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Title: New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: Jericho232 on June 07, 2004, 02:49:10 PM There is a new movie called "SAVED." I have only seen previews but it looks good. It raises alot of difficult issues that teens must face including questioning faith and it looks pretty funny too. However, some people have said that the movie is Anti-Christian. I will judge for myself when I see it, but I want to know what other people think.
Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: WolfBrother on June 07, 2004, 03:02:35 PM I heard a report on a conservative radio talk show.
One girls mother is having an affair with the Preacher who's single. Another girl finds out her boyfriend is homosexual and tries to "sex" him straight. So, it appears to be a "humerous" slam movie. Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: Sapphire W34P0N on June 07, 2004, 04:31:31 PM From what I can tell, it makes fun of self-righteous Christian teen-agers.
Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: Jericho232 on June 08, 2004, 11:33:03 AM I thought the movie slammed hypocricy and made fun of people who believe and never question things, not Christianity. It a movie that dealt with some serious topics and it was hilarious.
Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: jadeon530 on June 08, 2004, 12:23:27 PM I agree completely with you Jericho...I saw this movie this weekend and I found it to be refreshingly funny and not worth the controversy that has surrounded it since I first heard of it (it is not offensive, at least in my opinion). In fact, I think everyone should check it out just so we could have a more honest discussion on stereotypes and the like. Also, this movie is hilarious. I definitely recommend it!
Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: Aiki Storm on June 09, 2004, 04:37:51 PM Sounds to me like it is misrepresenting christianity. Trashing it. Whoa. Thats bound to be a smash hit. Any christian who supports this garbage needs to examine their relationship with Jesus. I don't care how funny other people say it is.
Can you imagine the outrage if this was a movie poking fun of Islam?! Not a pleasant thought is it? Why all the attacks on christianity? Because it is the one thing Satan is focused on. He does not need to lead people of other faiths away because they are already lost. Hollywood needs Jesus not another stupid teen movie! Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: Neo on June 11, 2004, 12:12:09 PM Saved! looks hilarious.
My girlfriend and I are going to see it tonight. I'll let you know what we thought. Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: Sapphire W34P0N on June 11, 2004, 01:31:07 PM Any christian who supports this garbage needs to examine their relationship with Jesus.
Hmmm...aren't WE the prejudgemental one today... Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: Neo on June 12, 2004, 09:28:58 PM Saw Saved!
Best. Movie. Ever. Well, not really. But it was really good. :) I highly recommend it! Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: CleansedSpirit on June 12, 2004, 09:41:36 PM Neo, how did it represent Christians?
Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: nChrist on June 14, 2004, 12:52:52 PM Oklahoma Howdy to All,
I don't go to many movies, mainly because I just don't have the money and sometimes because I have no interest in worldly movies that are a mockery of Christ and the teachings of the Holy Bible. If I want to laugh, it will not be at the expense of Christ or the teachings of the Holy Bible. I wouldn't see this movie if it was free. Think whatever you wish of me, but what I read about this movie indicates the devil working in a sly way to discourage and confuse our Christian young people. So, I would consider it garbage. Love In Christ, Tom Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: CleansedSpirit on June 14, 2004, 06:12:47 PM Oklahoma Howdy to All, I don't go to many movies, mainly because I just don't have the money and sometimes because I have no interest in worldly movies that are a mockery of Christ and the teachings of the Holy Bible. If I want to laugh, it will not be at the expense of Christ or the teachings of the Holy Bible. I wouldn't see this movie if it was free. Think whatever you wish of me, but what I read about this movie indicates the devil working in a sly way to discourage and confuse our Christian young people. So, I would consider it garbage. Love In Christ, Tom Amen. Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: Tibby on June 16, 2004, 01:29:01 AM However, some people have said that the movie is Anti-Christian. As they said in the book Right Behind: "They think we are making fun of Christianity, but we are really just making fun of their Muppet version of it." In a church a few miles down the way, half the members, lead by the pastors sister, left because he said he didn’t believe in Pre-trib. They said he can’t be a Christian if he isn’t Pre-trib. So often Christians can be to close minded. Religion is a touchy topic, I know, but if God can us an ass to tell us the truth, surely he can use a disgruntled anti-Christian. So, many Christians say "I don't think I understand it all" but often I wonder how many beleive that... Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: Neo on June 16, 2004, 01:34:05 AM Either way, Saved! was amazing.
