|
Title: John 14:12-14 Post by: cris on January 14, 2005, 12:28:26 PM John: 14:12-14 "Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that believeth on Me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. And whatsoever ye shall ask in My name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If ye shall ask anything in my name, I will do it." What are some examples of 12-14 happening today? Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: Bronzesnake on January 16, 2005, 10:35:57 AM John: 14:12-14 "Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that believeth on Me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. And whatsoever ye shall ask in My name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If ye shall ask anything in my name, I will do it." What are some examples of 12-14 happening today? Jesus' sole purpose was to offer Himself as a sacrifice for all who would accept Him. At the time of His death and resurrection, there were most likly only hundreds of believers. Today there are millions. Bronzesnake Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: cris on January 16, 2005, 11:59:49 AM John: 14:12-14 "Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that believeth on Me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. And whatsoever ye shall ask in My name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If ye shall ask anything in my name, I will do it." What are some examples of 12-14 happening today? Jesus' sole purpose was to offer Himself as a sacrifice for all who would accept Him. At the time of His death and resurrection, there were most likly only hundreds of believers. Today there are millions. Bronzesnake Thanks for your response but I'm not understanding it. What do hundreds of people in the time of Christ, as opposed to millions now, have to do with the question of today's example of "greater works than these shall he do?" Christ IS in us. Shouldn't we be doing these works as He said we'd do? I was looking for the examples. Christ performed miracle after miracle when He walked on this earth. Since He is in us, shouldn't we be following in His footsteps doing same? cris Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: musicllover on January 17, 2005, 12:28:50 AM John: 14:12-14 "Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that believeth on Me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. And whatsoever ye shall ask in My name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If ye shall ask anything in my name, I will do it." What are some examples of 12-14 happening today? Jesus' sole purpose was to offer Himself as a sacrifice for all who would accept Him. At the time of His death and resurrection, there were most likly only hundreds of believers. Today there are millions. Bronzesnake Thanks for your response but I'm not understanding it. What do hundreds of people in the time of Christ, as opposed to millions now, have to do with the question of today's example of "greater works than these shall he do?" Christ IS in us. Shouldn't we be doing these works as He said we'd do? I was looking for the examples. Christ performed miracle after miracle when He walked on this earth. Since He is in us, shouldn't we be following in His footsteps doing same? cris Cris, I believe that we should be about our fathers business, spreading the word, casting our deamons, prophesing, tongues.........., But we are to be wise as well. I'm afraid that I have a split personality when it come believeing some of them. There are so many "well look at me" kind of preachers out there, TV avangalist who claim this and that. Wolves in sheeps clothing. then there is the other side of me that wants to believe, that want to be a part of some great move of God. During a trip with a women group several years ago I witness the hearing being restored to a deaf women in the audiance. I didn't know the women before hand, but several women around me did, each one knew she'd been deaf before she walked into the room, it was an amazing sight, very emotional, she kept praising GOd over and over and over along with several of her friends. Was it real? I don't know, except it was very real that day for everyone there. I have no way of verifing the truth, so what do I do now? Should we even doubt for a moment when there were so many witness stating she had been deaf? What ever the truth is, it must bring glory to the father, and if it is false it falls on the head of the person faking it, and or the person who is perpitrating the healing or what ever. If I believe that it is real, and its not then the guilt falls on the guilty fakers......I believe because I understand this passage to say that miracles are real, and should be done to day, and am very saddened when I have believed and find out later it was faked. A true black mark on the great name of our Lord when people do that. But I sitll believe that miracle do happen, even tho I am half doubting thomas. musicllover Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: cris on January 17, 2005, 10:39:09 PM Musicllover, Well, God can use anyone and anything. What the devil means for evil, God can turn it around for His glory. Actually, I don't know what to think of what's going on in these TV ministries. I would think if they were all false, many more people would be coming forward exposing them. Anyone can say someone is false, but proving it isn't something they do. People do gossip, christian and non christian alike. I also see people starting out on fire for the Lord, and then somewhere along the line, they must, somehow, get contaminated. They are ultimately accountable to God. I can only judge someone if I see and know it myself. I don't watch the TV ministries as much as I used to. However, praise God, when I needed to hear His word preached, I heard it on TV. Those ministries fed me for a long time. They drew me closer to Jesus Christ. I am forever grateful they were there. cris Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: Soldier4Christ on January 17, 2005, 11:39:35 PM Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: Shammu on January 18, 2005, 01:24:13 AM John 14:12-14 "The truth is, anyone who believes in me will do the same works I have done, and even greater works, because I am going to be with the Father. You can ask for anything in my name, and I will do it, because the work of the Son brings glory to the Father. Yes, ask anything in my name, and I will do it!"
