Oklahoma Howdy to Lila,

Thanks for sharing with us. I love to hear what God does for HIS children. WELCOME! to the forum.

My wife of 31 years is a teacher, and we are proud grandparents. Jump in and have some fun.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Oklahoma Howdy to CarsNCandy,

If you learn how to use computers and the Internet, would you please give us a lesson?  

You will find a bunch of folks here who love Jesus.

Jump in and have some fun.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Oklahoma Howdy to Outrageous_Grace,

WELCOME! and may God bless your work.

Jump in and have some fun.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Neo & Nimble,

Both of you have already received warnings about obeying the forum rules. I have started deleting and/or modifying your posts, so that means I am close to voting for you to be banned.

You will NOT characterize, define, or limit Almighty God here. Your attempts to do so appear to be intentional mockery of Almighty God, and that will not be tolerated here. Your total ignorance and lack of respect to the Almighty is well noted.

This warning is public. One more violation of the forum rules and both of you will be involved in a magic act - your disappearance.

Moderator

if you read my post, you would know that you only strengthened my point. Math uses it for arguments sake. Infinite lines do not exist. Infinite is not a reality based concept. Can you point out anything REAL that is infinite? And if you claim it is infinite, how can you prove it? It is merely an arbitrary axiom accepted to further a mathematic principle. I mentioned nothing about throwing away math, and I did not attack theology in my post. I think you are being too defensive. I am through trying to argue the "non-existence" of god. I was just helping with the definition conflict you and Neo were having.

That may be somewhat positive, but there is still no evidence that you and the rest of the trolls on the forum right now read and understood the forum rules. You really shouldn't speak of math and science if you can't comprehend the meaning of the forum rules.

Moderator

Oklahoma Howdy to All,

There is no "works Gospel", just the Gospel of the Grace of God. However, I see the futility of trying to convince those who practice and preach a works Gospel. We can simply agree to disagree. If there is belief and faith in Jesus as the Lord and Saviour, the believer will be saved even if they feel Salvation must be paid for. Grace is a gift and the GIFT was Jesus Christ on the Cross. Jesus Paid It All, all to HIM I owe. I would simply suggest going back to the basics and trying to understand why Jesus Christ was crucified on the Cross and what it means.

Romans 5:21  That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.

By the way, I'm not joining the debate because there isn't one. Everything is by, through, or in Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour forever. Our assurance rests in HIM, not ourselves. The payment of HIS precious blood on the Cross was a perfect sacrifice, and "It is finished." In fact, it was finished over 2,000 years ago.

There are those who work because they feel that they must, and there are those who work simply from love and appreciation to our Lord and Saviour. Those that are not done simply in love and appreciation will be burned up.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Dreamweaver Said:

And the number one top Oxymoron.... 1. Microsoft Works

Thanks brother - I needed those laughs.

I want to know how in the world Bill Gates sold XP.  

After fighting with the OS for over a week, I am now an administrator of a one person network with one computer that almosts works now.  

Love In Christ,
Tom

Oklahoma Howdy to Candice,

Sister, there are still plenty of old fashioned churches and preachers that teach the Bible for all of the right reasons. The money issue, especially the fleecing of the elderly, makes me angry. The wealth and health gospel that doesn't exist also makes me angry. It sounds like you need to look for another church. This is just my personal thoughts, but I think that the small and plain churches are the best place to look.

Love In Christ,
Tom

[NO! - This is not right! - This is sin! - This is against the teachings of the Holy Bible!]

As a general rule, people don't care what the Bible has to say unless they are drawn to it by the Holy Spirit.

Personally, I think that your T-shirts mis-represent me, and Christ.  If you study Christ's actions, you'll see that the only people he was harsh with were the Teachers of the Law which is what

YOU
have made yourself out to be.

Candice,

I would have to completely disagree. It is simply a stand for what is right and Biblical. There is a serious lack of that these days by Christians. In fact, that is a big problem that is responsible for the erosion of morals and the decline of our society. Everything is OK, and nobody stands up and says, NO! - This is not right! - This is sin! - This is against the teachings of the Holy Bible!  

