendacity.
Just because it may not support your convictions doesn't make it any less true.

2. I have been an eyewitness myself to the deceptions, unfortunately. I have witnessed the unChrist like ways of the Bush adminmistration. I have seen blood in the past and in the future. And for this knowledge I am paying the price.    Truth be told I feel like a dragon slayer who survived yet failed to slay the dragon. Their is no comfort in that type of survival. For I have failed. And when I returned to what appeared from a distance to be the House of God for healing I realized as I grew closer to my destintion that their are many houses built to look like the House of God but inside are only false idols and lost souls. And so my return was met with anger and dare I say hatred. But I promised my Lord I will gladly stand and face the clubs of convictions and arrows of untruth because to do anything less would be a dis-service to the Warriors who have gone before me and The Christ Himself. So here I stand.
And I am sworn to remember the Face of my Father and to do His work, no matter who chooses to be my enemy.
For I must forge a path for the Way, and The Light. Because He is coming.

Hello RichardElchrist,

If you are a part of the new Kerry reach out to Christians campaign, it won't work and it's a waste of time. I think that most of us have seen enough actions and heard enough words from Kerry and Bush to make up our minds. This is not to imply that Bush is a wonderful Christian, but it would imply a void of Biblical morals on the part of Kerry.

I really don't need any spins, commentary, or views from partisan or non-partisan web sites, news agencies, or special interest groups. I've heard and seen more than enough from the candidates themselves. The analogy that Bush may be a wolf in sheep's clothing would go in one ear and out the other. I already know that he is far from being a strong Christian. The analogy that Kerry may be the devil in ACLU's clothing is my personal observation that I didn't need any help with.

If there was a third ticket with more Biblical views I would consider voting for them. I would first be concerned about whether they had a chance of winning, and who would get the benefit of a split vote. If I concluded the third ticket didn't have a chance and Kerry would benefit from a split vote, I would vote for Bush. I would have the same concerns for any existing fourth and fifth tickets.

Most of us have heard the stories of the past so many times that they go in one ear and out the other. Most of us have also heard and seen the political machines for what they are - political machines.

I will listen, with interest, what the candidates themselves say. The same will be true of the candidates actions. I have almost no interest in spin, hype, and the messages of the political machines and news media. I'm sorry to be repetitive - the political machines and news media are spin and hype.

I will pay considerable attention to documented stands of the candidates that I have heard and seen for myself. Abortion will be one of those stands. Someone defending or promoting abortion wouldn't get my vote for dog catcher, much less a vote for President of the United States.

I also paid considerable attention to views on a strong military, and more specifically, providing for the needs of our young men and women serving us. I've heard their words and seen their actions from the candidates themselves. In my completely BIASED opinion, Kerry has no concern for either.

I will and have paid considerable attention to morals and Biblical values. In my completely BIASED opinion, Kerry has none.

If other Christians have opinions as BIASED as mine as, very few Christians will vote for Kerry. Regarding our Armed Services and providing for those who protect our way of life, Kerry serves our enemies. I realize that's my completely BIASED opinion, but that won't change. It's an absolute fact that Kerry voted to send our young men and women to war. It's also an absolute fact that Kerry later voted "NO" to buy supplies our young men and women fighting needed to survive. I saw and heard the spin and lies from his own mouth in trying to explain this. "I actually voted yes but I later voted no." This took my single digit respect for Kerry far into negative numbers. There is no explanation, and I'm not interested in the attempt.

I apologize for being so shy on this matter.

Love In Christ,
Tom

You have mistaken me brother. For I am no follower of any man. I am not Pro Kerry. But I am anti Bush as he is a great deciever and I have weathered a view of a future with him as leader and it is a hellish thing.

The man who was supposed to have lead us was thwarted through evil means by the decievers of the Bush team during the GOP primaries of 2000. And now look at us. Fighting each other while all crumbles around us.

You yourself have admitted that your bias's will guide you. This means you know you are not walking the true path of  the Light of God and yet you appeared to have rationalized it and justified it. Bias's are born of convictions. Convictions are the enemy of truths. Any enemy of truth is enemy of the Word, the Light, the Way.

Would you think the death of 1000 of greater pain then 10?


Baby killers are evil and anyone who supports them , as you are, or in any way,  are also evil.  You seem to support the killing of the unborn wow what  a man! hold you ground guy kill that child. Feel the warm blood run through you fingers, their blood is on your hands.

Yes i get emotional death is an emotional topic.

Reba you are forsaken if you have called me a babykiller which you seem to have. I am not and yet you have called me such. What does that make you? Who's work are you doing if you call someone a murderer and baby killer who is actually in the Light of God doing work to protect the born and unborn equally?  

Your post says more about you then it does me. For I am a chosen defender of The Christ and you have raised your hand to smote me. Have you forgotten the face of your Father?
Your words are an arrow into a heart fighting for Jesus's 2nd coming. Think about that when He walks past you house.
 

I think it's rather interesting that after panning one poster for touting a "biased" source, and emphasizing the "un-biased" nature of his own source, that a simple check reveals the following:

One of four staff members for the Annenberg Foundation (Elchrist's source) is a former staff member of Sen. Edward Kennedy.
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One of four staff members is a former DNC consultant, and has worked on numerous Dem candidate campaigns.

