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Ha ! It may be that on this forum we've been doing some Hal bashing for being to uhm, well we all know how and what...

But even (t)his view has been rejected by TBN by now because of the Pro-Israel and Pro-Prophecy views...  

*/ TBN might replace his IIB broadcast with some 'Xian' powerlifting.... /*


The time is at hand ppl...  when people like Hal are being rejected because of their *affinity* with the Truth.
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**URGENT PERSONAL MESSAGE from Hal Lindsey** - ( Folks, Hal is largely responsible for inspiring me to start Prophecy Update and I consider him a friend and a mentor. Please keep Hal and his ministry in your prayers!)

TBN Suspends IIB

While on my recent thrilling tour to Israel, I received a distinct warning from the Lord. This warning came at just the time the Lord was making me fully aware of the exponential increase in outreach my International Intelligence Briefing program on TBN has experienced in just this year.

Emails from all over the world continuously inform me of the people who regularly watch the IIB program. They share how many of their friends came to faith in Christ as a result of watching it. Several shared how they gather a group each week in their homes to watch the IIB program. Two different missionaries in Kenya said that they did this. Both reported that a number of young people have accepted Christ in these sessions.

Tourists, not only on my tour but also on many other tours in Israel, repeatedly stopped me to say that God has blessed them through IIB. He has used the program to make them aware of the certainty of prophecy and the soon coming of Christ. It has helped them to understand the complex perils that face our world today. Many Jews both in this and other countries also watch the program regularly.

I am continually stopped wherever I go by people who tell me the same things. And many who are not Christians (yet) watch the IIB show regularly. They say that they find the news reports to be unique and eye-opening by revealing information that other news sources either choose not to report – or are afraid to report.

It was in this light that God prompted me while in Jerusalem that Satan was going to attack my IIB ministry and me personally. I shared this with my wife and related my past experiences with Satan's attacks at just the time God has used me most. So we prepared for spiritual warfare.

This warning proved to be accurate immediately after my return to the US. The International Intelligence Briefing has been removed from the air on TBN for the entire month of December (and perhaps never to be broadcast again?). Some at the network apparently feel that my message is too pro-Israel and too anti-Muslim. This is confusing to me because my message is the same as it has been for the entire twelve years of presenting the IIB program. It has not changed one iota.

The program this week addressed the tremendous political upheaval in Israel – including the toppling of the government – in the wake of the Gaza withdrawals. It warned about the peril the US faces if we pull out of Iraq and leave the perception that radical Islamic terrorists defeated the worlds only superpower.. A unique and dynamic exclusive interview that I was fortunate enough to conduct with Binyamin Netanyahu while in Jerusalem was also rejected from being aired on this week's show.

The feeling must be that honestly reporting news on current issues concerning radical Islam is thwarting evangelism to Muslims at large, particularly Palestinians. I personally believe that both Christian Palestinians and moderate Muslims – who are being intimidated and persecuted by the radicals – actually welcome honest reporting on the situation.

The question I am compelled to ask is, "If we don't tell the world the truth, then who will?" The government won't. The mainstream media won't. Foreign powers won't. Al-Jazeera won't. Of course, there can and will always be disagreements about style and aesthetics in programming. But I can't understand how any Christian that is aware of the dangers radical Islam poses to our nation, Christians worldwide and the nation of Israel can issue a mandate to soft-peddle the truth about it.

Not only do Christians need to hear the truth, but also nations and their leaders need to hear. Young people who are being seduced by our liberal anti-God Universities and the media into believing lies need to hear the unvarnished truth. The prevailing ignorance about Fundamental Islam also affects our ability to resist Satan's attacks and our ability to effectively share Christ with those who are deceived by Islam. Our ability to intercede wisely for our nation, our families and Israel are all based on our access to accurate information. And that's the kind of information I have conscientiously and prayerfully sought to disseminate through the Holy Spirit's power over the International Intelligence Briefing for the past twelve years.

As the Bible predicted would happen in the days just before Christ's return, Israel is hated by almost the entire world. I believe there never has been a time when Christians need to support Israel's right to exist within secure borders more than now. God has vowed, "He will bless those who bless Israel and curse those who curse her." Not standing with Israel against her avid enemies today is like being silent when the NAZIS took the Jews and exterminated them in their death camps. This I cannot and will not do.

This concern has been at the center of my message from the beginning of my prophetic ministry 47 years ago. Israel is God's timepiece. If you want to know what time it is on God's prophetic clock, watch what He is doing with Israel. The Bible's prophetic scenario indicates that Israel is near its date with destiny. God also warns the nations surrounding Israel that they are going to be catastrophically judged for seeking to thwart His predicted will to restore Israel to its ancient homeland that was once and for all given to them by His Divine oath.

