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« Reply #900 on: May 30, 2007, 03:07:34 PM »

May 30, 2007

FAMILY SURVIVAL IN A NUCLEAR AGE
by Cornelius R. Stam

There has been a great deal of discussion of late as to whether property owners should build fall-out shelters for their own families. Some have advocated building such shelters and providing them with all the necessities for survival, including even weapons to keep others from intruding or overcrowding the quarters! Others object to this, however, as a savage viewpoint, and feel it would hardly be worth survival to have to turn a deaf ear to the cries of neighbors or friends who might need shelter too.

Soviet Russia, however, is not the only threat to family survival. There are other forces at work, just as deadly but generally ignored. When this writer was a boy, dad read the Bible and we prayed and gave thanks to God at every meal. One result of this has been that today not one member of our large family shares the fears of the world as to the atomic bomb.

America as a whole is not so well off. She is departing from God and the Bible. As a result, a constantly increasing number of its families are being broken up through juvenile delinquency, alcoholism, dope, divorce, etc., and with these a chilling fear of the future.

St. Paul said to the Philippian jailor: "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved, and thy house" (Acts 16:31). This, of course, does not mean that if a man trusts Christ as his Savior, the rest of the family will be automatically saved. The sense is rather: "Believe in Christ and you will be saved, and this goes for your household too -- if they believe they will be saved" (Acts 16:31). As Rom. 14:12 says: "Every one of us shall give account of himself to God," but it is a wonderful fact that nothing is so apt to keep a family together as mutual faith in Christ and a mutual love for the Bible. Let’s be more concerned about this type of family survival. Let’s make God our "fall-out shelter."

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brother Tom here it goes,Ok ready!
no:1 "thank you thank you Jesus Christ for saving me
no:2  "God is my shelter always.
No:3," i am ready to move to that city of pearly gates.yes.yes O yes.
no:4 ,but not least, thank you brother Tom for who you are ,praisegod my Father, in my time of need he is always there one way or aother.thank you for being there bro Tom..love in Jesus Def
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« Reply #901 on: May 31, 2007, 03:29:37 PM »

brother Tom here it goes,Ok ready!
no:1 "thank you thank you Jesus Christ for saving me
no:2  "God is my shelter always.
No:3," i am ready to move to that city of pearly gates.yes.yes O yes.
no:4 ,but not least, thank you brother Tom for who you are ,praisegod my Father, in my time of need he is always there one way or aother.thank you for being there bro Tom..love in Jesus Def

Hello Def,

Sister, we share the same feelings. It's nice to know that GOD can use all of us to strengthen and encourage each other in CHRIST. SO, fellowship is another Gift that GOD gives us. The easiest way to remember is to know that GOD gives us all good things.

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« Reply #902 on: May 31, 2007, 03:44:17 PM »

May 31, 2007

THE BABY JESUS AND THE LORD OF GLORY
by Cornelius R. Stam

All about us, at this time of the year, the "baby Jesus" is the subject of discussion and attention. Indeed, all year long the Babe in its mother’s arms and the dying Sufferer on the cross are kept constantly before the masses, while our Lord’s resurrection, ascension and present glory in heaven are given but scant attention. This is because so few have taken note of the great message of the Apostle Paul about the glorified Lord in heaven. In II Cor. 5:16, the Apostle wrote:

"...yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we Him no more."

It is sad that so many still know only "Christ after the flesh." They love to discuss the "gospel stories" about the "Man of Galilee," but find themselves strangers in the great Epistles of St. Paul.

Paul was the apostle for this present "dispensation of the grace of God." It is he who presents Christ in His present glory as the great Dispenser of redeeming grace, through the merits He won at Calvary. In Eph. 1:15-23 we have recorded for us the Apostle’s prayer that we might be given "the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Christ" that we might come to experience...

"What is the exceeding greatness of [God’s] power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of His mighty power,

"Which He wrought in Christ when He raised Him from the dead, and set Him at His own right hand in the heavenly places.

"Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world [age], but also in that which is to come" (Eph. 1:19-21).

Let us thank God that the baby Jesus died for our sins and became the risen, living Savior at God’s right hand, abundantly "able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by Him" (Heb. 7:25).

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« Reply #903 on: May 31, 2007, 03:53:02 PM »

Hello Def,

Sister, we share the same feelings. It's nice to know that GOD can use all of us to strengthen and encourage each other in CHRIST. SO, fellowship is another Gift that GOD gives us. The easiest way to remember is to know that GOD gives us all good things.

Love In Christ,
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bro Tom,, Eph ,4:32 that is so hard for me, i half to `love them in Jesus ,i put them in Jesus" what i do i picture  Jesus instead of them,at there place, and then i love them  ,that is the only way i can do it or i am not going were you are going but it will not stop me from loving God in hell even in hell i would love Him it is to late 'you see, I love him.
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« Reply #904 on: May 31, 2007, 04:15:09 PM »

bro Tom,, Eph ,4:32 that is so hard for me, i half to `love them in Jesus ,i put them in Jesus" what i do i picture  Jesus instead of them,at there place, and then i love them  ,that is the only way i can do it or i am not going were you are going but it will not stop me from loving God in hell even in hell i would love Him it is to late 'you see, I love him.

Hello Def,

Sister, love and forgiveness is hard for all of us. We are human beings, so many things aren't natural and easy for us to do. When we think about these things, we should think about JESUS CHRIST dying on the CROSS for us in our place. After all, we were all lost at one point in our lives and we defied the ONE who loved us enough to die for us. JESUS CHRIST fulfilled the law on the CROSS because men can't. We can try, and we can also do better as JESUS fills us. It's a good thing that we depend on HIS Righteousness and not our own.