Jesus promises that his disciples will do even greater works than he did. And they did!! Jesus is still at work through his disciples. He has specifically told us to use prayer to release his power and bring his blessing. So often we sell ourselves short because we only view things from a fleshly, earthbound perspective. However when we serve and pray in Jesus name, far-out things begin to happen. Jesus does greater things through us than we can imagine, in todays world. Resting in the Lord's arms. Bob Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: musicllover on January 18, 2005, 02:21:01 AM Musicllover, Well, God can use anyone and anything. What the devil means for evil, God can turn it around for His glory. Actually, I don't know what to think of what's going on in these TV ministries. I would think if they were all false, many more people would be coming forward exposing them. Anyone can say someone is false, but proving it isn't something they do. People do gossip, christian and non christian alike. I also see people starting out on fire for the Lord, and then somewhere along the line, they must, somehow, get contaminated. They are ultimately accountable to God. I can only judge someone if I see and know it myself. I don't watch the TV ministries as much as I used to. However, praise God, when I needed to hear His word preached, I heard it on TV. Those ministries fed me for a long time. They drew me closer to Jesus Christ. I am forever grateful they were there. cris Cris, Yes I agree, Its hard to believe that anyone could do greater works that Jesus Christ. I've heard a teaching that this scripture means greater as in more works, not greater as in a better kind of miracle. I can't imagine what kind of miracles could be done today that Jesus didn't do so I have a tendancy to believe that it means greater in quanity not quality. There are some TV/radio Evangalist that are in it for the right reasons, they want to spread the word and minister to the needs of the people, so not all of them are bad. As Bro Tom shared on antoher thread and worth repeating here, if a Preacher can't say Jesus Christ is almight God then we know for sure they are working for the devil. Its up to the chirstians to check out the fruits, so I suppose being a doubitng Thomas isn't all bad, its when we doubt in disbelief and scoff at the power of God that makes it bad. Might be worth starting a thread on any info we have of TV ministers, authors, and others who work in the ministry. Just posting articles and information so it will allow others to do some investigation, at least this will expose those who are in error to the word of God. I've noticed in the last several years that so many Evangalist have fallen, or at least you hear the negative news about them. I loved Jimmy Swaggart until, then Benny Hinn, Jim and Tammy Baker. Some that I listen too and feel like they are right with God, are John MacArthur, James D Kennedy. Dr Dobson, Joyce Myers (heard something while back about her but can't remember what it was). Problem with that is how do we know the articles we read are for real and it not turn into gossip? Anyway back to the origninal thread. Musicllover Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: Reba on January 19, 2005, 02:02:26 PM When Jesus walked the earth there were a few 'Christians' Seems He started with about a dozen... ;) Our numbers have grown over the years grown and grown. The more often the world trys to wipe out His Holy name the stronger we grow.
Hab 2:14 14 For the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea. KJV Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: cris on January 19, 2005, 03:05:53 PM OK, again--------the specifics. Specifics (miracles, healings, etc.) WERE SEEN in the time of Christ, wrought about by Christ Himself or His disciples. Weren't these things the talk of the town? Jesus' teaching and miracles got Him crucified, and the disciples were martyred because they preached Christ and performed miracles. We should be seeing this today, should we not? I mean, the miracles, but guess we can't have miracles without being willing to physically die. It seems to me miracles should be commonplace and not the exception. I understand that our prayers release God's power, more than we can imagine, and that He works through us in things we can't see. I'm not talking about that here, but rather the visible manisfestation of Christ's miracle working power. Somewhere Jesus said something to this effect (I can't remember where or His exact words), if you don't believe Me, then believe the works (or miracle's) you've seen. Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: Shammu on January 19, 2005, 03:12:05 PM OK, again--------the specifics. Specifics (miracles, healings, etc.) WERE SEEN in the time of Christ, wrought about by Christ Himself or His disciples. Weren't these things the talk of the town? Jesus' teaching and miracles got Him crucified, and the disciples were martyred because they preached Christ and performed miracles. We should be seeing this today, should we not? I mean, the miracles, but guess we can't have miracles without being willing to physically die. It seems to me miracles should be commonplace and not the exception. I understand that our prayers release God's power, more than we can imagine, and that He works through us in things we can't see. I'm not talking about that here, but rather the visible manisfestation of Christ's miracle working power. Somewhere Jesus said something to this effect (I can't remember where or His exact words), if you don't believe Me, then believe the works (or miracle's) you've seen. Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: cris on January 19, 2005, 03:30:44 PM OK, again--------the specifics. Specifics (miracles, healings, etc.) WERE SEEN in the time of Christ, wrought about by Christ Himself or His disciples. Weren't these things the talk of the town? Jesus' teaching and miracles got Him crucified, and the disciples were martyred because they preached Christ and performed miracles. We should be seeing this today, should we not? I mean, the miracles, but guess we can't have miracles without being willing to physically die. It seems to me miracles should be commonplace and not the exception. I understand that our prayers release God's power, more than we can imagine, and that He works through us in things we can't see. I'm not talking about that here, but rather the visible manisfestation of Christ's miracle working power. Somewhere Jesus said something to this effect (I can't remember where or His exact words), if you don't believe Me, then believe the works (or miracle's) you've seen. ABSOLUTELY! Some would call it a "gut feeling". It's Christ working in me, cause it's never wrong!! But, DW, that's not what I'm refering to above. I'm talking about miracles that are seen and talked about. Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: Reba on January 19, 2005, 03:49:46 PM Because man thinks the miracles are 'great works' does not mean Jesus was talking miracles. In reading John 13 and 14 it doesn't read as if He is talking of what we call miracles. But talking of loving our brothers. I see also in chapter 15/16 He is talking of the Comforter.
John 16:7 7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. KJV Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: Reba on January 19, 2005, 03:57:38 PM Another thought on ‘greater works’ ….. Inge ( my friend) has had liver transplant surgery… We can spread the Gospel across the world in split seconds… We live longer lives than was lived 2000 years ago…. Leprosy is no longer a problem… polio is not crippling children… Do I thank the Lord for penicillin ? or Dr. Pasture? To me there are many miracles around we just get misdirected in thinking of them as mans achievements.