It didn't portray born-again Christians badly, just humorously. Again, I encourage y'all to go see it. :) Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: ollie on June 16, 2004, 05:04:37 PM Sounds to me like it is misrepresenting christianity. Trashing it. Whoa. Thats bound to be a smash hit. Any christian who supports this garbage needs to examine their relationship with Jesus. I don't care how funny other people say it is. "Why all the attacks on christianity? Because it is the one thing Satan is focused on. He does not need to lead people of other faiths away because they are already lost."Can you imagine the outrage if this was a movie poking fun of Islam?! Not a pleasant thought is it? Why all the attacks on christianity? Because it is the one thing Satan is focused on. He does not need to lead people of other faiths away because they are already lost. Hollywood needs Jesus not another stupid teen movie! Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: Jesusinme on June 26, 2004, 08:50:26 AM I would not see this movie! One of the reasons, Not mentioned here is : Has anyone considered the concept that if this movie or any like it do well at the box office, that just shows Hollywood that there is a desire for this kind of movie and then in turn they will continue to peddle more rubbish. I agree with Black Eyed peas. I believe The enemy is at work in these movies and I would not want to Make Money for satan! I did not see Bruce Almighty either
Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: Neo on June 26, 2004, 01:12:49 PM 1.) Bruce Almighty was amazing.
2.) So was Saved! 3.) Why would Satan need money? ??? Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: Tibby on June 26, 2004, 02:41:38 PM Has anyone considered the concept that if this movie or any like it do well at the box office, that just shows Hollywood that there is a desire for this kind of movie and then in turn they will continue to peddle more rubbish. It did not do better then the Passion. ::) Quote I did not see Bruce Almighty either "Either" implies you haven't see saved, I take it. In that case, stop talking trash about movies you have not seen yet. :P We can’t handle criticism, no matter how constructive, we scream “Heresy” when people disagree with us, and we say anything that doesn’t line up with our near view of Christianity is the work of Satan. Then we wonder why so many people are turned off by Christianity? Satan doesn’t need to keep people away, we are don’t a great job of it all by our selves. >:( Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: Sapphire W34P0N on June 26, 2004, 05:21:15 PM My girlfriend said Saved was like Passion meets Mean Girls, which I thought was an interesting mix.
And Bruce Almighty was actually pretty funny. Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: Jesusinme on June 29, 2004, 02:38:20 PM Has anyone considered the concept that if this movie or any like it do well at the box office, that just shows Hollywood that there is a desire for this kind of movie and then in turn they will continue to peddle more rubbish. It did not do better then the Passion. ::) Quote I did not see Bruce Almighty either "Either" implies you haven't see saved, I take it. In that case, stop talking trash about movies you have not seen yet. :P We can’t handle criticism, no matter how constructive, we scream “Heresy” when people disagree with us, and we say anything that doesn’t line up with our near view of Christianity is the work of Satan. Then we wonder why so many people are turned off by Christianity? Satan doesn’t need to keep people away, we are don’t a great job of it all by our selves. >:( Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: nChrist on June 29, 2004, 04:44:16 PM Quote JesusInMe Said: I guess I deserve that... You're absoulutly right Tibby , no I have seen neither movie mainly because of the reason I mentioned. However the trailers for these movies offended me. I do not care if there is a good moral or not. I will never post another review w/o seeing a movie first. I apologize If I offended anyone with what I posted. I think that most of Tibby's post was tongue in cheek. Regardless, there is nothing wrong with your opinion, and I share that opinion. There should be a concern about what effect films of this type will have on babes in Christ and those seriously searching for Christ. I don't see Jesus or the Holy Bible as being a Hollywood topic for humor, sarcasm, etc. Jesus and the Holy Bible are the most serious topics we have in this short life. Tibby will say that I'm an old fundamentalist, but I don't trust Hollywood with the souls of the lost, and I don't appreciate Hollywood making sport, humor, and entertainment out of Salvation, our Lord and Saviour, the Holy Bible, and any other Christian topic that is a matter of life and death for eternity. Tibby - I am an old fundamentalist, and I doubt that I will change. :D Love In Christ, Tom Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: Tibby on June 29, 2004, 05:30:52 PM Sometimes, people have legitimate reasons for disliking Christianity. So many Christians blow off this feeling by saying: “Oh, they just are mad because they don’t have the truth” or “The enemy has blinded their eyes” or “We are the true people of God, so we should except attacks like this.” DO you think this does anything to help the distracter see your point of view? No, things like this are the reason people are draw away from Christianity. Attitudes like that are the reason people make movies like “Saved” in the first place!
