Biblical Creation vs. Evolution

[Soldier4Christ]

As can be clearly seen in the article these scientists claim to be "creating" life using "Darwinian evolution". Both of these statements are totally incorrect. In the first place Dawinian evolution does not have a leg to stand on and what these scientists are doing is using already existing DNA and cells to encourage the growth of an already existing life form. They are not "creating" anything except in the very loosest use of the word as they are not making something out of nothing.

[nChrist]

As can be clearly seen in the article these scientists claim to be "creating" life using "Darwinian evolution". Both of these statements are totally incorrect. In the first place Dawinian evolution does not have a leg to stand on and what these scientists are doing is using already existing DNA and cells to encourage the growth of an already existing life form. They are not "creating" anything except in the very loosest use of the word as they are not making something out of nothing.

Hello Pastor Roger,

Brother, this is exactly what I was thinking while reading the article. The scientists haven't created anything, and they never will. They are simply playing with something that GOD has already created. I never cease to be amazed about how far some so-called scientists will go to hang onto the old evolution lies. The facts that they give about their experiments indicate that they don't have a clue about the REAL CREATOR.

[Soldier4Christ]

PINING TO EVOLVE Many people in Australia, New Zealand, Chile and South
Africa will be familiar with tree plantations of Pinus radiata (Monterey or
Radiata pine) throughout the rural landscape. The genes of Pinus radiata have
been one of the most selected gene pools of trees on the planet. A native of
western USA, it has been planted on more than 4 million hectares around the
world. Tree breeding programs have been undertaken now for many decades to
select desirable timber characteristics including straight timber grain, high
growth rates and small branch size. But the bad news is the native population of
8,500 hectares of pine trees on Monterey Island near California is currently
threatened with extinction and a fungal disease called pitch canker is putting
the native populations at further risk. Strange, since the native pine trees
still have the widest range of genes for the whole species, and since scientists
are combing the world for native gene pools to use in breeding programs because
of their greater gene pool.

ED.COM. All of which brings to light a weakness which has been in the
evolutionist's basic argument since the days of Darwin. Domestic selection, even
over many decades, has never enhanced genetic diversity. Darwin was wrong to
conclude that domestic selection was like a natural selection process that
resulted in the evolution of new life forms. All known cases of increased
specialisation due to selection have only led to devolution and a reduction in
genetic information from the original kind. Nothing has evolved. Our Monterey
pine selection has only decreased the pine trees gene pool as we sought to
increase specialisation in the types of trees we have bred.

Natural selection works in the same way. Pine trees, pumpkins and petunias are
reproducing after their own kind just as the Bible says God created them to.
Evolutionary science is completely barking up the wrong tree when it concludes
natural selection is an uphill process!

[Soldier4Christ]

FLOOD FOSSIL FERNS FOUND near old gold field as we find catastrophic flood
deposit of beautiful land plants in marine Permian limestones. See PICTURES and
more details on

http://www.creationresearch.net/research/Gympie_limestone_site.htm

It is exciting to show that flood based catastrophic rapid deposition is the mode around Gympie where we recently spent 10 days in high schools and churches as well as research.

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HUMAN EYES ARE BADLY DESIGNED with an “inverted” retina, challenge many
skeptics. Now new discovery proves optical fiber design is found in human eye
reports ScienceSHOTS and Proceedings of the Nation Academy of Sciences, vol.
104, p8287, 15 May 2007. When light enters the eye it has to penetrate several
layers of cells in the retina (the light sensitive layer at the back of the eye)
before it gets to the cells that convert light to electrical signals. This
structure is sometimes called the “inverted retina” because the cell layers seem
to be arranged the wrong way around for collecting a clear image. A group of
German scientists has studied some cells in the retina called Müller cells.
These are long thin cells that span all the layers in the retina and are
arranged parallel to the path of incoming light. The researchers found that the
Müller cells act like optical fibres in helping transmit light through the
layers without being distorted. The researchers concluded, “Thus, Müller cells
seem to mediate image transfer through the vertebrate retina with minimal
distortion and low loss. This finding elucidates a fundamental feature of the
inverted retina as an optical system and ascribes a new function to glial
cells.” The ScienceSHOTS item comments. “Not a bad trick for a camera designed
500 million years ago.”