Off the soapbox for a while maybe…. Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: Shammu on January 19, 2005, 04:03:20 PM Cris, have you ever, since becoming a Christian. Felt you shouldn't go somewhere, or do something? If you have, thats Jesus working through you. Saying, HEY STOP I don't want you hurt. Tuesday, 11 January, 2005 Reports of clusters of icebergs in the deep ocean east of Campbell Island cast a chill over the past couple of summers. Now it seems record-strength southerly winds, which helped produce our coldest December since 1945, could have blown the icebergs nearer to New Zealand. Icebergs up to three kilometres wide were sighted just before Christmas, prompting navigation warnings from the Maritime Safety Authority. The iceberg struck by the Titanic in the North Atlantic in 1912 was estimated at up to 30 metres high and 120m long. But why have icebergs appeared off southern New Zealand now, and is it further evidence of the end of the golden weather? Playwright Bruce Mason set his play of the same name, which evokes a classic New Zealand summer, in the hazy days of the early 1930s, a time when an iceberg was actually seen off the mainland. A Canterbury University study 40 years later noted that the iceberg could be seen by the naked eye off the South Otago coast in 1931. It was spotted floating at a navigational distance of latitude 46 degrees south. Jim Salinger, principal scientist at the National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research (Niwa), says the 1931 sighting was just the second from the coastline last century. In October 1902, big icebergs floating one degree further south were spotted between the Antipodes Islands and the Chatham Islands. In 1948, icebergs were reported a further three degrees south. But Niwa is unable to offer firm explanations for these as proper research of the Antarctic and its surrounds was not undertaken till the establishment of Scott Base a decade later. In 1967, 85 icebergs were sighted from the Japanese whale research ship Chiyoda Maru No 5 at the same latitude as the 1948 cluster. http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3151291a7693,00.html __________________________________________________ 73% of doctors in poll say miracles can happen If anyone believes in miracles, it would probably be the people who see the entire range of human life from birth to death regularly - doctors. So perhaps it's not surprising that an overwhelming majority of physicians say they believe that miracles occur.In a national survey of 1,100 physicians released this week, 74% said they believe that miracles have happened in the past and 73% believe they can occur.Whether it's a terminal patient making a full recovery, someone waking up from a coma or a girl surviving rabies, doctors say they have seen things their scientific background and medical training cannot explain."Sometimes despite what we do or in spite of what we do, people get better, and I think they get better because of the hand of God," said Mushir Hassan, an internal medicine specialist at Elmbrook Memorial Hospital who is Muslim.Carl Olson, a radiation oncologist at Columbia St. Mary's, has treated cancer patients for almost 30 years. He has seen his share of things he can't explain. "If you define a miracle as something that happens beyond scientific and medical explanation, there's no question in my mind there have been events that have happened over my many years as an oncologist that defy explanation," said Olson, who is Protestant.The survey was conducted last weekend by HCD Research and the Louis Finkelstein Institute for Religious and Social Studies of The Jewish Theological Seminary in New York City. Physicians surveyed were Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu and Buddhist. http://www.jsonline.com/alive/news/dec04/286243.asp Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: cris on January 19, 2005, 04:17:26 PM Because man thinks the miracles are 'great works' does not mean Jesus was talking miracles. In reading John 13 and 14 it doesn't read as if He is talking of what we call miracles. But talking of loving our brothers. I see also in chapter 15/16 He is talking of the Comforter. John 16:7 7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. KJV Jesus was saying although He was leaving, the work should not stop. He tells this to his disciples to assure them, to comfort them. "Because" He goes to His father it is imperative that they have the power to do as Christ did (perform miracles, etc.) so Christ's work doesn't suffer. Jesus goes to the Father so He can send the Holy Spirit to imbue them with power to continue the work. He just isn't sending the Holy Spirit to comfort them in His absence. He told them He would be with them through prayer. They could ask for anything in His name and He would do it. We know "anything" is not just "any thing". Anything, as far as I'm concerned is for the glory of God. Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: cris on January 19, 2005, 04:29:03 PM Because man thinks the miracles are 'great works' does not mean Jesus was talking miracles. In reading John 13 and 14 it doesn't read as if He is talking of what we call miracles. But talking of loving our brothers. I see also in chapter 15/16 He is talking of the Comforter. John 16:7 7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. KJV Reba, I believe He WAS talking about miracles and also comforting his disciples. Jesus was assuring them that, even though He was leaving, they could carry on His work and do greater miracles than He did, because He was sending them the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, to empower them to do it. Remember the day of Pentecost? They were amazed!! Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: musicllover on January 20, 2005, 12:33:26 AM Cris,