The Bible clearly states criticism is a good thing. A wiseman does well to at least listen to it. Don’t make me start quoting Proverbs on you people! :-D Besides, is this not an excellent opportunity to peer into the mind of an unsaved person? Would not such knowledge only strength your witnessing? This could be a great chance of a textbook study of the attitude the unsaved have toward Christians, and prepare to defend against it. All things work together for good... Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: NateyCakes on June 30, 2004, 04:33:52 PM I wouldn't see that movie! I think its blasphamy against the Lord and Christianity as a whole. It promotes homosexuality and it makes it look like ALL Christians are hypocrites, adulters, etc and it doesn't do a single thing to lead anyone to Jesus as:(
http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/6/172004c.asp (http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/6/172004c.asp) Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: Aiki Storm on June 30, 2004, 04:59:25 PM Any christian who supports this garbage needs to examine their relationship with Jesus. ==============================================Hmmm...aren't WE the prejudgemental one today... I'll say it again Any christian who supports this garbage needs to examine their relationship with Jesus Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: Sapphire W34P0N on June 30, 2004, 05:55:29 PM I'll say it again
Any christian who supports this garbage needs to examine their relationship with Jesus And today, too. Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: Tibby on June 30, 2004, 06:01:03 PM it makes it look like ALL Christians are hypocrites Well... :-\ Your article states “Basically the whole thing points to evangelical Christians as people who are mean-spirited, who use the Bible as a weapon, and who are hopelessly self-righteous and hypocritical.” It is really just propaganda? Even propaganda has to have some base in truth. Do not make me put the denomination card… ;D Is the story so far fetched? We have Preachers in this country who claim God told them to divorce their wife and marry another woman. Many youths feel you don’t have to wait till marriage, waiting till you find the right time is just as acceptable to them. I'll say it again Any christian who supports this garbage needs to examine their relationship with Jesus And it’s attitudes like that that no doubt inspired the movie. That is the Same attitude McCarthyism hold: If you question us, you are wrong. Why are you so cared of seeing your Faith questioned? If it is true, you have nothing to worry about, right? Listen to yourselves. Your reactions to this movie only proves the movies point further. You are judging a Movie you haven’t even seen. You are judging people who HAVE see it! The only thing you know about is what the Fundamentalists tell you about it, and they aren’t know for having the most accurate information, and you still attack a movie. Blindly lashing out against the film makers and anyone who doesn’t Hate the movie as passionately as you do. And when we do state points to the contrary, you ignore our posts, and continue your ranting. Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: Kris777 on June 30, 2004, 06:40:03 PM I don't know if I would want to see this movie. Could it be that Hollywood saw how much The Passion of the Christ made and want their share of money from movies of Christianity? And another question to ask is, will this movie draw people to God or will it make them mock Him. From what I seen in the movie trailors I think that this movie shows a lack of respect.
Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: Aiki Storm on June 30, 2004, 11:02:20 PM The trailer of this movie was not geared for christians. I can say that if Jesus was here in the flesh I would not want to take Him to see this.
Baby christians should stay away from this kind of garbage because they get a false sense of TRUE christianity. Just look at some of these posts. I would disagree about my attitude being like those who wrote this movie. In fact it gave me a good little chuckle ;D The person who wrote this movie was probably of the tolerent personality who would rather sit back and not stand of for their faith. Garbage. Garbage. Garbage. :D ::) Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: His_child on June 30, 2004, 11:45:11 PM Why is this movie called Saved?