Ezekiel directly predicted the situation we see in the Land of Israel today. And he warned the 'surrounding nations', which are all Muslim today. This is what he predicted, "Therefore thus says the Lord God, 'Surely in the fire of My jealousy I have spoken against the rest of the nations, and against all Edom (Arab people), who appropriated My land for themselves as a possession with wholehearted joy and with scorn of soul, to drive it out for a prey. Therefore prophesy concerning the land of Israel and say to the mountains and to the hills, to the ravines and to the valleys, 'Thus says the Lord God, Behold, I have spoken in My jealousy and in My wrath because you have endured the insults of the nations.' Therefore thus says the Lord God, 'I have sworn that surely the nations which are around you will themselves endure their insults. But you, O mountains of Israel, you will put forth your branches and bear your fruit for My people Israel; for they will soon come.'" (Ezekiel 36:5-8 NAS) Israel has come home and the desolate land has responded to them with miraculous fertility. Now the surrounding Muslim nations are seeking to cast them out again. All this is being fulfilled before our eyes.

Islam stands in direct defiance of God's predicted purpose. The Koran declares that the Jews added prophetic passages like the one above and they are therefore false. But if they are false, why are they so accurately being fulfilled? Even many Arab Christians do not want to accept these clear Biblical statements. The fact that they have been in the Holy Land for a few centuries as usurpers does not annul the irrevocable title deed God gave to the descendants of Abraham Isaac and Jacob.

It is for this reason I have so adamantly continued to explain prophecy and expose current Muslim schemes to destroy the nation of Israel. With Martin Luther, I feel compelled to say that it is here I stand. God help me, I cannot do otherwise than to fulfill His Divine calling. The Muslims who reject God's sovereign purposes with Israel wouldn't believe the Gospel anyway.

Make no mistake; I deeply love the Trinity Broadcasting Network. I have been intimately involved with this incredible worldwide ministry for over three decades. Actually from its very beginning. More than most, I know and appreciate the tremendous sacrifices its founders made to build it. I deeply appreciate the platform TBN has given me in years past. I honestly believe there are few organizations in operation today that can play as great a role in the end-time harvest as TBN. I truly believe TBN's greatest days could be yet to come.

So in this hour of crisis, I need your prayers and your support. I live by faith. I believe that those of you who have been blessed by my ministry will continue to invest in my calling and make it possible for me continue to spread this desperately needed prophetic warning that very few are proclaiming. The decision makers at TBN also need your prayers. This could be a disastrous turn in their ministry. God will not be mocked in the things that He makes clear are precious to Him.

God bless you and reward you for your prayers and faithful support.

Hal Lindsey

This is the promise the Lord directed me to claim: '"No weapon forged against you will prevail, and you will refute every tongue that accuses you. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and this is their vindication from me,' declares the LORD." (Isaiah 54:17 NIV) Combat faith is now on.
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Hello Twobombs,

Brother, I really don't remember much being said here about Hal Lindsey. I do appreciate you posting this information.

I do remember some news and expose type material being posted on people like Benny Hinn. I don't remember specifics on others, but I do remember information about how offerings were being used by some for outrageous luxury and not the Lord's work. I don't remember Hal Lindsey fitting into this category. The biggest posting was about Benny Hinn. He probably represents the worst in the waste of offerings, and some of his teaching is completely FALSE. Agree or disagree with Benny Hinn, I don't think that people should be sending him offerings so he can stay in $10,000 a night hotel rooms. If TBN needs to cut someone, I would think that Benny Hinn should be the first to go.

Brother, please do feel completely free to post Bible Prophecy updates and information here. I know that we don't agree on everything, but I always enjoy studying the information you post. We might agree on more than you think, but I hope that our disagreements have been with respect. I am still studying information from your web site, and 100% agreement in Bible Prophecy is not necessary for interest and study. I know that we are Brothers in Christ and belong to JESUS, so some disagreement in the extremely difficult and complex area of Bible Prophecy really doesn't mean much to me.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Romans 10:16-17 NASB  However, they did not all heed the good news; for Isaiah says, "LORD, WHO HAS BELIEVED OUR REPORT?" So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ.

2Ti 4:3   For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
(4)   And they shall turn away [their] ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

Notwithstanding Hal's kind comments about TBN, I believe that the real truth is starting to be made apparent.   While I also don't agree completely with some of Hal's prognostications, he at least continues to point out an essential truth.....Jesus is coming, and He's not gonna be too long about it!!!!

AMEN BROTHER!!

Brother Hank, we've been missing you, and it's great to see you on the forum. I hope and pray that you are well and your ministry is doing good.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Romans 10:16-17 NASB  However, they did not all heed the good news; for Isaiah says, "LORD, WHO HAS BELIEVED OUR REPORT?" So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ.

Well we all have our collateral opinions & objections collected along the way. What's important is that there are two major factions in the end time church. One is the non-compromising power wielding church, and the other can be called the Babylon-church filled with, well we all know and pray for them, right ?

I see TBN as an institution as the latter; and this institution is tumbling down the rabbit hole; the 'wonderland' gosple becomes weirder as time progresses.

Hal has been, being a pretrib and all, 100% accepted by this community but as the level of the gosple progressively deterioates at TBN due to several factors, of wich the most is money; revenue, advertising, # of viewers, etc etc.
The spoiled (US dominated) viever no longer accepts what is within reasonable levels the Truth(tm)

And, as Evangelist correctly quotes;
2Ti 4:3  For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
(4)  And they shall turn away [their] ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

They're tumbling down the rabbit hole and in the end it is this;
Mat 7:22  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

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streaming asx from his last show that dealt with Jihad http://www.hallindseyoracle.com/asx/iib/2005/111605.asx

Update

Source: http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47691

TBN admits concern about offending Muslims
Network revises statement on pre-emption of Hal Lindsey show
Posted: December 2, 2005
1:45 a.m. Eastern

Hal Lindsey
After insisting the pre-emption of Hal Lindsey's television show had nothing to do with content, a Trinity Broadcasting Network spokesman retracted his statement, admitting officials were concerned, at least secondarily, about offending Arabs and Muslims.

