uh...passion of charles  

 Did you laugh?

 

...BEP...you can`t fool a woman that easily..the twitch gave you away  

*tiptoes in*


  I couldn't help it, I laughed!


*tiptoes out*

gross gender betrayal!

*as per clause in bug reports I exercise my right to make a citizens arrest

GO DIRECTLY TO JAIL!  

 

blackeyedpeas says: Reference the pink lawn mowers, we knew that was coming. We don't care since the women will be running them.

Are we really so against cruel and unusual punishment?




*mutters*  ...now if a the judge were a WOMAN...

Luk 16:11  If therefore ye have not been faithful in the unrighteous mammon, who will commit to your trust the true riches?

amen!

I like that!  

I think a happy marriage is the union of two willing sacrificers  

This might help clarify what I have tried to explain...

There are many terms that we use which were not used in the Bible, but designate scriptural facts or principles. Take the word "rapture," for example. Where is it found in the Bible? It isn't. What about the word "Bible" itself? It isn't found in the "Holy Bible" either, but was coined to describe the collection of divinely inspired books which we now claim as the supreme authority of our confession and our faith. So... just because being "slain in the Spirit" is not precisely mentioned does not mean that it is not a scriptural practice.

Secondly, let me say that there are many practices in the modern church for which we can find no corresponding practice in the early church. Take the "mourner's bench" or "altar" for example. The Bible shows us several occasions on which saints built altars and prayed to God, perhaps offering sacrifices of thanksgiving or praise. But where in the scriptures do we see a specific structure built (or even a specific place designated) as a place for sinners to pray a repentant prayer, and receive the Lord Jesus as their personal Savior and Lord? We don't. The "mourner's bench" took its place in the heritage of the church around the time of that greatly successful evangelist Charles G. Finney. Yet today many of us (and with good reason) decry the churches that have removed those wooden structures that we call "altars."

Thirdly, it seems to me that you may have a misconception of being "slain in the Spirit." There are many men today who blow on people, hit people, shove people, and break peoples' necks (an exaggeration). Being knocked down on the floor by a blow from a man's hand or his mouth is not being "slain in the Spirit." That is being "knocked over by a man" and has no spiritual connotations at all.

Notice with me, though, the reactions of some of the greatest men in the Bible when they came into the Presence of the Lord. Take Daniel, that man in whom even his enemies could find no fault except in his unswerving service to the Lord. What happened to Daniel when he came into the Presence of God's Spirit? "And I heard a man's voice between the banks of Ulai, which called, and said, Gabriel, make this man to understand the vision. So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision. Now as he was speaking with me, I was in a deep sleep on my face toward the ground: but he touched me, and set me upright" (Daniel 8:16 - 18).

We may even conclude that Daniel here was only in the presence of an angel. And whether it was the "man's voice" (Christ's voice) or the presence of the angel that thus affected Daniel, are we to expect that our response to such an awesome and holy Presence will be any more "dignified" than his? Now let us look at John's response...

"And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man . . . And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not. (Revelation 1:13, 17) And this is that disciple whom "Jesus loved" and who laid his head on Jesus' breast at the "Last Supper." And in saying that he fell at the Savior's feet "as dead," John even lends credibility to our use of the word "slain" in the term "slain in the Spirit."

In conclusion, let us say that being "slain in the Spirit" should be the result of an overwhelming sense of unworthiness and awe in the presence of the Holy Spirit of God. It should not be imitated by using physical force or deceitful practices. Finally, though it is not named specifically in the Word of God as being "slain in the Spirit," there are several examples of happenings in the Bible that coincide closely with what true Pentecostals call being "slain in the Spirit."