ED. COM. The “inverted” retina has been claimed by sceptics as an example of
“unintelligent design” and that it really came about because of an accident of
evolution millions of years ago. However, when human curiosity prevails over
evolutionary prejudices and scientists actually study the retina they find that
it is very well designed, no matter how long ago they think it was designed. The
study described above is a challenge to all who claim that you cannot understand
biology unless you believe in evolution. The scientists studying the retina made
their discovery in spite of evolutionary theory, not because of it.

[Soldier4Christ]

THE UNIVERSE IS SO FULL OF BAD DESIGN, this proves evolution and defeats
creation, was the claim made in the  Debate held Thursday 2nd August 2007 at the
University of Melbourne: The Rationalist Society of Australia vs Creation
Research. Rationalist president Ian Robinson claimed.

1) Poor design shows in structures such as the human throat because you can
choke. The human eye is poorly designed because of the blind spot it has, and
because of the retina being inverted, likewise since whales need to come to the
surface to breathe making them susceptible to being killed by human hunters, no
clever Creator would have done this.

2) Design implies a need to find a solution to a problem, so what problem did
God have that He was trying to solve by designing a Universe? Genesis is silent
on this matter, so if there is no stated problem, the Universe is not a designed
solution.

The debate did not follow a typical format which has each speaker given 15
minutes to present a case, alternating between sides, followed by time to refute
your opponents claims in public. There was no allowed refutation time so we
insisted there must be a 30 minute question time from the public. Having a
chairman who was Professorial Head of the Philosophy dept, we now realise we
should also have insisted this included the opportunity to answer the questions
as well. We were outsmarted (or outdummed) on this totally, and so the following
is the most important refutation of the above Rationalist claims about bad
design we would have made if we had the time instead of having only a summary
conclusion at the end. (Compiled by Craig Hawkins, John Mackay and Diane Eager).

STARTING PHILOSOPHY:

All the claims of biological bad design by the rationalists have one serious
fault - when they can show that they have designed a better throat /eye etc –
their opinion will be worthy of consideration, particularly in the light of the
booming bioengineering industry that is seeking to mimic biological design –
because it works so well. Until they can design better working throats etc, they
must be considered amateurs whose criticisms are both ignorant and arrogant.

Consider the following biological features :

Design in the Human Throat

The claimed bad design is that the nose sits above the mouth and takes in air,
which then goes down the throat behind the nose and mouth. It then is directed
forward through the larynx (voicebox) and down the trachea (windpipe). In the
meantime the mouth takes in food and drink. When this is swallowed it passes
over the top of the larynx to the back of the throat and then down the
oesophagus (food pipe). Because anything we swallow has to go past the larynx,
food or liquids may “go down the wrong way” and cause people to choke or become
ill because inhaled material has carried infection into the lungs.

If the mouth, nose and throat were just passive spaces with rigid walls this
would be bad design, but they are really part of an actively moving system that
(a) carries out important functions for human life and (b) has built-in backup
systems.

The most important result of having the mouth and nose both opening into the
throat is that breathing which is so essential to life, has an instant backup
system. If the nose is blocked we can breathe through our mouths. Never forget
the science fiction story that described an Alien that had its mouth down near
its stomach, completely separated from it nose, which was on its head. Such a
creature would die if it got a cold or was punched in the nose.

Another very important result of having the mouth connected to the airways is
that we can speak. The larynx produces sound as air is expelled through it, but
it is the mouth that enables us to articulate, i.e. form the sound into words.
Articulation involves complex subtle movements of tongue, lips, cheeks and soft
palate. Speech is an essential part of being human. The science fiction alien
with a mouth around his belly button, would have to communicate with snorts and
honks, or sign language as he tried to talk through his nose. God is more clever
than the rationalists think. Being able to control expelled air with the mouth
also enables us to play wind musical instruments. Flutes played with the mouth
are executed much more skilfully than the nose flute found in some countries.
Using pressure differences in the airways also enables us to suck and blow
through straws. Why then do things go wrong with the system, sometimes with
fatal consequences? All the functions that involve the movements of air, food
and liquids are under the control of the brain and a complex set of reflexes
normally ensures that the airway is closed when you swallow. The mouth and
larynx are designed so that when you swallow, the larynx is pulled up so that it
is out of the way of what is being swallowed and a flap called the epiglottis is
pulled down over the larynx, like a lid, closing it off. If the reflexes that
control these movements don’t get it right, and something does go down the wrong
way, another backup system, the cough reflex, takes care of it.

