I enjoyed the snorting  

you look pretty silly rolling on the floor  

This is no way to  talk to a lady.

LOL!

I have seen a past participle once, but I knew it had passed on and buried it.  

I`m with you Tom!

aw that pic is so precious!

I have a secular wife (of 21+ years).  I have witnessed to her - My current pastor has witnessed to her - she will go to church about twice a year if me and the daughter beg... but she still doesn't believe.  It breaks my heart.

Do any of the rest of you have this circumstance?  How do you deal with it?

I love the title of this thread!  

I know this is the mens thread, but I wanted to share my story with you if it might help any. I have also been married for 21 years, and for many of those years my husband was not a christian, tho at the time I married him he had a powerful walk with Christ. (I made the sad mistake of following my hubby for some time, and our three teens did lots of begging too, and I can testify they helped bring me back)  I do know how very difficult it is, but take heart!

My husband would not go to church with me at all, (once or twice a year sounds wonderful to me!), nor did he want to hear gospel music in our home, every time I tried to play any he would find a excuse to shut it off, nor did he want to  hear much talk about God, he would quickly change the subject.   Honestly  he is a really nice person, I think he could`nt bear those things because he could`nt handle the conviction.  This went on for what seemed like a eternity, until one day the power that is in this scripture began to speak to me..."IF my people which are called by my name will humble themselves and seek my face, then will I hear from heaven..."

I always knew that verse, but I dont think I ever grasped it personally, making a decision I was going to take that promise and do what it said, and expect God to fulfill His part of the promise.  
I get up early so while he was still sleeping I would kneel down and seek God on his behalf, ask God to enter his dreams, his consiousness, his waking moments, to every part of his day...and I didnt even know or see any much sign that God was answering my prayer, because hubby is rather quiet about his thoughts, until one day not too long ago he said I have givin my heart back to God.  Yes there were many days in the midst of this I faltered in frustration, but I stand humbled and amazed at the power God has giving us to stir His heart of compassion and mercy towards us.  I know there were others praying, so I certianly do not want to sound like I am a one man band, but rather want to say prayer is definately the answer!

If I know anything, I`d say  it is best not to  pressure her, but rather simply try to show her Christs love in every thing you say and do, AND your JOY in Him. Theres a whole lot of truth in the little saying "SMILE", it makes people wonder whats going on", and you certianly know something she has`nt realized yet, she is going to find a new love, be happy with her, be happy for her, and as her spiritual leader,  hold her close, together with Him.
You have witnessed to her, so the seed is planted in her heart,  don`t fail to keep watering it with His love AND your prayers. Our God is a prayer answering God!

Those who (attempt to) follow Christ are usually called Christians - little Christs.

So should those who follow Paul be little Pauls?    

 

Rock crushes pedestals  



pours more soap on Crusaders...er little pauls soapbox  

Christ Lives! and it is HE that I will follow, not someone who follows Him.

Well said Gracey!

If I had a family like Raymond – I may have gone postal!!!

LOL! If I had a mother like Raymonds, I could probably make going postal look like a mini trip  

ah fathers...I thought they were supposed to get on our last nerve and jump up and down and stretch it like a rubber band...

k ignore my insanity  

I know no one needs my 5 cents worth, yea i think my thoughts are worth more than two cents  
But I think there are two ways to deal with , sit and stew, or find a way to beat it ...(not suggesting beat dad over the head mind you lol) sorta discovered this little humor tactic by a funny little moment between my hubby and my father...

I have a dad who loves to vent (oh boy does he ever!)...and yes sometimes elderly people, being no different in nature than us need to feel validated too,  but sometimes when you just cant COPE with the ranting, humor does work.

One day my dad is here going over his usual lengthly tirade on ah...should I tell ...ah...on the french...(s`cuse him please)...my hubby is french too which makes it rather humorous...when hubby just speaks up rather loudly but with a grin...YEA JUST KILL EM ALL!...my dads jaw dropped, and he went speechless...well for a minute anyways lol...but it seemed to clear the air so to speak...anyways what i`m trying to say is finding the humor in the middle of stress, can sure defuse sparked nerves.

*runs and hides*

lol thinking that since i knows you, that running and hidin be a good idea hehe,,,
i bet im not alone in needing to vent  at times,, actually i know im not alone on that "novel Idea"  

your not alone, there are more like you?




I be in heap big trouble now  


 

And the number 1 Sign You've Had Too Much Coffee...

YYoouu ssttaarrtt ttyyppiinng lliikkee tthhiiss...

uh oh for me  

"The moral of the story: Even when a man is listening, he is
gonna get it wrong."

but arnt they adorable when they fessin up they aint been listenin to a word you said!

my hubby does a lot of fessin  

Tigerlily get off your sorry butt and do the froggy dance too  



*runs and hides*

Genesis 3:13
And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

According to the original greek and hebrew, this is what beguiled means:

nasha' (naw-shaw'); a primitive root; to lead astray, i.e. (mentally) to delude, or (morally) to seduce: KJV - beguile, deceive, X greatly, X utterly. (Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary.)

Now we read about Paul, talking to the Corinthian church:

2Co 11:3  But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

2Co 11:4  For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or [if] ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with [him].