As WorldNetDaily reported, John Casoria, general counsel for the network, responded yesterday to Lindsey's contention that the weekly program "International Intelligence Briefing" had been canceled for December, and possibly permanently, because its message was deemed "too pro-Israel and too anti-Muslim."

Casoria initially replied, "That is absolutely, 100 percent false."

But now, after talking with network programming officials, he says a secondary reason for pre-empting the show was that it "placed Arabs in a negative light."

The overwhelming reason, he still insists, is TBN requires all its programming during December to have a Christmas theme.

"When a programmer chooses not to do so, they are pre-empted so that TBN can focus its attention on the holidays," Casoria said. "Hal is very well aware of this."

Casoria said a "letter generally goes out to all the programmers letting them know this is the case," pointing out at least 20 other programs have been pre-empted because they didn't have a Christmas theme.

But Lindsey told WND this was the first time he had been pre-empted for the entire month of December, noting his program previously had been replaced only the week before Christmas.

He also pointed out TBN had him come in Tuesday to tape this week's show but informed him afterward, "through the chain of command," to stop production because they didn't like the script.

Lindsey, a WND columnist, said he has to drive 130 miles to the network's studios in Orange County, California, to record the show.

Casoria said he could not recall specific examples from Lindsey's programs that were anti-Arab or anti-Muslim, but he expressed the network's concern about how Muslims are portrayed.

"TBN is a worldwide ministry; we have an entire channel that airs 24 hours a day, seven days a week in Arabic," he said. "We are trying to reach the Islamic world and open a dialogue with them regarding Christ and Christianity."

Casoria explained, "We do not feel that the best witness of Christ is to bash them but rather to show them the nature of Christ – the way Christ said to present himself – and that is through love, understanding and the presentation of the gospel to them."

Lindsey argued, however, his program is not shown in the Middle East.

"My show is produced for the Western world and for Christians who are at the most risk from radical Islam," he said.

Lindsey said that in the show that was canceled this week, he made a clear distinction between Muslims seeking jihad and those who want only a job and normal life for their families.

"I cast radical Muslims in a bad light," he said, "showing how they are intimidating and persecuting moderate Muslims in the Middle East."

Casoria said he believes the extremists are not Muslims at all but have "hijacked the religion."

As a Christian, he sees Islam as a false religion – believing there is only one way to God, through Jesus Christ – but he says Islam basically is peaceful.

"That's where we violently disagree," Lindsey said. "Islam is not a peaceful religion; although there may be moderate Muslims, it's because they have not become followers of the Quran."

Lindsey said in a message to supporters on his website that TBN's decision is "confusing to me because my message is the same as it has been for the entire 12 years of presenting the IIB program. It has not changed one iota."

Asked to respond, Casoria said, speaking personally, "Hal Lindsey's program has clearly changed over the last 12 years, as has Hal Lindsey."

"If you look at his earlier writings and you look at what he writes today, there is definitely a hard edge," he said. "That's my personal feeling."

Lindsey responded, "I doubt if he's read anything I've ever written."

"If there is any hard edge to what I'm saying now, it's post 9-11, when the threat from radical Islam has became readily apparent," Lindsey said. "It's been since that time that my program has soared in the ratings."

After the program didn't turn up in its usual Wednesday time slot, viewers began contacting the network, and by yesterday afternoon, a flood of calls had shut down the switchboard, Lindsey said.

[offer]

Casoria said "International Intelligence Briefing" would be back on the air in January, but Lindsey claims he was told the show's future would be discussed in the new year.

Asked to respond, Casoria said, "If that statement was made by Hal Lindsey, I think it's a little paranoia on his part."

Casoria said Lindsey and TBN chief Paul Crouch, who founded the network with his wife Jan, have been friends for a long time.

"I'm sure these very reasonable men can resolve these issues," said Casoria, a nephew of the Crouches.

Lindsey said he has "no axe to grind."

I've been happy with my opportunities at TBN," he said. "I'm happy with the platform I've had."

Hello TwoBombs,

Brother, I don't watch a lot of television, so I don't know what all is going on with TBN. Being afraid of offending Muslims is a very poor reason for changing programming. You know me well enough to be certain that I would never water down or dilute the GOSPEL to be politically correct. In fact, I think that the full-strength Gospel of the Grace of God is the only way to help the lost, and that would obviously include Muslims. In short, I believe that being politically correct hurts people instead of helping them.

