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Florida_Catholic
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Republicans have not Banned Abortion?
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Why do you think Republicans have not banned abortion?
Republicans hold a majority in all three branches of government.
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They are cowards. As of yesterday i am no longer a republican.. I have not been a democrat for about 30 years....
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Re:Republicans have not Banned Abortion?
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Maybe because:
1. They're afraid of starting another war, or
2. They aren't sure how to use their power, or
3. They're afraid of the democrats, (back to #1), or
4. They don't want to deal with it, or
5. They believe in choice, or
6. They feel banning abortion won't stop it but rather create
an illegal butcher shop.
7. Who really knows?
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Re:Republicans have not Banned Abortion?
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Quote from: Reba on May 24, 2005, 10:54:36 PM
They are cowards. As of yesterday i am no longer a republican.. I have not been a democrat for about 30 years....
Heading in that direction myself!!!
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Quote from: cris on May 24, 2005, 11:11:58 PM
Quote from: Reba on May 24, 2005, 10:54:36 PM
They are cowards. As of yesterday i am no longer a republican.. I have not been a democrat for about 30 years....
Heading in that direction myself!!!
Mmmm
Could this mean Hillary(sp?) might be our next president?
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The only difference between the 2 parties is how they deal with abortion. The demos are for it, the repbulicans do not say they are for it, but their lack of action speaks LOUDLY.
O for a man to love the God given place of his birth...
IF my people who are called by my name........
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Re:Republicans have not Banned Abortion?
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Quote from: Florida_Catholic on May 24, 2005, 10:43:11 PM
Why do you think Republicans have not banned abortion?
Republicans hold a majority in all three branches of government.
Probably for the same reason they couldn't get a simple up or down vote for judges. Add the word "Judicial" to "Political", and it should become apparent this will be a long fight.
There has been more anti-abortion work and progress in the last several years than in the entire history since Roe vs. Wade. There have even been some victories, even though the goal wasn't reached. So far, nobody has mentioned the hardest obstacle to get around - THE JUDICIAL. Those who have fought the battle from the beginning know that the Constitutional arguments are what has to be overcome. It won't do any good to pass new legislation just to have it declared Unconstitutional.
Here's what should be a given in this discussion:
Democrats are pro-choice - for abortion.
Republicans are pro-life - against abortion.
If Democrats have their way, Roe vs. Wade will be etched in granite forever, and no amount of work will ever be able to undo it. In fact, this is part of the Democratic platform.
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3 Reasons (with the most important last):
1. Because it is not the Republican thing to do. The Republican is pro-states rights. A TRUE conservative Republican, but definition, does not believe the Federal Government should have the power to make these kinds of Choices for the state. To do such a thing would be totally against the party platform. To make a general law outlawing abortion would overturn hunderds of state laws all over the nation!
2. There is a WAR going on. Post-birth humans are dying, and personally, I think that take priority over the unborn. Yes, unborn are still important, and it is sad that they die, but people who are living without the help of another human body, and who, in fact, support OTHER humans with their paycheck (including the unborn), are dying overseas. That is a LITTLE more important. Can't you guys want till after we get this Iraq business settled to start throwing temper tantrums about abortion?
3. This is the most important reason why they haven’t done anything since taking Power: You! And by you, and mean all of you anti-gay marriage people! You are all too hooked on stupid issue like Gay Marriage. There is not a major outcry from the banning of abortion because all of the Christians want to tell people how to live their lives. If everyone would stop getting so hung up on what sinners are doing, many they will have time to talk about Abortion! As it is, you guys have Congress running circles around that stupid gay marriage amendment! Congress only has so much time to cover the issues, and if we would stop giving them stupid things like this to deal with, then maybe they could start talking about Abortion, and other issues that matter!
On top of all of that, while the GOP does have some power, it is still pretty even. We are not talking about a 2/3rds majority needed. Laws this big would more then likely take a 2/3rds vote. So, even is State rights wasn't as issue, and the combat was over, and Congress wasn't being bothers with lesser issues, then the likelihood of this law getting any further then a Standing Committee is not likely.