I think I understand what you are asking, a miracle- An intervention in the natural universe by God (Bible refrence companion), your asking about a supernatural happening, such as the healing of the blind man, parting of the red sea, people being raised from the dead. The conversion of saul, The miracle that Christ himself performed, your asking why aren't we seeing them today, what has happened to miracle? I shared with you when a women was healed of deafness, and heard testimonies of miracles occuring from people who I know personally that are missionaries in the Phillipines. I don't want to be like in the days of demanding a sign either. But is sure is exciting when a miracles occurs. I am literally praying for a miracle for me home. Maybe we as a people have gotten so far away from what God intended he can't perfom his miracles any more. I wonder if there is a lull in the times of miralce to allow the "setting up" of the world for the end times. I dont' really know just wondering too. musicllover Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: cris on January 20, 2005, 05:31:30 PM Cris, I think I understand what you are asking, a miracle- An intervention in the natural universe by God (Bible refrence companion), your asking about a supernatural happening, such as the healing of the blind man, parting of the red sea, people being raised from the dead. The conversion of saul, The miracle that Christ himself performed, your asking why aren't we seeing them today, what has happened to miracle? I shared with you when a women was healed of deafness, and heard testimonies of miracles occuring from people who I know personally that are missionaries in the Phillipines. I don't want to be like in the days of demanding a sign either. But is sure is exciting when a miracles occurs. I am literally praying for a miracle for me home. Maybe we as a people have gotten so far away from what God intended he can't perfom his miracles any more. I wonder if there is a lull in the times of miralce to allow the "setting up" of the world for the end times. I dont' really know just wondering too. musicllover OKAY! WHEW! What did I say that wasn't clear, or, how else could I have phrased it? Glad you got it musicllover. That was exactly what I meant. Yes, I remember you sharing your experience with miracles. I just don't think there are enough of them. Seems to me they should be more commonplace. It's not God's fault there aren't more of them. It's ours. From what I've heard, miracles are far more prevalent in third world countries. I would guess that's because when they hear about Jesus Christ for the first time, they BELIEVE. They do become like little children as the bible tells us we must. I wonder about the same things you mentioned, too. I HOPE YOU GET YOUR MIRACLE. Father God, I just lift up my sister, musicllover to You. Oh, Lord God, hear her prayer to You and perform that miracle. Father, bless her whole family. Reveal Yourself to them in a way that they cannot ever doubt. Send Your angels to do battle for musicllover. Send Your angels to protect her and her home, in the name of Jesus Christ, I pray. Amen. cris Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: Shammu on January 20, 2005, 05:45:31 PM Well, I recieved a miracle, last night!! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/DreamWeaver000/whoo.gif) I went to turn on the TV, this afternoon, and got BLASTED OUT!!!!!!!!!
Normally I have the TV on 55,(volume) to hear it. I had to turn it down to 30 this afternoon. I can hear my cats!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/DreamWeaver000/lalala.gif) I have been deaf, for so long, it's funny. Right now I am crying, because I haven't hears things I am, hearing. Now I know, I am resting in the Lord's arms! Bob Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: musicllover on January 20, 2005, 06:07:51 PM Well, I recieved a miracle, last night!! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/DreamWeaver000/whoo.gif) I went to turn on the TV, this afternoon, and got BLASTED OUT!!!!!!!!! Bob, !!!!!!!!!!Normally I have the TV on 55,(volume) to hear it. I had to turn it down to 30 this afternoon. I can hear my cats!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/DreamWeaver000/lalala.gif) I have been deaf, for so long, it's funny. Right now I am crying, because I haven't hears things I am, hearing. Now I know, I am resting in the Lord's arms! Bob ALL glory and honor to GOd, Praise the LORD. THat is so neat. God is great, God is good. ..... ;D keeping sharing and believing musicllover Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: musicllover on January 20, 2005, 06:15:14 PM Cris, I think I understand what you are asking, a miracle- An intervention in the natural universe by God (Bible refrence companion), your asking about a supernatural happening, such as the healing of the blind man, parting of the red sea, people being raised from the dead. The conversion of saul, The miracle that Christ himself performed, your asking why aren't we seeing them today, what has happened to miracle? I shared with you when a women was healed of deafness, and heard testimonies of miracles occuring from people who I know personally that are missionaries in the Phillipines. I don't want to be like in the days of demanding a sign either. But is sure is exciting when a miracles occurs. I am literally praying for a miracle for me home. Maybe we as a people have gotten so far away from what God intended he can't perfom his miracles any more. I wonder if there is a lull in the times of miralce to allow the "setting up" of the world for the end times. I dont' really know just wondering too. musicllover OKAY! WHEW! What did I say that wasn't clear, or, how else could I have phrased it? Glad you got it musicllover. That was exactly what I meant. Yes, I remember you sharing your experience with miracles. I just don't think there are enough of them. Seems to me they should be more commonplace. It's not God's fault there aren't more of them. It's ours. From what I've heard, miracles are far more prevalent in third world countries. I would guess that's because when they hear about Jesus Christ for the first time, they BELIEVE. They do become like little children as the bible tells us we must. I wonder about the same things you mentioned, too. I HOPE YOU GET YOUR MIRACLE. Father God, I just lift up my sister, musicllover to You. Oh, Lord God, hear her prayer to You and perform that miracle. Father, bless her whole family. Reveal Yourself to them in a way that they cannot ever doubt. Send Your angels to do battle for musicllover. Send Your angels to protect her and her home, in the name of Jesus Christ, I pray. Amen. cris I am sure the lack of miracle is the result of peoples doubt and disbelief. Our lack of obedience to the word, abortion, and gay rights.......among a milliion other acts of rebellion. It all affects us as a nation. Part of the apostesy of the church I suppose, but I'm not one of them. I would give my eye teeth to see a miracle or be a part of a mircale, except my teeth go in cup everynight so guess that isn't a fair exchange..... :P. I don't want a sign I just want to be privalaged enough to be where God is acting in a super natural way. It does seem like miracles occur in 3 world countries more than they do in USA, but we are such skeptics, and proud, doubters that it makes it hard for God to do what he really wants to do. Thanks you for your prayer, thank God that he heard it too. musicllover Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: Reba on January 20, 2005, 06:21:05 PM Well, I recieved a miracle, last night!! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/DreamWeaver000/whoo.gif) I went to turn on the TV, this afternoon, and got BLASTED OUT!!!!!!!!! [size=10]Wonderfull now we wont have to post so LOUD[/size]Normally I have the TV on 55,(volume) to hear it. I had to turn it down to 30 this afternoon. I can hear my cats!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/DreamWeaver000/lalala.gif) I have been deaf, for so long, it's funny. Right now I am crying, because I haven't hears things I am, hearing. Now I know, I am resting in the Lord's arms! Bob SHhhhhh Wonderfull now we wont have to post so LOUD God is wonderfull always... Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: cris on January 20, 2005, 07:13:18 PM Well, I recieved a miracle, last night!! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/DreamWeaver000/whoo.gif) I went to turn on the TV, this afternoon, and got BLASTED OUT!!!!!!!!! Bob, !!!!!!!!!!Normally I have the TV on 55,(volume) to hear it. I had to turn it down to 30 this afternoon. I can hear my cats!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/DreamWeaver000/lalala.gif) I have been deaf, for so long, it's funny. Right now I am crying, because I haven't hears things I am, hearing. Now I know, I am resting in the Lord's arms! Bob ALL glory and honor to GOd, Praise the LORD. THat is so neat. God is great, God is good. ..... ;D keeping sharing and believing musicllover Dreamweaver, I'm crying with ya buddy. I'm absolutely thrilled for you. Tell us more about it. Were you praying for a miracle? You cannot believe how excited I am for you. Oh, praise God. Oh, thank you Lord God for bringing back DW's hearing. I feel like jumping up and down, a yellin' and a screamin' thank you's to the Lord. I could not be any more thrilled if it happened to me. I am just so very HAPPY to hear this, well, I mean, SEE this. You know what I mean. Even though I don't know you, nor have I ever seen you, I trust you are speaking the truth, so, I believe you. Oh Happy Day! I wish I could spell all the sounds I'm making. They're all good ones. ;D Thank You Father God for touching and healing DW's hearing. Is this our 1st CU bonafide miracle? Gotta go, can't take it anymore. I'm just so excited. What an awesome God we serve!!! He's the same, yesterday, today and tomorrow. He's still in the miracle business. Yeah!! cris Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: Reba on January 20, 2005, 07:22:15 PM Salvation is a miracle!
Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: cris on January 20, 2005, 07:22:47 PM Well, I recieved a miracle, last night!! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/DreamWeaver000/whoo.gif) I went to turn on the TV, this afternoon, and got BLASTED OUT!!!!!!!!! [size=10]Wonderfull now we wont have to post so LOUD[/size]Normally I have the TV on 55,(volume) to hear it. I had to turn it down to 30 this afternoon. I can hear my cats!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/DreamWeaver000/lalala.gif) I have been deaf, for so long, it's funny. Right now I am crying, because I haven't hears things I am, hearing. Now I know, I am resting in the Lord's arms! Bob SHhhhhh Wonderfull now we wont have to post so LOUD God is wonderfull always... That was a HOOT, Reba. Oh, sorry. I forgot to SHhhh! Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: cris on January 20, 2005, 07:26:26 PM Salvation is a miracle! Amen, Reba! Salvation is the GREATEST miracle. Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: Soldier4Christ on January 20, 2005, 08:13:22 PM Praise God for His wonderful mercies!
Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: Shammu on January 20, 2005, 09:36:34 PM Thank you everyone, believe it or not. I am still crying, I never asked to have hearing. I just accepted it, as it is/was apart of me. I am still praising God, in all his Glory. This is a gift I never expected, I know God in his Glory, has rewarded me, with my hearing.
Mark 7:37 People were overwhelmed with amazement. “He has done everything well,” they said. “He even makes the deaf hear and the mute speak.” This takes on new meaning for me! Bob Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: Kris777 on January 20, 2005, 09:40:35 PM DreamWeaver that is wonderful! How much of your hearing would you say that you have? Just wondering. Any improvement is good. :)
Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: Shammu on January 20, 2005, 10:13:04 PM DreamWeaver that is wonderful! How much of your hearing would you say that you have? Just wondering. Any improvement is good. :) I would say more then 50%. I have a doctors appointment tomorrow morning. :D I will know more tommorrow, and let everyone know. I don't have my hearing aids in, and can hear!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :DYes I am happy, more happy then I can discribe!!!!!!!!!!!! Mark 7:37 People were overwhelmed with amazement. “He has done everything well,” they said. “He even makes the deaf hear and the mute speak.” Bob Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: Reba on January 20, 2005, 10:33:22 PM DreamWeaver that is wonderful! How much of your hearing would you say that you have? Just wondering. Any improvement is good. :) I would say more then 50%. I have a doctors appointment tomorrow morning. :D I will know more tommorrow, and let everyone know. I don't have my hearing aids in, and can hear!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :DYes I am happy, more happy then I can discribe!!!!!!!!!!!! Mark 7:37 People were overwhelmed with amazement. “He has done everything well,” they said. “He even makes the deaf hear and the mute speak.” Bob Then you haven't heard me sing..... :-X God is good :) Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: Shammu on January 20, 2005, 10:40:30 PM DreamWeaver that is wonderful! How much of your hearing would you say that you have? Just wondering. Any improvement is good. :) I would say more then 50%. I have a doctors appointment tomorrow morning. :D I will know more tommorrow, and let everyone know. I don't have my hearing aids in, and can hear!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :DYes I am happy, more happy then I can discribe!!!!!!!!!!!! Mark 7:37 People were overwhelmed with amazement. “He has done everything well,” they said. “He even makes the deaf hear and the mute speak.” Bob Then you haven't heard me sing..... :-X God is good :) God is GREAT!!!!!! Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: Soldier4Christ on January 20, 2005, 10:42:47 PM God knows the desires of the heart.