Is there anything in this movie that would actually lead a person to Christ? Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: Tibby on July 01, 2004, 12:00:56 AM The trailer of this movie was not geared for christians. I can say that if Jesus was here in the flesh I would not want to take Him to see this. Really? That is funny, because he just Text messaged me and told me he would see the movie if you asked. ::) I think he likes you. He said something about your heart being pure, but to stop talking trash about movie you have not seen yet. I don't know, he has been in his trip about judgment lately, you know how it is. He is cool guy, but he always trying to show us up. Last weekend, at the party, I brought a 6 pack, the guy fills 2 empty kegs with water and turns them into Vodka! Then he stole Tammy right out from under me. I was like "Hey baby, I'm a Pol Sci major" and he was like "He baby, I'm the savior of all mankind." Just not right. How does one compete with that? And then there was the whole walking on water incident as the college's never pool. He didn't see the swim team practicing in his way. Yeah, our star swimmer. Then there was that whole scandal about using his fathers pull to get a 4.0 last semester. Yeah, take my word for it, hanging out with Jesus isn’t all its cracked up to be. ;D Of course, he is really useful when we only have one slice of pizza left. ;) Quote Baby christians should stay away from this kind of garbage because they get a false sense of TRUE christianity. Then they should stay away from the vast majority of Churches as well. We cannot just wrap them in plastic bubbles. That keeps them spiritually immature. What happens when they meet a false Christian in real life? I’d rather they learn the cold truth from a Movie, rather then a living example. Quote I would disagree about my attitude being like those who wrote this movie. In fact it gave me a good little chuckle ;D The person who wrote this movie was probably of the tolerent personality who would rather sit back and not stand of for their faith. Garbage. Garbage. Garbage. :D ::) Actually, when you read my post, you’ll see I never said your attitude it like that of the people who made the movie. I said your attitudes inspired those to made the movie. Similar to how Jesus inspired Mel Gibson to make the passions. ;) Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: Aiki Storm on July 02, 2004, 09:41:04 AM Sometimes, people have legitimate reasons for disliking Christianity. So many Christians blow off this feeling by saying: “Oh, they just are mad because they don’t have the truth” or “The enemy has blinded their eyes” or “We are the true people of God, so we should except attacks like this.” DO you think this does anything to help the distracter see your point of view? No, things like this are the reason people are draw away from Christianity. Attitudes like that are the reason people make movies like “Saved” in the first place! Attitudes like that, you say? Bad attitudes? Bad attitudes created this great movie you speak of? You couldn't pay me to see this! Jesus speaking here folks John 15:18-"If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. 19. If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you. The Bible clearly states criticism is a good thing. A wiseman does well to at least listen to it. Don’t make me start quoting Proverbs on you people! :-D Yes, please do begin quoting from scripture. Besides, is this not an excellent opportunity to peer into the mind of an unsaved person? So thats what this film is about; looking into the mind of the unsaved? :P Is that why you would go see it? Wouldn't you already know what it is like? Like the rest of us at one time. Would not such knowledge only strength your witnessing? This could be a great chance of a textbook study of the attitude the unsaved have toward Christians, and prepare to defend against it. All things work together for good... Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: Tibby on July 02, 2004, 04:26:24 PM Sometimes, people have legitimate reasons for disliking Christianity. So many Christians blow off this feeling by saying: “Oh, they just are mad because they don’t have the truth” or “The enemy has blinded their eyes” or “We are the true people of God, so we should except attacks like this.” DO you think this does anything to help the distracter see your point of view? No, things like this are the reason people are draw away from Christianity. Attitudes like that are the reason people make movies like “Saved” in the first place! Attitudes like that, you say? Bad attitudes? Bad attitudes created this great movie you speak of? You couldn't pay me to see this! No, not created, inspired. Your attitude inspired the creators to make the movie. How many times must I say that before you finally grasp it? It is not that hard of a concept to grasp. Even if you do not agree with it, you should be able to understand what I am saying. ::) Quote Jesus speaking here folks John 15:18-"If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. 19. If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you. Yes, it looks like jesus is right. You, of the world, hate this movie, because it shows what Christianity has become in America. Jesus is calling you out on a few issue through this movie, and you hate it. Quote The Bible clearly states criticism is a good thing. A wiseman does well to at least listen to it. Don’t make me start quoting Proverbs on you people! :-D Yes, please do begin quoting from scripture. Proverbs 11:14; 12:15; 15:22; 19:20; 20:18; 24:6 Quote Besides, is this not an excellent opportunity to peer into the mind of an unsaved person? So thats what this film is about; looking into the mind of the unsaved? :P Is that why you would go see it? Wouldn't you already know what it is like? Like the rest of us at one time. Sorry, no, I wouldn't. ::) Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: Aiki Storm on July 06, 2004, 11:08:02 AM Ephesians 51Be imitators of God, therefore, as dearly loved children 2and live a life of love, just as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.
3But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God's holy people. 4Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving. 5For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person--such a man is an idolater--has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. 6Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God's wrath comes on those who are disobedient. 7Therefore do not be partners with them. 8For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Live as children of light 9(for the fruit of the light consists in all goodness, righteousness and truth) 10and find out what pleases the Lord. 11Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. 12For it is shameful even to mention what the disobedient do in secret. 13But everything exposed by the light becomes visible, 14for it is light that makes everything visible. I pray that people come to know Jesus in such a way that it would hurt when their faith is mocked. As for me, I am done here with this forum as it is becoming very childish. Peace and God bless Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: Tibby on July 06, 2004, 12:46:36 PM I am hurt when JESUS is mocked, I will not be hurt when someone sees fit to write a satire about the man-made religions that claims to be Christian! Childish? You want to talk about Childish? Are claim any Christian who wishes to SEE the movie before making a judge have his salvation in question, and you dare say this forum is childish? This Forum has had about enough of you. Stop worshipping Christianity and start worshipping Christ! Feel free to some back when hit puberty. ::)
Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: His_child on July 06, 2004, 12:54:17 PM Well, that's a sweet and uplifting way to handle it when someone disagrees with you. ???
Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: Aiki Storm on July 06, 2004, 01:09:44 PM I am hurt when JESUS is mocked, I will not be hurt when someone sees fit to write a satire about the man-made religions that claims to be Christian! Childish? You want to talk about Childish? Are claim any Christian who wishes to SEE the movie before making a judge have his salvation in question, I NEVER SAID THAT! LOOKING AT THE PREVIEWS WAS ENOUGH. IT IS EASY TO SEE FROM THE PREVIEWS THAT IT WAS NOT IN JESUS FAVOR. YOU DONT HAVE TO GO SEE IT JUST TO FIND THAT OUT, HOPEFULLY. YOU SHOULDNT HAVE TO JUMP OFF THE EMPIRE STATE BUILDING JUST TO FIND OUT ITS A LONG WAY DOWN. and you dare say this forum is childish? WELL, MAYBE NOT THE FORUM, MAYBE JUST SOME OF YOUR COMMENTS. This Forum has had about enough of you.WOW! YOU REALLY TOOK THAT LAST PASSAGE OF SCRIPTURE TO HEART DIDN'T YOU! EPHESIANS 5 Stop worshipping Christianity and start worshipping Christ! I WORSHIP CHRIST JESUS, HOW ABOUT YOU? Feel free to some back when hit puberty. ::) DO WHAT?! ;D Well then, I guess I really didn't need to respond in my defense now did I? Your own comments are my defense! Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: Tibby on July 06, 2004, 01:15:57 PM Actually, "::)" would have been the proper smiley for your tone. ;)
What can I say, I am sick of these other Christians making the Church that I love a joke for everyone else! No one can to anything without the WASPs getting on their case! You cannot hold a contrary opinion. If you do, your salvation is in question. What is that? I do not recall boycotting "saved" to being on the list of prerequisites for salvation. I sick of Christians sing petitions to ban Fahrenheit 9-11 from the one theater that was playing it. I'm sick of Christians saying that if you did not like the Passion of Christ, you must not be a Christian. I'm sick of Christians making the Republican Party a requirement for salvation! I am pro-life, but you know what, If I change to pro-choice, my salvation is NOT an issue. Even if it was an issue, it is MY issue, no one else has the right to tell me my salvation is in question by God and the men he has put in authority over me! Sorry if I come out bitter or angry or mean, but that how I feel about these issues. Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: Sapphire W34P0N on July 06, 2004, 03:48:21 PM This has gotten so ridiculous...If Tibby wants to see a teen-summer-comedy, then let him. You sure don't have to, Aiki Storm, but don't judge him on it. It's a freakin' movie; seeing it does not bar you from getting into heaven. Get over it. It's in the theaters, and if you want to boycott it, I'm sure the producers will miss your seven bucks.
Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: nChrist on July 07, 2004, 01:42:53 AM WHEW!!! ??? Did I miss something?
I thought this was a discussion about a movie, not a condemnation of those who either see it or don't see it. I'm an older person who could probably be labeled a fundamentalist. I don't know what young people call old squares like me, but it really doesn't bother me. I stated an old square's opinion about this movie, but I didn't offer any condemnation about those who would or would not see it. However, it appears the rub may be between two young folks, and that's a shame. I would rather you make fun of me than be angry with each other over a movie. Old squares usually have a habit of stating what they believe to be the blunt truth, and I'm no exception. However, I do know that I'm an old square - I just don't plan to change. :D PLEASE!! - don't have a stroke or a heart attack over disagreeing on a movie. See it or don't see it. You will have decisions to make that are thousands of times the magnitude of this sooner or later. In the meantime, shake hands and call me an old square. Love In Christ, Tom Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: JudgeNot on July 07, 2004, 10:10:49 AM BEP Says:
Quote I don't know what young people call old squares like me, but it really doesn't bother me. According to my 17-year old daughter, the term is 'dork'. She uses it to describe me often.I just look at her, grin and say, "If it walks like a dork and talks like a dork..." ;D Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: Tibby on July 07, 2004, 11:45:02 AM A college age guy like me would call him a "goober" ;D
Title: Re:New Movie SAVED raises questions Post by: nChrist on July 07, 2004, 11:37:39 PM Oklahoma Howdy to JudgeNot and Tibby,
Brothers, I feel better now, but I don't know which term I like the best, "dork or goober". UM???, Goober was one of my favorite characters on the Andy Griffith Show, so I'll be Goober. Love, Goober |