Brother, you and I agree on many things, especially all of the critical things about JESUS and the Cross. We've had what I hope were pleasant agree to disagree type situations on Bible Prophecy, but I also believe that JESUS is coming soon. Right NOW would make me very happy! If not now, the sooner the better. I simply want to yield and serve God according to His Will until JESUS comes to take us home. YES, I think that the time grows short, and I give thanks for every effort to spread God's Word. It makes me very happy to hear about people being saved because I know that tomorrow might be too late. I don't speculate about a date or a time for the Second Coming of Christ, but I feel in my heart that the time grows near. If not, I'll be content to serve HIM in whatever way HE allows me to for the rest of my life.

Love In Christ,
Tom

1 Timothy 6:12 NASB  Fight the good fight of faith; take hold of the eternal life to which you were called, and you made the good confession in the presence of many witnesses.

Fin de ciecle :
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First TBN drops Lindsey,
now Lindsey drops TBN
Best-selling author says Christian network tried to muzzle his views on radical Islam
Posted: January 3, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern


© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com


Hal Lindsey

Hal Lindsey, considered the best-selling non-fiction writer alive today, has notified the Trinity Broadcasting Network he will not return to his twice-weekly Christian commentary program, "The International Intelligence Briefing," because of what he considers to be efforts to muzzle his opinions about radical Islam.

Lindsey, author of "The Late Great Planet Earth" and many other best-selling books and a weekly columnist for WND, has anchored the program for the last 12 years on the world's largest Christian network.

The announcement follows an abrupt six-week suspension of the popular TBN-sponsored program by Jan Crouch, TBN's vice president for programming.

Though John Casoria, TBN's general counsel first told WorldNetDaily the show's suspension was simply a traditional hiatus in lieu of seasonal programming, that statement was later revised to confirm that the network believed Lindsey's program "placed Arabs in a negative light."

Lindsey responded to this allegation: "I don't have to cast radical Muslims in a bad light. If the intimidation and persecution of moderate Muslims makes radical Islam look bad, that is because it is bad – not that I 'cast' them in a bad light. But I have never cast the Arabs as a race in a bad light."

"I also seek to show that radical Islam poses the greatest danger ever faced by the United States," he added. "I believe that God called me as 'a watchman on the wall' to warn America and I must obey – although it is sometimes unpopular."

On the other hand, Casoria told WND he believes the extremists are not Muslims at all but have "hijacked the religion."

Lindsey contends that "the extremists are the ones most literally following the Quran and the Hadith, which are the most holy and authoritative books of the Muslim religion. This is why violence has erupted from Muslims in virtually every century since its birth."

Casoria said he could not recall specific examples from Lindsey's programs that were anti-Arab or anti-Muslim, but he expressed the network's concern about how Muslims are portrayed.

"TBN is a worldwide ministry; we have an entire channel that airs 24 hours a day, seven days a week in Arabic," he said. "We are trying to reach the Islamic world and open a dialogue with them regarding Christ and Christianity."

Casoria explained, "We do not feel that the best witness of Christ is to bash them but rather to show them the nature of Christ – the way Christ said to present himself – and that is through love, understanding and the presentation of the gospel to them."

Lindsey argued, however, his program is not shown in the Middle East.

source: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48163

Hal Lindsey's 'anti-Muslim' show dropped

Christian television network denies decision related to content
Posted: December 1, 2005
4:10 p.m. Eastern

By Art Moore
© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

Hal Lindsey hosting his weekly TBN program
Author Hal Lindsey says his weekly television program has been dropped by the Trinity Broadcasting Network because its message is considered by some officials at the Christian network to be "too pro-Israel and too anti-Muslim."

"International Intelligence Briefing," a current-affairs style show that focuses on biblical prophecy and its relationship to events in the Holy Land, was removed from the air for the entire month of December and may never be broadcast again, according to Lindsey, a WND columnist.

"This is confusing to me because my message is the same as it has been for the entire 12 years of presenting the IIB program," said Lindsey in a website dispatch to supporters. "It has not changed one iota."

John Casoria, general counsel for TBN, confirmed to WorldNetDaily that Lindsey's program won't air during December, but he says that applies only to this month's schedule and insists the decision has nothing to do with content.

"That is absolutely, 100 percent false," Casoria said of Lindsey's assertion.

Casoria said he has been trying, unsuccessfully, to get in touch today with Lindsey or someone in his office.

Lindsey's show normally airs at 5:30 p.m. each Wednesday and is repeated Thursday at 10 p.m.

Casoria explained that TBN, as part of its contractual agreement, has the right to pre-empt a network-produced program such as Lindsey's.

It's not playing this month, Casoria said, because the network is focusing on Christmas programming.

In an interview with WND, however, Lindsey said he was told specifically, through the TBN "chain of command," that his program was being dropped indefinitely, at least through December, because he was "Arab bashing."

An evaluation of the program's future is to be made in January, according to Lindsey.

He said that after recording this week's program Tuesday afternoon, he was told the show was canceled because of the script.

Lindsey wrote in his website letter that this week's program "addressed the tremendous political upheaval in Israel – including the toppling of the government – in the wake of the Gaza withdrawals. It warned about the peril the U.S. faces if we pull out of Iraq and leave the perception that radical Islamic terrorists defeated the world's only superpower."

Lindsey said the program included an exclusive interview with former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in Jerusalem.

