What is wrong with cloning?

[arunangelo]

The very essence of human existence is love, because, we are created in the image of God (who is love) (Gen. 1:27) and are a product of God’s love expressed through our parents union of love (Eph 5:25).  Artificial insemination, in-vitro fertilization and cloning procedures therefore, dehumanize human reproduction, by taking the act of unitive love (Gen. 2:24) out of it and converting it into a purely cellular process. Furthermore, during in-vitro fertilization and cloning procedures, lethal violence is committed against many human beings, who (as embryos) are destroyed; thus breaking God’s commandment (Exodus 20:13). Some of these procedures also deprive the resultant human beings the dignity of knowing their origin (biological parents), causing them grave injustice and psychological trauma.  Unitive love, which is conjugal union in marriage, is inseparable from procreation, because, conjugal union’s physiological purpose is procreation. These procedures, therefore, dehumanizes unitive love. This causes division, divorce and turmoil.  Therapeutic cloning, human beings are cloned, then killed in their embryonic stage and then their cells are harvested for medical use. This procedure, therefore, is one-step up in its evil intend compared to the other type of cloning.

  Biologically, our humanity is determined by our genetic make up and not by our stage of development.  Furthermore, an embryo is a stage in human development; just as infant, toddler, youth and adult are. Therefore, to justify killing of frozen embryos, which are doomed to die from being discarded, is similar to killing prisoners in the concentration camp for research, because they are doomed to die.

[bluelake]

Cloning?? this reminds me of a story I just read in one of my Daily Devotionals.
 A couple of scientist decided they could do without God. So they Told God just that. 'We don't need you anymore. We can create men now.' God listened patiently, then said to them, 'Alright, Lets have a man making contest. We'll do it like I did in the beginning. The scientists agreed. They reached down for a handful of dirt, God said, '"no, you get your own dirt.."  

Who created the world and everything in it?

God bless you,
bluelake

[darwinatridge]

The interesting thing about this topic is that although man may someday be able to clone a human, the question that remaims is. Can man clone Gods spirit to put inside that human clone? I don't beleive so. The next question then will be. If that cloned body does not have a spirit will that open the door for an evil spirit to come in and inhabit that clone? Quit possible!

[Bronzesnake]

 Whenever man gets a hold of a life altering scientific formula, he always creates a monster.

 Iran is telling the world that there nuclear ambitions are peaceful, and only for energy. Ya, right!

 Nuclear technology can be and is being used to do great things, however, it is also being used to cause great harm, and is capable of anhilating the planet.

 Hitler had grand designs for a "superior" human race.

We should leave creation up to God - He knows what He is doing - we don't.

[Shammu]

We should leave creation up to God - He knows what He is doing - we don't.

AMEN BRNZ!

[Gaurav]

Hey
God truly does know what He is doing and why should we mess with his creation? Cloning could be used for good, for example, doctors can clone tisues, which will help relieve donor shortages. However, as is mostly the case, humans will use cloning for evil and play God. This will results in overall neagtivity; it's not right for humans to play God.

[bettyboop]

 I agree that God is the only on that create a soul.Do scientists have any idea what the implications would be if their clone had no soul?

[Soldier4Christ]

I agree that God is the only on that create a soul.Do scientists have any idea what the implications would be if their clone had no soul?

Hi, betty. Welcome to Christians Unite.

First those scientists need to believe that there is a soul before they would be concerned with that aspect. Those scientists that do believe are against cloning for these reasons. The others simply attempt to elevate themselves to the  level of God by saying they can create life.

[bettyboop]

Thanks for the welcome.I thank God that there are enough scientist that believe in the soul,to be against cloning.There's a lot of good that has come from scientific experiments,but they need to stop short of playing God.

[bettyboop]

I ran across something interesting about cloning.Although I believe that scientist playing God is enough for me to be against cloning,the following information should make scientists think twice about human cloning.

Human cloning may mean cloned children die very young - cloning experiments on mice in Japan show damage to immune systems, risks of death from pneumonia, liver failure, spontaneous abortions and abnormal births. 10 out of 12 cloned mice born apparently healthy at birth lived less than 800 days.  Source: Scotsman

The same article talks about Dolly the sheep dieing of old age.
It seems that the the age indicators are present in the parents genes,and the clone will die of old age in a short time after being born.
  How could scientist even think about cloning a human knowing they would not live long?It would be unfair to the child,unfair to the parents and unfair to God.
http://www.globalchange.com/clonenews.htm

[dcyple]

The reality to the old age thing is they want to use embryonic cells first, so the old age thing wouldn't be there, because an aborted fetus doesn't have a chance to grow old. Maybe they can just take the murdered soul and use it. still ain't right

[Phil121]

I agree that God is the only on that create a soul.Do scientists have any idea what the implications would be if their clone had no soul?

I saw a program on Origins that specifically addressed this. The scientist (who was definitely against cloning) felt that human clones WOULD have souls.

Another interesting point he brought up was that scientists have created human-bovine(cow) hybrids. He felt it was attempt to circumvent laws against human cloning.

[curious]

         Hello all:

    I have several reasons why cloning shouldn't be allowed.
  1. If man were to clone a person,they would think Man was God,not that alot don't think that already.
  2. I don't think they would have souls,because God is the ONLY one that can make a soul.
    Man already thinks too much of himself as he is !! You don't need to add gas to the fire by suggesting cloning .

                            Yours in Yeshua,
                            curious

[ollie]

The very essence of human existence is love, because, we are created in the image of God (who is love) (Gen. 1:27) and are a product of God’s love expressed through our parents union of love (Eph 5:25).  Artificial insemination, in-vitro fertilization and cloning procedures therefore, dehumanize human reproduction, by taking the act of unitive love (Gen. 2:24) out of it and converting it into a purely cellular process. Furthermore, during in-vitro fertilization and cloning procedures, lethal violence is committed against many human beings, who (as embryos) are destroyed; thus breaking God’s commandment (Exodus 20:13). Some of these procedures also deprive the resultant human beings the dignity of knowing their origin (biological parents), causing them grave injustice and psychological trauma.  Unitive love, which is conjugal union in marriage, is inseparable from procreation, because, conjugal union’s physiological purpose is procreation. These procedures, therefore, dehumanizes unitive love. This causes division, divorce and turmoil.  Therapeutic cloning, human beings are cloned, then killed in their embryonic stage and then their cells are harvested for medical use. This procedure, therefore, is one-step up in its evil intend compared to the other type of cloning.

  Biologically, our humanity is determined by our genetic make up and not by our stage of development.  Furthermore, an embryo is a stage in human development; just as infant, toddler, youth and adult are. Therefore, to justify killing of frozen embryos, which are doomed to die from being discarded, is similar to killing prisoners in the concentration camp for research, because they are doomed to die.

One of everybody is enough!
With all the whoring/adultery/fornication that result in births out of wedlock, why would it be necessary to clone? Only to satisfy science's insatiable appetite and perhaps increase someone's power in the world.

God has the plan for new creatures. It is us reborn in Christ and all who would come to Him.

ollie

[Gaurav]

Hey

A human in his power can try the best to make something perfect but only God can create perfect things. If we try to make things, which have been created by God, then the end result will only result in imperfection.


Humans make many things but these things are not perfect. Take for example airplanes. Despite human technological advances, there is still a risk that planes can crash. The same ideal can be applied to cloning.