Therefore, it is only when several systems fail that people die from choking or
aspiration pneumonia. Apart from the very occasional accident, usually caused by
people trying to talk and eat at once, the reflexes only seriously fail because
of illness or disability – a situation which would never have occurred in the
original perfect world before man sinned and rationalists tried  to talk through
their nose.

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AMERICANS FLOCK TO  KEN HAM'S HI-TECH CREATION MUSEUM where man and dinosaurs
frolic happily together reports UK newspaper 19 August 2007 which wrote: “But
wait at least one second before dismissing Ham as a crackpot. For starters, his
is about the slickest museum you are ever likely to visit. It has an interactive
cinema that tells the creation story according to Genesis, with wind gusts in
the auditorium, vibrating seats and squirts of water, as well as a
state-of-the-art planetarium. Its animatronics are worthy of a world-class theme
park. In fact, the principle designer also helped build exhibits for Universal
Studios in Florida.

Something else impressive: the construction of the museum was funded entirely by
private donations; it doesn't carry one dollar of debt. In other words, in a
country where the evolution-versus-creation debate is alive and raging, there
are plenty of Americans ready to embrace Ham and support his museum. A recent
Gallup poll in this country showed nearly 50 per cent of people accepting the
notion that, "God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one
time within the last 10,000 years or so."

Ham says that the target for the museum was 250,000 visitors by the end of its
first year. That was conservative. They are now on track to clock 150,000 people
by the end of August, just three months after opening. On a recent Tuesday, a
long queue had formed at its front entrance one hour before the posted opening
time of 10am. Parents with children were there, coach trips and excited church
groups. And judging by the variety of licence plates in the car park, they were
driving here from all across the country. “

ED.COM. The key feature in this report is a statement by University of Wisconsin
Professor Ronald Numbers, that "The creationists have been very successful in
persuading conservative Christians to abandon their non-literal interpretation
of the Bible." This is an open admission that acceptance of evolution or the
inability to refute it, has been the main reason why US church goers originally
abandoned a literal reading of their bibles. How sad that many Conservative
Bible colleges still won't touch this subject or have speakers from Creation
Research, as they still labor under the convenient excuse - Genesis is not
crucial to the Gospel.

as they still labor under the convenient excuse - Genesis is not
crucial to the Gospel.

Such a misguided, naive statement. Genesis is the very basics that the need for Salvation has been based on. To disbelieve a literal Genesis is to disbelieve Jesus in all of His teachings.

[Soldier4Christ]

'WE HAVE BROKEN SPEED OF LIGHT' claims a pair of German physicists - an
achievement that would undermine our entire understanding of space and time, as
Einstein's special theory of relativity claims it would require an infinite
amount of energy to propel an object at more than 186,000 miles per second.
However, Dr Gunter Nimtz and Dr Alfons Stahlhofen, of the University of Koblenz,
say they may have breached a key tenet of that theory while investigating a
phenomenon called quantum tunnelling. The pair say they have conducted an
experiment in which microwave photons - energetic packets of light - travelled
"instantaneously" between a pair of prisms that had been moved up to 3ft apart.
Being able to travel faster than the speed of light would lead to bizarre
consequences such as an astronaut moving faster than light would theoretically
arrive at a destination before leaving.

Dr Nimtz told New Scientist magazine: "For the time being, this is the only
violation of special relativity that I know of."

ED.COM. It also means that if you can alter the speed of light then all
calculations of the age of the universe based on belief in a fixed value for
light are suspect.

This is an excellent discovery that answers the questions of so many that have been deceived by the "old age" of the universe by secular scientists.

[Soldier4Christ]

OLDEST BONY FISH FOSSILS FOUND, according to a report in Nature, vol. 448,
p583, 2 Aug 2007. Palaeontologists have found fossilised fish jaw bones in the
late Silurian rocks in Sweden and Germany, believed to be 416-423 million years
old. They have been identified as “Andreolepis hedei” and “Lophosteus superbus,”
which have previously only been known from bone fragments. The jawbones are
distinctive of bony fish but the teeth are not the same as living bony fish. The
researchers concluded: “The bones are a characteristic osteichthyan maxillary
and dentary, but the organization of the tooth-like denticles they bear differs
from the large, conical teeth of crown-group osteichthyans, indicating that they
can be assigned to the stem group. Andreolepis and Lophosteus are thus not only
the oldest but also the most phylogenetically basal securely identified
osteichthyans known so far.”