"The feeling must be that honestly reporting news on current issues concerning radical Islam is thwarting evangelism to Muslims at large, particularly Palestinians," Lindsey said in his website message. "I personally believe that both Christian Palestinians and moderate Muslims – who are being intimidated and persecuted by the radicals – actually welcome honest reporting on the situation."

Lindsey, author of the 1970s best-seller "The Late Great Planet Earth," said he understands how there will be "disagreements about style and aesthetics in programming. But I can't understand how any Christian that is aware of the dangers radical Islam poses to our nation, Christians worldwide and the nation of Israel can issue a mandate to soft-pedal the truth about it."

Lindsey said he still "deeply" loves TBN, noting he's been involved with the network from its beginning, three decades ago.

He asked supporters to pray for himself and for the "decision makers at TBN."

"This could be a disastrous turn in their ministry," Lindsey said.

Hal Lindsey's 'anti-muslim show dropped (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47678)

TBN admits concern about offending Muslims
Network revises statement on pre-emption of Hal Lindsey show
Posted: December 2, 2005
1:45 a.m. Eastern

By Art Moore
© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

After insisting the pre-emption of Hal Lindsey's television show had nothing to do with content, a Trinity Broadcasting Network spokesman retracted his statement, admitting officials were concerned, at least secondarily, about offending Arabs and Muslims.

As WorldNetDaily reported, John Casoria, general counsel for the network, responded yesterday to Lindsey's contention that the weekly program "International Intelligence Briefing" had been canceled for December, and possibly permanently, because its message was deemed "too pro-Israel and too anti-Muslim."

Casoria initially replied, "That is absolutely, 100 percent false."

But now, after talking with network programming officials, he says a secondary reason for pre-empting the show was that it "placed Arabs in a negative light."

The overwhelming reason, he still insists, is TBN requires all its programming during December to have a Christmas theme.

"When a programmer chooses not to do so, they are pre-empted so that TBN can focus its attention on the holidays," Casoria said. "Hal is very well aware of this."

Casoria said a "letter generally goes out to all the programmers letting them know this is the case," pointing out at least 20 other programs have been pre-empted because they didn't have a Christmas theme.

But Lindsey told WND this was the first time he had been pre-empted for the entire month of December, noting his program previously had been replaced only the week before Christmas.

He also pointed out TBN had him come in Tuesday to tape this week's show but informed him afterward, "through the chain of command," to stop production because they didn't like the script.

Lindsey, a WND columnist, said he has to drive 130 miles to the network's studios in Orange County, California, to record the show.

Casoria said he could not recall specific examples from Lindsey's programs that were anti-Arab or anti-Muslim, but he expressed the network's concern about how Muslims are portrayed.

"TBN is a worldwide ministry; we have an entire channel that airs 24 hours a day, seven days a week in Arabic," he said. "We are trying to reach the Islamic world and open a dialogue with them regarding Christ and Christianity."

Casoria explained, "We do not feel that the best witness of Christ is to bash them but rather to show them the nature of Christ – the way Christ said to present himself – and that is through love, understanding and the presentation of the gospel to them."

Lindsey argued, however, his program is not shown in the Middle East.

"My show is produced for the Western world and for Christians who are at the most risk from radical Islam," he said.

Lindsey said that in the show that was canceled this week, he made a clear distinction between Muslims seeking jihad and those who want only a job and normal life for their families.

"I cast radical Muslims in a bad light," he said, "showing how they are intimidating and persecuting moderate Muslims in the Middle East."

Casoria said he believes the extremists are not Muslims at all but have "hijacked the religion."

As a Christian, he sees Islam as a false religion – believing there is only one way to God, through Jesus Christ – but he says Islam basically is peaceful.

"That's where we violently disagree," Lindsey said. "Islam is not a peaceful religion; although there may be moderate Muslims, it's because they have not become followers of the Quran."

Lindsey said in a message to supporters on his website that TBN's decision is "confusing to me because my message is the same as it has been for the entire 12 years of presenting the IIB program. It has not changed one iota."

Asked to respond, Casoria said, speaking personally, "Hal Lindsey's program has clearly changed over the last 12 years, as has Hal Lindsey."

"If you look at his earlier writings and you look at what he writes today, there is definitely a hard edge," he said. "That's my personal feeling."

Lindsey responded, "I doubt if he's read anything I've ever written."

"If there is any hard edge to what I'm saying now, it's post 9-11, when the threat from radical Islam has became readily apparent," Lindsey said. "It's been since that time that my program has soared in the ratings."

After the program didn't turn up in its usual Wednesday time slot, viewers began contacting the network, and by yesterday afternoon, a flood of calls had shut down the switchboard, Lindsey said.

Casoria said "International Intelligence Briefing" would be back on the air in January, but Lindsey claims he was told the show's future would be discussed in the new year.

Asked to respond, Casoria said, "If that statement was made by Hal Lindsey, I think it's a little paranoia on his part."

Casoria said Lindsey and TBN chief Paul Crouch, who founded the network with his wife Jan, have been friends for a long time.

"I'm sure these very reasonable men can resolve these issues," said Casoria, a nephew of the Crouches.

Lindsey said he has "no axe to grind."

I've been happy with my opportunities at TBN," he said. "I'm happy with the platform I've had."