God is wonderful, marvelous, the greatest! Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: Shammu on January 20, 2005, 10:46:03 PM God knows the desires of the heart. [size=22]AMEN!!!![/size][/center]God is wonderful, marvelous, the greatest! Mark 7:37 People were overwhelmed with amazement. “He has done everything well,” they said. “He even makes the deaf hear and the mute speak.” Bob Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: nChrist on January 20, 2005, 11:09:04 PM Dreamweaver,
Brother Bob, WOW BROTHER!!! I will give thanks. GOD Will bless and heal who HE Will. I know that I just told you this in a PM, but you should plan some fun with your doctor in the morning. :D Love In Christ, Tom Psalms 34:8 O taste and see that the LORD is good: blessed is the man that trusteth in him. Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: Kris777 on January 20, 2005, 11:43:01 PM DreamWeaver that is wonderful! How much of your hearing would you say that you have? Just wondering. Any improvement is good. :) I would say more then 50%. I have a doctors appointment tomorrow morning. :D I will know more tommorrow, and let everyone know. I don't have my hearing aids in, and can hear!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :DYes I am happy, more happy then I can discribe!!!!!!!!!!!! Mark 7:37 People were overwhelmed with amazement. “He has done everything well,” they said. “He even makes the deaf hear and the mute speak.” Bob Then you haven't heard me sing..... :-X God is good :) God is GREAT!!!!!! Hey Reba I was just thinking the same thing about singing. We are going to have to sing for Bob. Let me get out my spray..humm,humm. hack hack. Me me me me MEEEEE. DreamWeaver do you like opera? Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: Shammu on January 21, 2005, 12:19:14 AM DreamWeaver that is wonderful! How much of your hearing would you say that you have? Just wondering. Any improvement is good. :) I would say more then 50%. I have a doctors appointment tomorrow morning. :D I will know more tommorrow, and let everyone know. I don't have my hearing aids in, and can hear!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :DYes I am happy, more happy then I can discribe!!!!!!!!!!!! Mark 7:37 People were overwhelmed with amazement. “He has done everything well,” they said. “He even makes the deaf hear and the mute speak.” Bob Then you haven't heard me sing..... :-X God is good :) God is GREAT!!!!!! Hey Reba I was just thinking the same thing about singing. We are going to have to sing for Bob. Let me get out my spray..humm,humm. hack hack. Me me me me MEEEEE. DreamWeaver do you like opera? Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: Bronzesnake on January 21, 2005, 12:25:33 AM Well, I recieved a miracle, last night!! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/DreamWeaver000/whoo.gif) I went to turn on the TV, this afternoon, and got BLASTED OUT!!!!!!!!! Normally I have the TV on 55,(volume) to hear it. I had to turn it down to 30 this afternoon. I can hear my cats!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/DreamWeaver000/lalala.gif) I have been deaf, for so long, it's funny. Right now I am crying, because I haven't hears things I am, hearing. Now I know, I am resting in the Lord's arms! Bob What's that you say??? :D Great stuff buddy!! I'm shedding as well :'( Thank you Jesus!!!!!!!!! Bronzesnake Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: Kris777 on January 21, 2005, 12:34:22 AM Believe me, you're not missing out on anything then, in the opera department. It's like screaming. You wouldn't need a hearing aid for that, even if you were still deaf.
Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: musicllover on January 21, 2005, 12:45:27 AM Dream,
Just keep thanking him, we all thank him, THIS is so exciting, here I posted about being privalaged enough to be present when a miralce was happening and I kinda am in a way.....make me feel so good, and so excited for you too. I would get a good head set and listen to praise songs, scriputre readings and just keep filling yourself up on things of God. keep on praising......(like I have to remind you of that) Jesus is so sweet, musicllover Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: Shammu on January 21, 2005, 12:47:13 AM Well, I recieved a miracle, last night!! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/DreamWeaver000/whoo.gif) I went to turn on the TV, this afternoon, and got BLASTED OUT!!!!!!!!! Normally I have the TV on 55,(volume) to hear it. I had to turn it down to 30 this afternoon. I can hear my cats!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/DreamWeaver000/lalala.gif) I have been deaf, for so long, it's funny. Right now I am crying, because I haven't hears things I am, hearing. Now I know, I am resting in the Lord's arms! Bob What's that you say??? :D Great stuff buddy!! I'm shedding as well :'( Thank you Jesus!!!!!!!!! Bronzesnake Believe me, you're not missing out on anything then, in the opera department. It's like screaming. You wouldn't need a hearing aid for that, even if you were still deaf. :PMark 7:37 People were overwhelmed with amazement. “He has done everything well,” they said. “He even makes the deaf hear and the mute speak.” Bob Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: asaph on January 21, 2005, 03:49:22 AM Can I jump in? I have been healed at times miraculously since I became a believer. At age 21 I began to lose alot of hair by the handfull. I was scared but I prayed and the next few days I began to see hundreds if hair follacles pop up. Twenty seven years later I still have a full head of hair and baldness runs in my family. Also I once had a hernia and could barely walk with the pain and all. I was out of work and could not afford a doctor so I knelt at my bedside one night and prayed God to heal me. The next morning I woke up completely healed.
