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I have a small list. lol, if yo uwant, pray for "That stuff" GOd knows ;) and he will do his will regardless.

1. Because my Hich School only requires 3 years of math, my last year of schools had no math in it, and now I'm going into college. Thrusday is my Freshmen Orientation for College, and I have to take a placement test for math. If I don’t do good, since my school doesn’t offer remedial course, I will have to shell out 300 bucks and spend a semester in a Math class that doesn’t even count at a Jr. College across town, like a 30 minute drive from the Campus! I’ve been getting some sites and studying, so please pray that I remember something about Sophomore year math, and pass the test with a descent grade!

2. This is a 2 parter: I was very pleased a while back then I found NASA, it is an all natural Strength Sports Organization, and one of the best I’ve seen. Anyways, in this little corner of Texas, Football owns, and many of the star high school jocks are… shall we say, not clean. Anyways,  ever sense I found this group, I’ve been building up my team to go to East Texas Regionals in October ever since. I know if we place high, we will gain local attention, and the people will see you don’t need supplements or illegal drugs to get big and strong.
As you know I’m starting College next year, my first year in college, and I’ve heard it is the hardest, because your still trying to get used to it. So, I need prayer, for team, that we can win and spread the good news of all natural to the area, and for me, that God lights a fire under me that makes me works as hard in the classroom (and outside study) as I do in the gym, because if I’m not doing good when October comes, the meet is off! Thanks guys. I know it doesn’t seem like much, But I’m freaked about not doing very good in college, and lifting is my lift.

Woohoo! That's awesome, Tib! You've got a lot going on. A lot of pressure, too, though-I sure understand that. I will certainly add you to my prayer list and include you in my fasting this weekend. That is so awesome about what you're trying to do with the football team. Hats off to you, buddy! Keep us posted so we can keep our prayers updated, too.

Yeah. There is another meet in January, I just got the info in it today. So I’m thinking about, if I need more time to focus on College, and/or we need more training, we can go to that meet. I'm so happy. My parent where kind of upset that I was going to a meet in the first Semester in College. I'm glad I found a meet only 2 months away from the first one. When God closes one door, he opens another, right?

This is the meet info for October (like anyone cares):

http://www.nasa-sports.com/Entry%20E%20TX%20St.htm

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Awwwright! I wish we were in the area-we'd root you on. But we'll be cheering for you here and praying for a wonderful time! I'm very impressed. GO TIB!

lol, thanks. We will win for CU, in October or January!  ;D

Very good! And if you can upload some sort of Texas flag or pic or something, we'll use them for avatars until the meet is over.  
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Good idea. Or my town's crappy Shield, lol. We will need prayer, thanks for it. And don't forget about my College thing  ;D Stupid Freshamn orintation, making us take a stupid math test :( Oh well, it will be no problem :) thanks for the prayer cover.

You got it, Tib! Wow-your town has a shield? How did that come about?

Everyone town has one, I think. You know, those logo's that your town puts on everything? Sometimes they are called sheilds. Ours is like a white J in a box, with with red and blue background.

Besides, you arn't going to get that idea to cetch on. I'm not the most popualr person on the board, lol. ;D thanks for the thought :)

We're all rootin' for ya, Tib.  :)

Whitehorse, if it was only you rooting for me, it would be enough  ;D

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Awww... Thanks, Tib. :)

Symphony, we can always count on you for the visual, lol. Speaking of games with personality, d-o-o-o-o-on't play Risk with any of your good friends unless you know that they are very calm, level-headed people. I don't know what it is about that game, but it really really brings out the worst in just about everyone I've ever played it with. Except for one friend. Then my spouse and I tried playing it with some other couples, and these were some old friends who didn't happen to be Christians. A friend of ours who bought the game because it seemed so fun took the game which everyone stopped playing mid game because of the bad attitudes that were erupting, and pitched it on the spot. (It's a game of world conquest. Some people handle it well, others... ) We finished the night playing Scattergories.

Pente is great fun. Everyone has a different approach to it, and it's that kind of game where you can.

Ok, you lose me with the games  ;D But I disagree, never play Risk, or Chess, or Go, with a level-headed person, because they are the ones who win ;D I haven't played Risk in forever, good game. Really good game. Never played Pente before.

Sym- lol, you do love your pics lol, I have to 2 best cheerleaders online  ;D

Um, I think WH was suggesting games on another thread--but Uno sounds a little like Risk, 'cept Uno not very cerebral, but has the built-in function of deflating your world conquest automatically--just when victory is within sight, according to the randomness of the cards.  Players variously begin to gloat then, all of a sudden, rack and ruin.  It's very mercurial, and you're constantly learning, or at least me, of what's really inside of me.  It's not a very pretty sight--"it's what comes out of a man that defiles a man".  You're tempted to gloat, b/c of your hand, then you draw a card that changes everything.  But I'm guessing that those who play these kinds of games probably do better in business, than those who don't, b/c they're more aware of their own weaknesses?