I'm currious to see if Haggee stays on.   I know he's been pretty harsh about Islam.  He and Hal were pretty much the only two shows I watched on there.

2ndTim, if John Hagee gets dropped I won't watch TBN again. I think John Hagee is straight forward, and does not fear what anyone who disagree with him thinks. What I can't understand is Muslim is not a nation or a race it is a religion, so from a religious point of view Hal is doing what he should be doing, he is not attacking a race, he is showing the errors of the muslim religion, that is what he should be doing. I am not a person who hates any people, race, or nation, but I hate what is wrong, I hate lies, I hate deception, I hate adultery, I hate stealing, I hate murder, I hate sexual pervasion, I hate abortion, if I was working for let's say TBN and said these things, would it be right for me to get kicked out because of making my feelings known, and perhaps even hurting the feelings of murderers, abortionists, homosexuals, thieves, liars, sex offenders. This thing that TBN has done to Hal Lindsy is begining to sound like the ACLU to me. TBN is supposed to win people for Christ makeing them Christian (am I right so far?) Now then Hal or any other Christian for that matter including myself don't neccessarily have to be antimuslim because we preach the Gospel of Jesus. So the way I see it is we are either for Christ or against Him. It is the same as witchcraft, I am not afraid of being anti-witchcraft, anti-muslim or anti anything that sets itself up against the Truth of my Lord.
Your sister in Christ,
Maria.

As I stated in the topic, my educated guess is that money & sponsors are in the limelight, more then prophecy & truthseeking.

It looks that way, 2B. :(

It seems to me that TBN is now trying to be politically correct.

With CAIR teaming up with the ACLU I think it is a fear of a lawsuit. Who knows what goes on behind the scenes. There may have already been the threat of such placed on them.

Such lawsuits have already happened.

Whatever happened to fear God only?? Did they stop trusting in the Lord?? Are they limiting God?
The enemy comes but to steal, kill and destroy.
TBN should know this.

fear is never a very good adviser; TBN will come or might have already crossed the point where it would be better to be a voice in the wilderness then a law/polically correct station.

Amen air and twobombs. This is the way of the world, fear what man can do to you instead of fearing He that can save your soul.

I for one will not stop in teaching the truth and the truth is not in CAIR or the ACLU. Jesus Christ is the way the truth and the life. To follow CAIR or the ACLU or to bow down to them in fear is none of this.

We should all be steadfast when it comes to any type of opposition. Sometimes I wonder where people really place their trust. I pray that Christians all around the world will be able to stand on their faith in God and not let anything force them to negotiate with the world or anything that sets itself above Jesus. Just as Jesus said it "is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle...."

How ironic that you should say 'behind the scenes' TBN has a half hour program named Behind The Scenes. Do they really say what is going on behind the scenes? I think not. So I guess it is up for speculation what is really going on behind the scenes and it's becoming quite obvious that they are not tusting God and God only.

I agree with you guys on putting and keeping Christ first.   I am fairly certain that this decision comes down from a "board of directors" or some such, who made a corporate decision based on some demographics of new towers, that have been reaching muslim audiences.   Like airIam says, (in a round about way  ;) ), if we were worried about offending sinners, we would have drop all Christian programming.   On the flip side, I am thankful that TBN has reached millions of people through the airways with the Gospel.   Theres no telling how many souls have been saved hearing any number of broadcasts on there.  

It is becoming quite clear that Islam is going to have an enormous role in the end times.   If you look at all the nations spoken of in Ezekiel 38 and 39, basically all of them are Islamic nations.  

When Christian broadcasting compromises truth for the sake of its audience, something is not as it should be.   I don't want to be judgmental, but lets just call it grave concern.   I will be praying for the leadership of TBN.

I am sure that you are right 2T. Islam will have a prominent play in the end times. What we are witnessing is just one more thing that shows us the end times are coming upon us.

I agree with you 2Tim, they definately need prayer. From my perspective, the only thing any of us can do right now is pray and trust that God, Who is faithful to His Word will even make the rocks speak if that becomes necessary, I just am so flabergasted that a Christian Broadcasting Network, lets itself get talked into doing the opposite of what it is supposed to do. I foresee a lot of this happening and who knows even here in the US Christians will have to go underground to get the Word out.
I am praying that God will intervene and that those that still haven't heard the Word will have the opportunity to do so. It makes me wonder how many will give in to opposition thank God for the rapture, because things will only get worse. It is so very hard for me to even begin to comprehend that a Christian station that has been preaching the gospel for over 30 years, will let itself become intimidated by political correctness. It behooves me.

Please don't "lighten" the problem by laying it off to a "corporate" decision, or a "board of directors" thing.  Paul Crouch is Pres......period, end of the line.  Jan is Sr. VP....period, end of the line. Paul is Chief Exec. Ofc., and runs the biz day to day, makes the decisions, and implements them....period, end of the line.

From the very beginning of TBN, the emphasis in programming and personalities has been in the Dominion/Reconstruction/Restoration areas, heavily flavored with "experiential" worship.  The people with the biggest followings and shows are those that are basically people pleasing and entertaining.....long on rhetoric and short on substance.  Why else would Avanzini, Hinn, Clements, Parsley et al be the prime players?