The Annenberg Foundation has many charitable causes it promotes. Among them are:

The NEA
The Feminist Majority
The Center for Social Reform
The Harvard University School for Public Policy
and about 14 more search pages of somewhat questionable groups.

Implicit in the original and subsequent posts, although not clearly stated (let your yeas be yeas...) is that Pres. Bush is not a good candidate to vote for, Kerry is better.

Or would you rather see Nader? or Sharpton? perhaps Hillary?

It would seem that the sole purpose is to degrade support, and split a vote, much as the Dems fear Nader will do to them.

One in four! Wow the Dems are really in the minority in that foundation huh? Thank you very much for helping me prove that this site is not pro dem. You did a great job in that. God Bless ya.
Also please don't assign actions to me I didn't do.
What I simply have done is encourage people to search for the truth. Because you will not find the truth on FOX, CNN, MSNBC or the zillions of partisan websites on both sides out there.
If you read the information on that genuinely bi-partisan site which you have effectively proved, and you allow truth and honesty to guide your hand come Election Day instead of your hand being guided by convictions and mendacity, then I feel I have done the work of our Lord Jesus Christ. Nothing more.
I am doing the Lord's work and trying to save those decieved by the Great Decievers of today's GOP.

Frankly my political hope is that Bush falls from his false grace before election day and John McCain takes his rightful place and becomes the president of our country.

McCain would have been president if Karl Rove didn't lie during the 2000 primaries about McCain. Rove had campaigners lie to voters telling them McCain was Pro choice (he is not) and telling them he fathered a black child out of wedlock (he didn't, but he did adopted a girl of mixed race in order to save her life).

Bush endorsed these lies and so to me is a deciever of decievers.  

RichardElchrist all you have done is harden alot of hearts against Bush. Every site you linked to was partisan to kerry.

Just like when Regan died both Bush and Kerry said, "I will not run an campain ad durning former President Regan funeral."
Guess what, I saw Kerry ads run. Therefore Kerry is not a truthful person in my eyes.

Well Dream you are either not telling the truth about my post or you are confused about it. So allow me to clarify in the name of TRUTH and the LIGHT and the WAY. 3 things you can choose to ignore if you wish to at your own peril.

The Links were all to ONE website. They pointed to mendacities and distortions of the truth by the GOP. I said and reiterate here- the site is TOTALLY nonpartisan. Their are many items on that site that point the finger at the Dems. All you have to do is look. Their are more GOP ones then Dem ones because today's GOP is run by liars, heathens and decievers who call themselves Christians so they can get your votes.  And the Dems are catching up I suppose.

I specifically pointed out GOP falsities because I believe every good Christian needs to know the truth about Bush.  I would do the saem to Kerry if ran on a 'Christian platform'- but he doesn't.
So you can call that site partisan but that doesn't mean it is. You can call the earth flat but that doesn't make it true. And you can throw Galileo in jail because he proved the earth revolves around the sun but that doesn't change the fact that it doesn't.

I urge you to embrace the truth over convictions. For truths are the fruits of heaven. Convictions are the thorns of he**!

Richard is it Christlike to kill the unborn?  I read you as a hipocrite. Because of this quote

And the Dems seem to be following suit although they have a long ways to go to match the unChrist like ways of today's GOP.

You think the democrate have a long wasy to go huh? to be as unChristlike as the republicans. Are you party to the killing of children? your post read as if you are.  

No I certainly am not. That is why I am a man without a party. The FACT is both parties kill babies, some born, some not. Some American, some not. Does that matter to you? The GOP's abortion record is actually worse then the Democrats if you care to look at the facts.  Murder is wrong period! Not just against babies. That's what I believe.
Do you believe that murder is ok as long as it isn't a fetus being murdered?

If a person broke into your home was attacking your family would you use any means to protect them? even if it meant the intruders death? or would you allow your family to die? Don't be a hypocrite.

Um.. you lost me here Reba. Your statement makes no sense. You have accused me of being a hypocrite without justifying why. I can make no sense of your argument. Maybe you are having a bad day. I just don't know what to say. I never said I was pro-abortion (I am not) and I just can't figure out your intention and message in this post I'm quoting.
The bottom line on my argument is that the GOP and the Dems are equally guilty of killing and murder. The Dems tell you the truth about their position, the GOP lies so they can fool you into voting for them.

As i stated abortion is my line in the sand.  

So should I interpret that as an unborn is more worthy then the born? The death of an unborn a greater tragedy then the death of a born baby?

Richard is it Christlike to kill the unborn?  I read you as a hipocrite. Because of this quote

And the Dems seem to be following suit although they have a long ways to go to match the unChrist like ways of today's GOP.

You think the democrate have a long wasy to go huh? to be as unChristlike as the republicans. Are you party to the killing of children? your post read as if you are.  

No I certainly am not. That is why I am a man without a party. The FACT is both parties kill babies, some born, some not. Some American, some not. Does that matter to you? The GOP's abortion record is actually worse then the Democrats if you care to look at the facts.  Murder is wrong period! Not just against babies. That's what I believe.
Do you believe that murder is ok as long as it isn't a fetus being murdered?