The "everything goes" and silent Christians problem has resulted in a nation turning its back on Almighty God. There is a huge list of things that are not OK that have become almost the norm because Christians don't stand up and speak up. Evil is overtaking just about everything.

It is far past time for Christians to stand up and speak up. In fact, we ought to hold our brothers and sisters in Christ up and pray for them when they take a stand for good and God. Better yet, we should stand up and join them. There is nothing OK about the evil we have allowed into our schools, our homes, and our families. You could take a tiny example, like television, and see what the Holy Bible says. It's not being legalistic to say that most of what's on television is filth and should be turned off. Escalate the examples to dope, alcohol, lifestyles, and a host of other conditions that represent depravity, sin, destruction, and disobedience to God.

Candice, this is not legalistic. This is a Christian taking a stand on what is right and Biblical. We have arrived at a time in history where it is difficult to walk through our own homes without dealing with evil.

Love In Christ,
Tom

I have yet to see a definition of god in 3 pages of responses. Way to dodge the question. I will not respond until i see one.

You make statements, claims, and "proofs", and refuse to address the points raised about them.  You apparently have less than a seven minute memory of what you said yourself, but refuse to address it when caught on the point by two posters.  You attempt to dictate how others respond to your post.   Spot the Troll.

Ebia,

I must agree with you for once. Neo and Nimble are both trolls hunting Christians. You have a target on your back also.

Tom

Bronzesnake Said:

neo my friend. If only you would put aside your cynicism and approach God with humility and honesty. You would then begin to understand the real meaning of His words, instead of using them out of context, as a platform for sarcasm.

Bronzesnake.

Oklahoma Howdy to Bronzesnake,

Brother, I don't think it is sarcasm on Neo's part. It's trolling and Christian hunting. We are the prey, and he is the superior intellect hunting us, or so he thinks. He's really pretty sad.

I've been down without a computer for over a week, and this is my first day back with a working computer. We both know there is nothing morally bankrupt about the Holy Bible. In fact, we both know that the Holy Bible is the cure for Neo, but it is currently an object of scorn and mockery for Neo.

I think that we all need to pray for Neo, but he will consider that another joke about intellectually inferior Christians. He's pretty sad.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Here is a groaner in honor of BlackEyedPeas and the tenth anniversary of the Simpson low speed chase.

Q.  Why do cops in LA drink coffee with their donuts?

A.  It takes them three hours to get OJ.

Oklahoma Howdy to Michael_Legna,

     Whew!!! - That case showed that the criminal justice system doesn't work when big money is involved. I know some excellent officers in LA who will always have heartburn over that case. Besides, coffee is the only thing that goes really well with donuts.    The Oklahoma version of that chase would have taken about 5 minutes.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Ollie,

You are not part of it. I assume they are talking about the Catholic humiliation threads that a few worked so diligently on since 12-2003. That's what turned a fairly large portion of the forum into a war zone. Very few of the regular folks here had anything at all to do with it. Take a look in debate and you will easily see it.

Love In Christ,
Tom

[Drum Roll - Trumpets:THE CLONE SIX-PACK]

Brother Love, The Crusader, Ambassador4Christ, Warrior for Christ, Cyber Pope, His Messenger, & Whoever else said:

So few will be saved...

No Wonder

It sounds like a job for:

Drum Roll - Trumpets:

THE CLONE SIX-PACK

You wanted it - you got it.

yes it is an older model I built. Back when Pen II 233 MXX came out. :eek:
I need to build another one thats faster but, I need to have enough money to build another one. :eek:

Oklahoma Howdy to DreamWeaver,

I wished that I had the ability to build one. One would not believe how low the prices are for components not considered to be mainstream and modern (i.e. Pentium III parts, motherboard, etc.).

I still haven't put my new one up. I couldn't believe how many files I really need to save for the move. At least the instructions don't make it appear to be as big a job as I first thought. The new stuff is very light compared to my old stuff, so maybe my back will survive.

Love In Christ,
Tom