Jude wrote specifically about these people....quite frankly, I'm surprised that he didn't name them.

Jud 1:8   Likewise also these [filthy] dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

How many times have you seen them strut around, yelling at  the devil and demons, and "putting them under our feet," and proclaiming that WE have the authority to do whatever we want with them.

Jud 1:9   Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

Jud 1:11   Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.
Jud 1:12   These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds [they are] without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
Jud 1:13   Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.
Jud 1:14   And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
Jud 1:15   To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard [speeches] which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
Jud 1:16   These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling [words], having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.

Back many years ago, I did some preaching on one of their first stations, out of New Mexico.  Even then, the corporate thrust and direction was to entertain, not teach.  After being told several times to not "be such a bible thumper", my wife and I dusted our feet.  

I seriously doubt that there are as many who have come to Christ thru TBN as have turned away, turned off by the shenanigans, hype and hoopla......truly they are a 3-ring circus.

Evangelist,

Brother Hank, it's great to hear from you. You and your ministry are always in my prayers. I know beyond any doubt that you will always put JESUS and the Gospel of the Grace of God first, and you won't worry about being politically correct or pleasing the lost.

Pleasing the lost would certainly and obviously include Islam. It makes me very sad that there are huge so-called Christian networks who are more interested in pleasing Muslims than they are in giving out the Truth of JESUS and the Cross. Brother, this isn't the first BAD NEWS that we've heard about large Christian organizations abandoning their purpose in Christ. I'm thinking specifically about a large church that recently held a vote about JESUS being GOD, yes or no. All I can say is things like this make me very sad. NOW, more than ever, the world needs JESUS and the Cross, not entertainment and political correctness. People are dying in their sins without JESUS, and some so-called Christian organizations are withholding the TRUTH that those lost souls so desperately need.

Brother Hank and others, this just makes me very sad. On the other side of the coin, I know about many ministries that will NEVER hide the Truth of JESUS and the CROSS. Those ministries might not be huge and popular, but GOD is still using them in a mighty way. I give thanks for Christians all over the world who are not ashamed of the GOSPEL of the GRACE OF GOD. In fact, many of them are giving up their lives to share the GOSPEL, and I give thanks that they serve as an example to all of us. In my heart and mind, I know there will be men and women with the courage to share the GOOD NEWS until the end of this age. AND, NOBODY will be able to stop GOD from using His Word. His Word will NOT return void.

Brothers and Sisters, I just read an issue of Voice of the Martyrs, and I always have mixed emotions:

I feel bad that there are Christians giving their lives to share the Gospel.

I personally feel embarrassed and bad that I haven't spent more effort in sharing the Gospel.

I feel motivated to do more, work harder, and be more determined to share the Gospel of the Grace of God.

It's the devil trying to stop the work of GOD, and the work of GOD WILL NOT be stopped. I hope and pray that GOD gives me the strength and courage to do His Will to the last minute, the minute that HE takes us home.

Brothers and Sisters, here's the thing that really makes me feel bad. Christians are dying in jungles and many dangerous places all over the world to share the GOSPEL. All of their days are dangerous and difficult, but they continue with determination to the death. NOW, think about these massive television and satellite productions from air-conditioned stages and total safety that decide to dilute or withhold the TRUTH and the GOSPEL. Further, they have massive amounts of money, and the dying missionaries or underground Christians are living in poverty. They have all that money, but entertainment and political correctness becomes more important than the GOSPEL. THIS MAKES ME SICK!

I apologize for NOTHING. I think that all Christians should be outraged with what some organizations are doing with the LORD's money and resources. I didn't intend to hurt anyone's feelings here, but I did want to boldly state what's on my heart and what I felt led to say.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Isaiah 55:10-11 NASB  "For as the rain and the snow come down from heaven, And do not return there without watering the earth And making it bear and sprout, And furnishing seed to the sower and bread to the eater; So will My word be which goes forth from My mouth; It will not return to Me empty, Without accomplishing what I desire, And without succeeding in the matter for which I sent it.

Amen Brother. What you have said is truth and there is never a reason to apologize for the truth of God. When things of this world such as money and political correctness become more important than the word of God then it demeans the word of God, detracts from it and actually is a major stumbling block to those that might otherwise accept our Lord as their Saviour.

Amen, I agree with both of you BEP and PR. It also makes those that are still babes in Christ to doubt God's Word.  
Mt 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
It causes unbelievers to think that God's Word is not important, unbelievers usually remember only the negative things they hear about Christianity, making it harder for the true message of the Gospel to be accepted. We must pray for the lost, and the babes in Christ that they will have a receptive heart and that God will soften their hearts so they will not be able to resist the wooing of the Holy Spirit.

Did anyone else catch Hal Lindsey on FoxNews Hannity And Colmes last night?   It was only a 5 min segment, but they were asking him about his reasoning for leaving TBN and the question of Muslim bashing.

He said that Paul was sick during the time he left and that "she" (never saying a name) was the person who requested a script for his shows to pre-approve it.   He said he had spoken with Paul just yesterday, and that it seemed Paul was not aware of everything that was going on with the ordeal.