Tibby:But I disagree, never play Risk, or Chess, or Go, with a level-headed person, because they are the ones who win

S'y:  LOL.  That's pretty funny, Tibby.  A lot of truth there.

WH: Speaking of games with personality, d-o-o-o-o-on't play Risk with any of your good friends unless you know that they are very calm, level-headed people. I don't know what it is about that game, but it really really brings out the worst in just about everyone I've ever played it with.

Yep, my dad would never enter into our game playing in the family or with guests.  I never learned why.  But I'm guessing this is the reason.  But I think I played Risk only once as a kid; I seem to remember really liking it. Utoh.

I've even wondered about this among sports-playing Christians, where winning is the real or only object.  Does it enhance, or sour potential relationships?  If winning isn't the object, how do you keep it from becoming that anyway.    But I guess that's the point--sportsmanship, and how to respect the other person while still winning(or losing).

Whoa, a Pandora's Box.

But games seem a good way to get to know other people(or learn to avoid them--hehe)

Good question. I think they need to understand the Zen and Art of the Sport they partake in, they need to understand a holistic approach to it all. If God will help win battles he can help win games. All sports majority apply to life. How need Confucius, you learn life lessons from your sport if you let it teach you. Look at the preacher who play a sport, and LOVE that sport with all their heart, they will bring up points, and the example will be with that sport. For true Athletes, the Winning is in end result. Many not Athletic people forget this, because they don’t train as hard, but the Jocks know, The Journey to get there is many times more trying then the test it self. And, if you ask many Jocks, a lot of them will say they enjoy the training more!

And your right, sportsmanship, Bushido, Chivalry, whatever name you give you code of honor, you learn it in sports. You learn to trust your team, trust you boys.  There is an unwritten code of honor many Athletes uphold. It is a shame that code doesn’t last to the pro’s many times... >:(

Hm. Good question. My guess is that winning is half the fun; the line between healthy competition and the murky waters is in the way we view the opponents. It's how we view loss. It's like the tennis sisters, Serena and Venus. They compete, but they love each other dearly. The winning is great fun and part of the competition, but their relationship is the thing they want most, and from a Christian standpoint, winning is something we can want and even love, because it means we did well at the game. It's when the game starts crossing that vague line to becoming too important that it starts getting a little sticky. And a lot of people struggle with it. Lots. I think that's why Risk can become so wild! At our Risk party we actually had to stop midgame and the friend who owned the particular board we were using that night literally threw the game in the trash because tempers were flying out of control. Of course, a lot of the people there that night weren't Christians, so there were cuss words flying all over, the couples turning against their beloved and calling them terrible names...I mean this was out of control. People were seriously irate. It wasn't about competition anymore, and I think that's where it went off the deep end. I think there came a point where it was more about control; maybe that's why. Because you have to remember, these were couples who were in love with each other, calling each other the most vile names you could imagine. I doubt you've ever seen that before, hopefully.

But there can be an affectionate competition, too, where love is the motive for playing together, and sometimes we win, sometimes we don't. But we get to have fun together. And we pretty much picked the kinds of games that brought that out in each other after that. I still think Risk is a very fun game, but we really do have to pick and choose the right frends to play it with. And I haven't played it in a long time. If I had the chance, I don't know if I would or not. I do love it, but it doesn't make it easy for everyone to edify each other. That's another option-rooting for each other, opponent or not. But in a team situation, I'm not sure if this is possible. With bowling it is, and we've had some good experiences with that, but with a team with a lot of players, rooting for the other team isn't always perceived in the best light! LOL!

Hmm, I missed this, Tibby, Whitehorse.

I will have to come back to this....

Hmmm, we could have a whole separate thread on this one...

Yep, Whitehorse, the game has to be tailored to the situation.  But like in your case, from experience you better know in a given situation what a preferred game might be.

It seems a good way for people to get to know each other--and perhaps themselves, better.  Games do teach a lot about our weaknesses, ambitions, ideas about each other.

Which to my mind comes back to confidence.  Sports instill confidence.  Same with board or parlor games, perhaps.  But they all only instill it on a worldly basis.  How to function with others socially, or in the business world??

But as far as spiritually, I wonder if games are really of any importance.

But of course, they are only just that, "games".   They can be refreshing.  A nice break from "reality".

I think games are important because they build fellowship and edification. But no one wants to play Pente with me anymore, heehee!  >:(

Lord I ask that you bless Tibby,and give him the strength to endure.He is under a heavy burden,and we know you are able to work a miracle in his life.Let him look to you for guideance,and direction in his,and I will give you all the praise,and glory,in Jesus name Amen.

God Bless.

Thank you  ;D