ED. COM. Now that's a mouthful for sure, so “Phylogenetically basal” means that
the fossils are put at the bottom of an evolutionary tree for fish. They are
assumed to be ancestors of modern bony fish. However, all these fossils indicate
is that they were different to living bony fish and have since died out. Since
extinction is the norm at present and nothing is evolving to replace lost
creatures, the finding of one more group of extinct fish does not help the
theory of evolution. Since creation, the world has degenerated because of man’s
sin and God’s judgement and many living things have died out, including these
bony fish.

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RATS AND JELLYFISH COMBINE TO JOIN BOMB SQUAD, as described in an article in
New Scientist, 12 May 2007. Scientists at Temple University, Philadelphia are
developing an explosive detector using smell receptor proteins found in rats.
Smell receptor proteins work by sending electrical signals when certain
chemicals attach to them. In animals the electrical signals go to the brain and
are interpreted as different smells. Yeasts also use chemical receptor proteins
to generate electrical signals even though they don’t have a brain. Scientists
have taken receptor genes from rats and inserted them into the yeast so they
would generate the electrical signal when they were exposed to TNT, a common
component of explosive devices. They also inserted a gene from a jellyfish,
which produces a green fluorescent glow into the yeast when the electrical
signal is generated. Therefore, when the yeast is exposed to the right chemical
signal it glows a fluoro green colour which can be easily seen or detected by an
electronic colour sensor. The scientists are hoping to embed the chemical
sensitive yeast into a semisolid film to make it easy to use in explosive
detection. They are also hoping to apply the same genetic engineering techniques
to make detectors for other types of chemicals.

ED. COM. When human scientists combine genes from different species to make a
biological functioning system it is called “genetic engineering” and everyone
admits that it took knowledge and creative design to make the system work.
Therefore, it is inconsistent to claim that functioning systems of genes within
rats, jellyfish and yeasts put themselves together without any plan, purpose or
creativity. All such genetic manipulations remind us that it takes plan, purpose
and clever manipulation to add a new function to a living organism and therefore
genetic engineering is powerful evidence for creation and against evolution.

[Soldier4Christ]

DOG SIZE GENE FOUND, according to reports in ScienceNOW and BBC News Online
5 Apr 2007. Domestic dogs have the largest variety of body size and shape of any
animal. In a search for genes that determine size, an international team of gene
researchers studied DNA of Portuguese water dogs, a breed of dog that has a
large variation in size within the breed. They found differences in a gene for a
growth factor named IGF-1. They then compared the gene in breeds that are
consistently small such as Chihuahuas and fox terriers, and those that are
large, such as Great Danes and Irish Wolfhounds. All domestic dogs are descended
from wolves, which are large. The researchers believe that a mutation in the
IGF-1 gene resulted in the appearance of small dogs about 10,000 years ago and
human breeding has ensured the “small” version of the gene survived and spread
through the domestic dog population.

ED. COM. In spite of the large variety in body size and shape, all domestic dogs
and wolves are one kind which interbreed with fertile offspring, and show no
evidence of evolving into anything else. It is interesting that human
intervention is needed to maintain the variety in dogs. If it is just left to
“survival of the fittest” these genes are eliminated and species become more
uniform, like present day wolves. This is partly because many of the
characteristics of modern dog breeds are actually degenerate traits that could
not survive without human care. However, it is possible that some of the variety
in domestic animals was built in by God and meant to be maintained by humans as
part of our mandate to rule the other living things on the earth. (See Genesis
1:28)

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NO QUICK TURNS FOR T-REX, according to a report in BBC News Online, 4 June
2007. Scientists at Stanford University have used a computer model to calculate
the weight of a Tyrannosaurus rex and work out how fast it could move. Their
results indicated that it would have weighed between 6 and 8 tons and had a top
speed of 25 – 40 km per hour (15 – 25 mph). They also estimated where the
animal’s centre of gravity would be and how fast it would have been at changing
direction. Such a massive animal would have had to overcome a large amount of
inertia and would have taken one or two seconds to make a quarter turn. This
means it would not have been good at catching small, agile prey. Paul Barrett,
of the Natural History Museum, London, commented: “This is another finding that
undermines the kind of idea of T-rex as a super-predator.”

ED. COM. This is not the first time biomechanists have questioned the ability of
T-rex to run after prey, but this study fits with other evidence, such as the
shallow rooted teeth that T-rex was more likely to be a scavenger than a mighty
hunter. These findings fit with Biblical history that in the beginning all
animals ate plants. T-rex would have had no trouble running down watermelons or
other vegetables. After the world became corrupted because of man’s rebellion
against God, some animals became scavengers or ate eggs and babies. T-rex may
have been one of these.