Pat answers are not always appropriate, without considering the whole picture. First, there are numerous cases in the Bible of people who had divine visitations and experiences which resulted in their falling prostrate. (Gen. 15:12; 1 Sam.19:24; Daniel 8:17,18; 10:16; Acts 9:4; 10:10;) The Methodists' and other great revivals of church history have been been characterized by such phenomena. However, the experience seems not to have been a passing, light emotion, but rather a powerful impacting of the person's life and left a lasting impression, often resulting in a positive, marked change in distinct areas of their lives. It cannot be denied that some of what we see now may be the operation of occult or psychic powers, manipulation, suggestion, or mind control. Discernment must always be exercised. The Word is our standard for judging, and the fruit must be "unto godliness" in the person whose ministry is being questioned. (2 Tim. 3:10-15; 2 Thess. 2:9; Matt. 7:15,16;. 2 Pet. chapter 2 and the epistle of Jude describe the character of false teachers/prophets, thereby enabling us to recognize them.


http://misslink.org/chapel/askaminister/renewal/slain4.html

[but]

Too many people worship Satan and believe they are worshipping God. Their own hearts deceive them.

The scriptures you used agrees with that statement.

However the only scripture you used that even remotely has to do with the subject we are discussing is this one...

John 18:6 As soon then as he had said unto them, I am he, they went backward, and fell to the ground.

... and you believe they fell to the ground not because of the power of the "I am" they were confronted with, but rather because of satan?

A big light bulb went off in Satan’s head, he made the connection. Falling backward was a substitute for fire from heaven.

Hello?  where did you get that from?

I have given you strong scriptural support to show that the slaying in the spirit phenomenon is not a blessing from God.

Strong scriptural support? where? we both know that expression is used in the NT scriptures, yea or nay

God warns us about the signs and wonders movement. You would be wise to pay attention.

There are obviously many phonies who are trying to capitalize on the vulnerability of believers,which  is percisely why God`s Word tells us to be filled with the spirit, so we can discern wether a any manifestation is actually from Him, and it must be  by knowing the truth (the Word) that keeps people following faithfully, not displays of power,  but I would not, and cannot, presume to  limit the way God has, or will, deal with individual believers or sinners

Heb 2:3  How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard [him];
Heb 2:4  God also bearing [them] witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?

I said the spirit of God teaches us Cris, I didnt say everyone listens  


Joh 14:17  [Even] the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

Joh 16:13  Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, [that] shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

And all of them claim the Holy Spirit resides in them.

Mat 7:21  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Joh 3:21  But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

Joh 7:17  If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or [whether] I speak of myself.

Why do brides dress in white? All appliances come in white.

[greater is he that is in you]

I did not mean to imply we do not need teachers and preachers of the Word Chris, but that it`s the Spirit of God  which gives us the ability to understand and discern the truths of the word as read or taught to us.

1Jo 4:4  Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
1Jo 4:5  They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1Jo 4:6  We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

Joh 14:26  But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

1Jo 2:27  But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

We must also be wary of the fact that a "shepherd"  may not following the commandment to "feed His sheep", i`ll use this example:

Ezekiel 34:2-4 Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy and say to them, even to the shepherds of Israel, thus says the LORD GOD: Ho, shepherds of Israel who have been feeding yourselves! Should not shepherds feed the sheep? You eat the fat, you clothe yourselves with wool, you slaughter the fatlings; but you do not feed the sheep. The weak you have not strengthened, the sick you have not healed, the crippled you have not bound up, the strayed you have not brought back, the lost you have not sought, and with force and harshness you have ruled them.

or this one:

Jeremiah 2:8 The priests did not say, "Where is the Lord?" Those who handle the law did not know me; the rulers transgressed against me; the prophets prophesied by Baal, and went after things that did not profit.

So if we don`t read the Word for ourselves, and allow the Spirit of God to be our guide, we can be easily deceived

Also watch you dont blaspheme (to vilify; specifically to speak impiously: defame, rail on, revile, speak evil of) the Holy Ghost  by calling evil something you dont understand, especially the things of the Spirit.

16. What you repeatedly hear you will eventually believe.

 

18. When FATIGUE moves into your life, FAITH move out.

 

 

am4c did you slip on a banana peel  

29. You will never reach the palace talking like a peasant.  

crusader do you want a slap up the side of the head with a banana peel  

He would chuck all the wood that a woodchuck could chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood.

See the perfect logic here?

Now that's just silly.  Have you even polled a significant number of woodchucks to determine the willingness of the general population?  

LOL!