Just my 2 cents... and a little change left over for a coke
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Re:Republicans have not Banned Abortion?
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I must agree with Beps. It took 40 yrs of liberalism of both Judicial and Executive branches to get this nation into the condition that it is. There is not going to be an easy "fix". It is definitely a major battle that is going to take awhile to accomplish. The Judicial situation is a must to be corrected first and even that has shown to be quite an undertaking.
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Re:Republicans have not Banned Abortion?
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Conservative = live baby
Liberal = dead baby
One can no longer consider Republicans as being conservative. I think there are as many Democrat conservatives as there are Republican.
Compare the likes of Joe Lieberman (D) and Zell Miller (D) to the likes of George Voinovich (R) and Arlen Specter (R).
I wouldn't support Voinovich or Specter for anything above latrine lieutenant, while I’d support Lieberman or Miller for any office.
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Re:Republicans have not Banned Abortion?
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Quote from: Tibby on May 25, 2005, 04:45:11 AM
2. There is a WAR going on. Post-birth humans are dying, and personally, I think that take priority over the unborn. Yes, unborn are still important, and it is sad that they die, but people who are living without the help of another human body, and who, in fact, support OTHER humans with their paycheck (including the unborn), are dying overseas. That is a LITTLE more important. Can't you guys want till after we get this Iraq business settled to start throwing temper tantrums about abortion?
Just my 2 cents... and a little change left over for a coke
Deaths since 2001:
In Afghanistan...............153
In Iraq..........................1,648
On US Highways.............152,655
In abortion clinics...........5,480,000
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Re:Republicans have not Banned Abortion?
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Quote from: Evangelist on May 25, 2005, 02:13:37 PM
Deaths since 2001:
In Afghanistan...............153
In Iraq..........................1,648
On US Highways.............152,655
In abortion clinics...........5,480,000
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Quote from: Evangelist on May 25, 2005, 02:13:37 PM
Deaths since 2001:
In Afghanistan...............153
In Iraq..........................1,648
On US Highways.............152,655
In abortion clinics...........5,480,000
As I said before, the death of independently living human who support OTHER human lives are more important.
A unborn baby dies=one live that barely started to live
A solider dies=his life, and the life of his pregnant wife and kids are forever altered for the worse.
How can you even start to imply the death of an unborn is more important then the death of someone who risks their life to keep you safe, and feed his family on the low pay of enlisted men. Have you even been to area of a military base where the enlisted families live, Evangelist? It’s a ghetto! Most of them are on food stamps! Even with the cheep food they can get from the commissary and the tax free ideas from the PX, they are still on welfare, all to keep your freedom sacred. This flippant aptitude that the babies have done nothing other but mooch of the body of their mothers for their short lives are somehow more valuable them the lives of a Husband and father who gives his life for his country is ntohign short of offensive!
If I had the choice between a 1000 unborn or one Solider with a family, no contest, I would pick the solider every time!
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Quote from: JudgeNot on May 25, 2005, 11:13:01 AM
I think there are as many Democrat conservatives as there are Republican.
And I think you need to become a little more imformed in the area of American Politics before posting something like this.
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Tibby, I don't think anyone but you is placing
more emphasis
on which life has more value. Clearly there is a problem with abortion in this country period! Can you determine the purpose of anyones life before its even started?
Is the value of life determined by ones contribution to the world? Or is it determined by the value God gives it? You will note that Christ died for ALL....not just those contributing to society.
Life is life, and God is the one who gives it. People die in everyday circumstances leaving wives and children behind. Unborns being
slaughtered
is quite another thing. However, sin is the cause of it all! God help us to see the world through your eyes, and not our own.
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If I had the choice between a 1000 unborn or one Solider with a family, no contest, I would pick the solider every time!
Do we get to choose which soldier to kill off in war? How about unborns who are aborted? Call it a hunch, but I'm guessing most soldiers understand the potential sacrifice they face for the lives back home. I wonder how many unborns have this understanding?
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