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HOW BATS FLY described in ScienceNOW and news@nature 10 May 2007 and BBC
News Online 11 May 2007. Researchers at Lund University, Sweden have studied
bats flying through a fine mist in a wind tunnel to find out how they fly. The
research turned up some significant differences from the way birds fly. When
birds fly, their two wings create swirling vortices of air which join up to form
a single loop of air. In bats the vortices associated with each wing stay
separate so that each wing operates separately from the other. Bats and birds
also have very different upstrokes. Birds twist and spread their feathers to
minimize the effort needed to lift their wings through the air. Bats twist and
invert their wings, using the wind against them to create force in a desired
direction, similar to the way sailors use wind by manipulating sails. Bats’
flight is not as aerodynamically efficient as the single vortex formation and
feather separation in birds, but it does enable bats to manoeuvre more
efficiently at slow speeds.

ED. COM. When sailors make use of vortices and air flow to make a boat go in a
desired direction, they utilize both creative design to make the sails, and
creative manipulation to put them to use. Bats can fly and manoeuvre with much
greater control and efficiency than any man-made sailing or flying device, so
what is your excuse for not accepting the evidence for creative design in the
way bats’ wings work, especially when no one doubts the bats brain creatively
manipulates the air to go where it wants?

[Soldier4Christ]

SWIFT WING SECRETS REVEALED, according to reports in ScienceNOW and
news@nature 25 April 2007. Swifts are small, migratory birds that spend most of
their lives in the air. They can eat, mate and sleep whilst flying, changing, or
“morphing” their wing shape according to the speed and agility required. A group
of scientists led by David Lentink, an aerospace engineer turned zoologist, has
studied swift wings, taken from dead birds, in a wind tunnel and measured the
lift and drag on the wings held at different angles and at varying airspeeds.
The researchers found that wings spread straight out worked best for gliding,
but sweeping them back at an angle improved their turning ability. This fits
with observations of live birds when they are gliding or darting about. The
researchers also worked out what speeds that birds could fly to minimise the
energy needed to fly. This was between 8-10 metres per second, the speed at
which the birds glide as they sleep. Anders Hedenström, a theoretical ecologist
at Lund University, Sweden, who participated in the study, commented: “They have
evolved an aerodynamic design for cheap flight.”

ED. COM. All known cases of the origin of “Aerodynamic design” show that it is
not something that evolves by chance random processes. With aircraft you have to
get it right first time or you don’t fly at all. The fact that swifts are so
aerodynamically versatile in a way that no human aircraft can be, is a reminder
that swifts were designed by a much smarter aeronautical engineer than the ones
who are trying to find out how they work.

[Soldier4Christ]

TENNESSEE GIANTS ON DISPLAY from one of the world's richest deposits of
fossilized tapirs, found living today in tropical locations such as Malaysia and
Brazil. Tennessee Department of Transportation road crews discovered the Gray
fossil site in 2000 as they widened and rerouted portions of State Highway 75
near Daniel Boone High School. Other finds at the site included red panda, giant
ground sloth, rhinoceros, bear, elephant, saber-toothed cat and alligator.

The 33,000-square-foot display center, administered by East Tennessee State
University, will include a permanent display, classroom, preparation lab,
collection storage area and offices for research. The center was funded by an $8
million USA Federal Transportation grant, and ETSU worked to raise $2 million in
matching funds. Evolutionists estimate the age of the Gray fossil site at 4.5 to
7 million years.

Dr. Steven Wallace, associate professor in the ETSU told how two rhinos have
been found so far at the Gray site and the second big rhino is another male. It
has a bunch of broken ribs that healed funny. The males have these big lower
tusks and they fight with each other. I suspect the injury is right under his
arm, where he was hit by another rhino. He also has a broken toe. The hoof core
and middle toe bone had actually fused together in one massive blob. He must
have gotten stomped by something. I thought that was interesting. Wallace
anticipates finding more, adding that elephants are also there to be dug up. "I
love the stories that they tell," said Wallace. "When you look at all these
pathologies, it turns it into an individual, not just a boring skeleton."

ED.COM. It is however almost boring to say – but what has been found is more
geological evidence that climates have changed in the past when man had no cars
or factories which can be blamed, and also that creatures have produced their
own kind and many have become extinct and many have gotten smaller, which is
what you would expect as consistent with Genesis being the real history of the
world and not evolution.