They also questioned him about his stance against Muslims.   Hal said that true Islamics are the devout Muslims who follow the teaching of the Koran becoming "radical", and that moderates are the ones who have not really delved into the Koran.   He didn't get much time, but he did have the opportunity to mention the soon return of Christ before he was abruptly cut off.

Just wanted to give an update.

I was saved through TBN, but I am sad today how much it has changed from 24 years ago.  Too much of trying to conform to the world is seen, and that is evident by removing Hal Lindsey's program.  There are few who are willing to tell the whole truth, as the Bible tells it, and Hal was doing that.  WE ARE IN THE LAST DAYS PEOPLE, WAKE UP.   READ THE WORD SO YOU WON'T BE DECIEVED. 

Lindsey's final decree: 'I am not coming back'

Author dispelling suggestion from network of imminent return to Trinity Broadcasting
Posted: January 12, 2006
2:37 a.m. Eastern

By Joe Kovacs
© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com


Hal Lindsey

Despite a letter from the head of the Trinity Broadcasting Network indicating a possible resolution to a dispute involving Christian author Hal Lindsey's program, Lindsey maintains he will not return to the network that has aired his show for the last 12 years.

"I am not going back to TBN," Lindsey told WorldNetDaily this morning. "There's friendship there, but also differences in opinion in what ought and ought not to be presented. And I don't want any censorship."

As WND reported, the correspondence signed by Dr. Paul Crouch, the evangelist founder of the world's largest religious network and America's most-watched faith channel, was responding to a concerned TBN viewer's Web comment about Lindsey's absence.

The text of Crouch's letter states:


Evangelists Paul and Jan Crouch head up Trinity Broadcasting Network

"Hal and I have talked about the potential return of Hal's 'International Intelligence Briefing' to the TBN programming schedule. This is certainly my desire and Hal has indicated to me that he is very interested in returning to his regular time slot.

"The problem we faced was receiving very serious and threatening e-mails, letters, etc., to TBN because of statements Hal had made concerning Islam and the Arab people. My plea to Hal is to please not focus so much on the political aspects of the Middle East and to focus more directly on biblical perspectives.

"As soon as the current TBN series 'Against All Odds' ends we will hope to see Hal's program back home on TBN. ... Please know that we love you and appreciate your sincere concern for Hal and for TBN."

Lindsey explains while he did have a conversation with Crouch Tuesday night about the possibility of returning, Crouch misinterpreted Lindsey's response when he said he would pray about the matter. He says his main concerns remain the pre-empting of the show with little or no notice, and the desire by Paul Crouch's wife, Jan, to pre-approve the program's scripts, to make sure Lindsey was focusing more on the Bible and less on current politics.

"I don't consider talking about Islam 'politics,'" Lindsey told WND. "Radical Islam is the most vicious false religion on Earth."

"It's [TBN's] desire to only be positive and only present the love and peace message of Christ," Lindsey added, noting Paul Crouch told him he didn't believe Jesus was ever confrontational.

But Lindsey pointed out Jesus was very confrontational with the false teachers of his own time, calling them "whitewashed tombs," "brood of vipers," and "sons of hell" in the 23rd chapter of the Gospel of Matthew.

"It wasn't all sweetness and light," Lindsey said.

Throughout this dispute, Lindsey's photo and the name of his program have remained on the TBN website.


Hal Lindsey's image and show name have remained on TBN's website

Lindsey now says he's looking to air a new weekly program called "The Hal Lindsey Report" on the DayStar Christian Network as early as Sunday, Jan. 29. He may also have a slot on the Sky Angel Network.

WorldNetDaily broke the story in December that Lindsey, author of "The Late Great Planet Earth" and many other best-selling books and a weekly columnist for WND, had been dropped by TBN, claiming he was being muzzled for his views about radical Islam.

Though John Casoria, TBN's general counsel first told WorldNetDaily the show's suspension was simply a traditional hiatus in lieu of seasonal programming, that statement was later revised to confirm that the network believed Lindsey's program "placed Arabs in a negative light."

Lindsey's final decree: 'I am not coming back' (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48311)

My note; I guess TBN, want to be politically correct.  :'( >:(

Programming News Update  - Hal Lindsey – www.hallindsey.com

I thank God for each one of you who have expressed your encouragement and support by sending your faith-gifts to get my ministry started up on new television networks.

You have proven to me once again the certainty of God’s promise quoted above. It is faith in God’s promises that enabled me to sign my signature on obligations that make me personally responsible for about one million dollars.

Your seed money is enabling me to proceed by faith to rent the studio facilities and equipment, hire the necessary people and contract time on various television networks, which is all very expensive.

I pray that God will reward each one of you a thousand-fold.

Most exciting of all to me are the testimonies of thousands of you as to how much the International Intelligence Briefing meant to you. Most encouraging are reports about so many of your family members who wouldn’t watch any other Christian show never miss the IIB – and then come to faith in Christ.

I promise that with the Holy Spirit’s power, The Hal Lindsey Report will be even better and have greater impact. It will remain “Politically Incorrect, alternative news that is Biblically correct.”

Just as soon as we are up and ready to broadcast, I will post the time and method that you can see the new program. We already have a contract with DayStar and Sky Angel nearly completed. By God’s grace, others will follow.