I was saved before my brother Steve was. I prayed for Him some wimpy prayers, I really had a hard time believing that God could save him. One night I was sitting in my trailer getting ready to go to bed and there was a knock on my door. It was Steve. This was in 1976. There he stood with tears in his eyes and all he could say was "I gave my heart to Jesus!" I stood there in disbelief as he told me his story. Unbeknownst to me his wife had left him recently for another man and it devastated him. He decided that night (the night he was standing at my door) to commit suicide. He was driving an old beater 62 blue Ford half ton pickup down the road high on pot and beer. He decided he would drive off the road. But at the moment he was going to do it he cried out these very words "Jesus help me!." At that moment a rush went through his body and he was completely sober. He said he threw his grass out the window and drove straight to my place full of joy and crying at the same time. I was still in dis belief. I really did not trust what I was seeing. I was attending bible camp meetings at Warm Beach Washington at that time each night so I invited him to come the next night. He said he would be there. The next night I was there and sat in the back hoping to see him come in. I did'nt see him the whole service. At the end there was an alter call for people to come forward. To my amazement Steve was among them with hands lifted up and songs of praise coming out of his mouth, he even spake with tongues. Since then he has been strong in the Lord and has a wonderful wife and three kids too boot. I believe this last miracle of Steve coming and continueing in Christ was the greater works that Jesus was talking about. asaph Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: asaph on January 21, 2005, 04:04:03 AM some more miracles:
My sister came to Christ through my wimpy prayers. I used to take her two young daughters to Sunday School and Wednesday night childrens ministries. They got saved in a hurry. They were at the time 3 and 5 years old. They would talk to there mom and dad about Jesus all the time. It had a real impact on my sister. When her husband left her for another man she was totally taken back. She told me she began to call on Jesus frequently and decided to take her girls to church herself. She eventually married and now has 6 more kids that are all in the kingdom. Hallelujah! These are the greater works that Jesus talks about. How can you beat the miracle of regeneration. Just think, a person actually becomes one spirit with the Triune God! Even wimpy prayers and little acts of faith mean something great in God's Kingdom! asaph Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: musicllover on January 21, 2005, 09:30:43 AM This is a great story of God's working power. God is so good God is so good God is so good to me..... and he is working in your family in a big way........that give me an added measrue of hope for mine.
thanks for sharing, musicllover Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: Shammu on January 21, 2005, 11:02:39 AM Well, I'm off to the doc's office. I'll let you all know what he says, when I get back.
Mark 7:37 People were overwhelmed with amazement. “He has done everything well,” they said. “He even makes the deaf hear and the mute speak.” Bob Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: Shammu on January 21, 2005, 02:46:06 PM My doctor didn't believe me on the phone. I had a great witnessing tool to use on him today. He now believes in miracles. He is also coming to Church with me Sunday. :)
Bob Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: Soldier4Christ on January 21, 2005, 02:47:48 PM There are not enough Praises for this!
Praise God. Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: cris on January 21, 2005, 08:35:12 PM My doctor didn't believe me on the phone. I had a great witnessing tool to use on him today. He now believes in miracles. He is also coming to Church with me Sunday. :) Bob Is this not another miracle-----------your Doc going to church with ya on Sunday? The Lord really has plans for you DW! I'm still so very excited for you DreamWeaver. There was so much rejoicing for you on the board last evening, I thought it would continue on. I'm still rejoicing with you, brother! I just can't stop thinking about your miracle. MIRACLES have been the topic of this thread!!! No coincidence, I'm sure! God is great and He's still in the miracle working business! You are proof! Hey DW, don't forget to mark yesterdays date in your bible, 1/20/05. :) Grace and peace, cris Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: musicllover on January 21, 2005, 10:56:21 PM My doctor didn't believe me on the phone. I had a great witnessing tool to use on him today. He now believes in miracles. He is also coming to Church with me Sunday. :) Bob,Bob well, you know the old saying when it rains it pours....This is another miracle, Your doctor gets to see for himself the working power of God, and you get to hear it all......Praises, Glory and Honor. musicllover Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: Shammu on January 21, 2005, 11:31:43 PM I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm tired. I have been outside 90% of the day. I've heard birds chirp, cattle moo, my cats meow, and dogs bark. I am exuasted. This is so new to me, I feel like a child, in a candy store.