God's people are being deluged with so much philosophy, human reasoning and convoluted arguments—all designed to "prove" that the clear, pure doctrines found in the Word are wrong, insupportable or foolish. We read or hear  cunning explanations of various beliefs that appeal to our coveted traditions, spiritual laziness or emotions. Are we beguiled or do we reconize these complicated, philosophic reasonings are not His voice?(John 10:3-5).

The teachings of Jesus Christ are so elegantly simple that children can easily understand them. Even such "difficult" topics as justification, sanctification, salvation and others can be explained easily and clearly to those seeking to prove what is right rather than trying to disprove and destroy. (see Acts 17:10-11).

The apostles tried to warn us of these things. Paul gives specific instructions to Timothy (I Timothy 4:1-2; 6:3-5; II Timothy 2:16-18, 23-23; 4:3-4) and Titus (Titus 1:14; 3:9). Peter warns that some would try to twist the words of Paul (II Peter 3:16). John, too, voices his concern (II John 7-11; III John 9-10), as does Jude (3-4, 16-19).

Doctrines do not need to be complex to be true. What is more simple than "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy" (Exodus 20:? Or, "You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind" (Matthew 22:37)? Or, "Whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them" (Matthew 7:12)? These are not complicated concepts. They are simple and pure.

The problem occurs when we try to blend human  "wisdom" and fallible human traditions  with God's truth. Like oil and water, they do not mix. Paul says that the wisdom of God is revealed through His Spirit (I Corinthians 2:10).

He continues:
Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit which is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God. These things we also speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. (verses 12-13)

Simplicity in Christ, simplicity of His word, dont let anyone beguile you into believing you cannot know truth, except it be interpreted by teachers, ministers, priests, or whoever. Listen to the Holy Spirit who is able to teach you all things.

Act 2:14  But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all [ye] that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:
Act 2:15  For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is [but] the third hour of the day.
Act 2:16  But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
Act 2:17  And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh:

So why do you suppose these were thought to be drunken?

These were not "fakes" on the day of Pentecost, and if any choose to fake God`s power, does that make His power any less real? I know it does not.

If slain is the improper terminology does that limit the power of the Holy Ghost?

Also watch you dont blaspheme (to vilify; specifically to speak impiously: defame, rail on, revile, speak evil of) the Holy Ghost  by calling evil something you dont understand, especially the things of the Spirit.

I love the way this writer explains Gods plan of submission:

God's plan for marriage is for two people, to come together, lay aside themselves and seek to meet the needs of their mate. To abandon our own desires, agendas and be willing to get in the skin of another person.
A man must sacrifice himself. A woman must submit herself. Just like we do when we come to Jesus. Lay down our pride. Lay down our self.. Rest our faith and trust in Him.

Submission is a matter of the will. By means of force, you can impose terms of surrender upon someone, but as many prisoners of war will tell you, keeping their will free, even if their body was in bondage, is what kept them alive. In other words, submission is an issue of the heart. Submission demands that our motives, and not only our actions, be in order.

Marriage, in this way, mirrors and reflects our Christianity itself. Jesus asks His followers to not only do what He does, but to love what He loves, and love as He loves. The whole of Christianity is about a humble submission of our individual will to the sovereign will of God. Our faith falters if we are incapable of acknowledging and honoring God's authority over all of our life. Our marriages falter, if we fail to be totally unselfish with regard to our spouses.

Submission is a statement of position, not of value or worth or skill. God was not addressing worth when He set up the rules and roles, God was addressing function! In every partnership, someone has to be the bottom line, the place where the buck stops, the tie-breaker. And in marriage, God gave that function to husbands.

Only a fool of a man (and there are plenty of them) takes that function and uses it to dominate, intimidate, take advantage of and Lord over his wife. And in doing that, a husband proves he has no understanding of what it means to be a godly husband. Submission is not a excuse for dictatorship. I have never met a husband who loves his wife sacrificially, as Christ loves the church, whose wife is not submitted to him.

[BUT] - The Bible clearly makes submission a reflection of a woman's relationship with God. What is left out is the conditions. Oh, we are quick to make those conditions. "I would honor him, IF he ?.. {fill in the blank.}" But the Bible doesn't say submit to your husband IF he is worthy of respect and honor. But the wife's duty to honor and respect her husband's position, is not dependent on how well he performs.
When you took him as your husband, you addressed his worthiness at the altar.

What if a husband is not worthy of respect? What if he is a lousy husband? What if he is not following God's directive to love sacrificially? The Bible addresses that.

1 Peter 3:1-2 You wives should yield to your husbands. Then, if some husbands do not obey God's teaching, they will be persuaded to believe without anyone's saying a word to them. They will be persuaded by the way their wives live. Your husbands will see the pure lives you live with your respect for God.

But let's be clear: this section of Scripture addresses a husband failing to love God or his wife with the commitment and dedication the Bible expects. This verse DOES NOT speak to abusive men or unfaithful husbands. Remember, the power of God's marriage covenant is in intimacy, fidelity and unity. When a husband breaks those marital bonds, with violence, abuse, fear, threats, intimidation or unfaithfulness ? the Bible provides a wife with escape avenues. Nothing in the Bible tells us that God expects a woman to take abuse in the name of submission. That shows a total lack of understanding of Biblical submission.

taken from: http://www.richmondccc.org/yourti16856.html

yea nateycakes!  symphony get off your sorry butt and do the froggy dance