Most of all, I am happy for my doctor coming to church with me. I have a range of emotions right now, I can't explain what I am feeling. Outside of my praising of the Lord, I'm happy but, crying, and I don't know why. I am heading off to bed, cause I am exausted. I will see you all tommorrow, or after midnight. Mark 7:37 People were overwhelmed with amazement. “He has done everything well,” they said. “He even makes the deaf hear and the mute speak.” Bob Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: asaph on January 22, 2005, 03:05:09 AM I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm tired. I have been outside 90% of the day. I've heard birds chirp, cattle moo, my cats meow, and dogs bark. I am exuasted. This is so new to me, I feel like a child, in a candy store. Psalm 57Most of all, I am happy for my doctor coming to church with me. I have a range of emotions right now, I can't explain what I am feeling. Outside of my praising of the Lord, I'm happy but, crying, and I don't know why. I am heading off to bed, cause I am exausted. I will see you all tommorrow, or after midnight. Mark 7:37 People were overwhelmed with amazement. “He has done everything well,” they said. “He even makes the deaf hear and the mute speak.” Bob 7My heart is fixed, O God, my heart is fixed: I will sing and give praise. asaph Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: Reba on January 22, 2005, 10:52:15 AM DW,
Was it to noisey to sleep? ;D There are miracles around us each day, I dont think i made myself clear in the first posts. With the wonder of DW we can see the far reaching hand of God. Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: cris on January 22, 2005, 11:42:54 AM I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm tired. I have been outside 90% of the day. I've heard birds chirp, cattle moo, my cats meow, and dogs bark. I am exuasted. This is so new to me, I feel like a child, in a candy store. Most of all, I am happy for my doctor coming to church with me. I have a range of emotions right now, I can't explain what I am feeling. Outside of my praising of the Lord, I'm happy but, crying, and I don't know why. I am heading off to bed, cause I am exausted. I will see you all tommorrow, or after midnight. Mark 7:37 People were overwhelmed with amazement. “He has done everything well,” they said. “He even makes the deaf hear and the mute speak.” Bob Good morning DreamWeaver :) Hope you slept well. Did you dream of sounds? The sounds you heard yesterday? When I woke up this morning, first thing I thought about was your miracle. Oh, praise God! You said you were crying and didn't know why. My goodness, this is a hugh emotional thing that's happened to you. I'd be crying, too. Our precious Lord touched you in a miraculous way. All I can think of is how you must be feeling about the "wonder" of sound. Now, guess what you have to look forward to hearing-------crickets, yes, I said crickets. You'll be trying to fall asleep late one summer evening, and ONE of those little (loud) critters will plop itself on the ground just under your window. I like the sound "crickets" make, but don't like hearing just ONE of them. ;D Since the power of God touched you, you'll probably be able to tell that little critter to leave and it will. ;) I'm still rejoicing with you. Just can't help it! Our God is an Awesome God. Oh Happy Day. Amazing Grace!!! Grace and peace and joy, cris Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: Bronzesnake on January 22, 2005, 12:03:55 PM Amen Dreamweaver my brother, Amen!!!
Bronzesnake Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: Shammu on January 22, 2005, 01:46:52 PM Yes I heard sounds last night, Reba, cris, what a wonderful thing. I have been missing all these years. I didn't sleep that well, I kept waking up to sounds. So I had to investage, the sounds I heard. My one cat sleeps on the pillow with me. I had to move her off the pillow, she ws purring. This is going to take a little time for me, to get use to. In the mean time, I am heading outside to hear, the sounds of nature.
Praise God, in the highest, for he is worthy. Bob Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: nChrist on January 22, 2005, 03:31:47 PM Dreamweaver,
My Brother, welcome to the hearing world! All Praise, Glory, and Honor to GOD! Love In Christ, Tom Psalms 104:34 My meditation of him shall be sweet: I will be glad in the LORD. Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: Reba on January 22, 2005, 04:44:49 PM Yes I heard sounds last night, Reba, cris, what a wonderful thing. I have been missing all these years. I didn't sleep that well, I kept waking up to sounds. So I had to investage, the sounds I heard. My one cat sleeps on the pillow with me. I had to move her off the pillow, she ws purring. This is going to take a little time for me, to get use to. In the mean time, I am heading outside to hear, the sounds of nature. Praise God, in the highest, for he is worthy. Bob DW, One little part of me prays you never sleep well again! ;) hehe I wish to hear more about your doctor. Salvation is the real miracle. Way to often those of us who 'hear' dont! I will now remember you to the Throne when i hear a cat purr....Shh Shh Shh Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: Shammu on January 22, 2005, 07:17:47 PM Dreamweaver, Brother Tom, My Brother, welcome to the hearing world! All Praise, Glory, and Honor to GOD! Love In Christ, Tom Psalms 104:34 My meditation of him shall be sweet: I will be glad in the LORD. You should hear my Praise of the Lord. No one at my Church knows yet. I will let them know tommorrow morning. ;D This should be GREAT telling them all! DW, ;DOne little part of me prays you never sleep well again! ;) hehe I wish to hear more about your doctor. Salvation is the real miracle. Way to often those of us who 'hear' dont! I will now remember you to the Throne when i hear a cat purr....Shh Shh Shh Who has a great love for us, then the Lord does. No one but, Jesus Christ. Bob Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: Shammu on January 23, 2005, 05:53:10 PM Well at Chruch today, I let everyone know. You should have heard the shouting and praising, for the Lord. My doctor was there with me. He needs, a little bit more time "to figure this out." I will be working on him this week. :D I believe that he is close, after today.
I will be showing him historical facts, that have happened, and facts to come. And are coming, faster it looks like. Yes I still feel like a kid, in a candy store. ;D Resting peacfully, in the Lords arms. Bob Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: cris on January 24, 2005, 03:32:32 PM Hello---------you kid in a candy store!! Have there been any other sounds you've heard for the first time? Come on---share them with us, DW. Are you sleeping a little better or are sounds still waking you? You just might find yourself plugging up your ears at bedtime with some of those gummy bears from the candy store. ;D Bet ya never thought that would happen! Still praising and thanking God for your wonderful miracle! Grace and peace, cris Title: Re:John 14:12-14 Post by: Shammu on January 24, 2005, 03:50:14 PM Hello---------you kid in a candy store!! Have there been any other sounds you've heard for the first time? Come on---share them with us, DW. Are you sleeping a little better or are sounds still waking you? You just might find yourself plugging up your ears at bedtime with some of those gummy bears from the candy store. ;D Bet ya never thought that would happen! Still praising and thanking God for your wonderful miracle! Grace and peace, cris Or the sound that fire makes? Or the sound, of a car out of tune? Theres a bunch of sounds I am trying to figure out what, they are. Last night I slept fairly well, I have to try to ignore some sounds. But you know what? It's worth it! Resting in the Lord's arms. Bob |