Some might look in Matthew and say that JESUS made it much easier to reach HIS Standards, but we will never reach HIS Standards in this life. Our goodness and righteousness is HIM in us.

Matthew 22:36-40  NASB  "Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?" And He said to him, " 'YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.' "This is the great and foremost commandment. "The second is like it, 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.' "On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets."

JESUS CHRIST paid the bill for us, and that's the only WAY that our bill could ever be paid. This is why the Scriptures tell us that JESUS CHRIST is the only WAY, and HE IS!

Thanks be unto GOD for HIS unspeakable GIFT!, JESUS CHRIST, our Lord and Saviour forever!

 
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« Reply #905 on: May 31, 2007, 04:21:48 PM »

May 31, 2007

THE BABY JESUS AND THE LORD OF GLORY
by Cornelius R. Stam

All about us, at this time of the year, the "baby Jesus" is the subject of discussion and attention. Indeed, all year long the Babe in its mother’s arms and the dying Sufferer on the cross are kept constantly before the masses, while our Lord’s resurrection, ascension and present glory in heaven are given but scant attention. This is because so few have taken note of the great message of the Apostle Paul about the glorified Lord in heaven. In II Cor. 5:16, the Apostle wrote:

"...yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we Him no more."

It is sad that so many still know only "Christ after the flesh." They love to discuss the "gospel stories" about the "Man of Galilee," but find themselves strangers in the great Epistles of St. Paul.

Paul was the apostle for this present "dispensation of the grace of God." It is he who presents Christ in His present glory as the great Dispenser of redeeming grace, through the merits He won at Calvary. In Eph. 1:15-23 we have recorded for us the Apostle’s prayer that we might be given "the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Christ" that we might come to experience...

"What is the exceeding greatness of [God’s] power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of His mighty power,

"Which He wrought in Christ when He raised Him from the dead, and set Him at His own right hand in the heavenly places.

"Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world [age], but also in that which is to come" (Eph. 1:19-21).

Let us thank God that the baby Jesus died for our sins and became the risen, living Savior at God’s right hand, abundantly "able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by Him" (Heb. 7:25).

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the devil is still at work today like  he was in the garden he is using the human senses, going by what feel good instead of what feel  right,  the crib and the maman feels good, but the cross and death of the son of God  by orders of the Father God for lost sinners is repulsing and unjust of a father they say .so they keep lying by keeping Him in a crib  and they make there own rules and they keep there power of man made rules like Satan there master it is all about I""I""I,,Satan I would like to remind you that you have lost and there is a place for you here in bottomless  pit created for you by the one that you pierced before age of time..thank you Tom you stir meup and that is very good Love in Jesus.Def..it was illigal to have a bible  where i come from.so much for Paul..
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« Reply #906 on: June 02, 2007, 10:56:35 AM »

June 1, 2007

FELLOWSHIP WITH GOD
by Cornelius R. Stam

Man, by nature, is afraid of God. When Adam first sinned, he should have gone immediately to God to beg for mercy and forgiveness. Instead he did just what millions are doing today: he ran and hid from God so that God had to come and look for Him, as it were, calling: "Adam... where art thou?" (Gen. 3:9).

Many people who consider themselves as good, morally, as those about them, or even better, nevertheless feel utterly ill-at-ease in a place of worship, where believers pray and praise God together. This is because in their heart of hearts they know that they have "sinned and come short of the glory of God" (Rom. 3:23).

Such, however, may come to know, love and enjoy God through faith in Christ. He was Himself God manifested in the flesh, come to earth in love to pay for our sins on Calvary’s cross, so that we might have "redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins according to the riches of His grace" (Eph. 1:7).

Concerning those who respond in grateful faith and trust in the crucified, risen, glorified Lord for salvation, the Apostle Paul says:

"Therefore, being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ; by whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God" (Rom. 5:2).

Peace with God, and the fellowship which naturally results from this is the most precious treasure the human heart can contain. Yet our fellowship with Him here on earth is but the beginning. Read carefully Ephesians 5:25-27 and see how He took upon Him human form, and died, that He might have us for Himself forever:

"...Christ... loved the Church, and gave Himself for it... that He might present it to Himself a glorious Church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish."

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« Reply #907 on: June 02, 2007, 10:58:14 AM »

June 2, 2007

Enemies of the Cross
by Paul M. Sadler, President

Scripture Reading:

"For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the Cross of Christ: Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things."
-- Philippians 3:18, 19

During the Apostle Paul's visits to Europe he had frequently warned the Philippians about those who were nothing more than deceivers. It is apparent that the problem in the assembly had greatly intensified for Paul writes, "I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping." These men are labeled by the apostle as "the enemies of the Cross of Christ." They may have appeared outwardly religious but in reality they were ungodly, self-seeking, arrogant, sensual men who were destitute of faith.

There are three indictments that are handed down against these workers of iniquity: First, in the order of enumeration is the statement, "whose end is destruction." Surely this cannot be said of the saved. On the other hand the unsaved will experience everlasting destruction as foretold in II Thessalonians 1:7-9. Secondly, notice the object of their worship. Were they worshipping the true and living God? No! their god was their belly -- sensuality, which produced the insatiable desire to satisfy the appetites of the flesh. Thirdly, we are told they set their affections solely on worldly things such as: philosophy, intellectualism, power, popularity, fortune, etc.

Little wonder Paul calls them enemies of the Cross, "they had a form of godliness, but denied the power thereof." These emissaries of Satan had no desire to understand the preaching of the Cross, whereby they could be justified from all things. Things haven't changed very much, today these imposters brazenly substitute the gospel message with the doctrine of positive thinking, which has led many to a false sense of security in thinking that they are right with God. Sad to say, that even some believers have fallen under the spell of this insidious teaching. Sir Walter Scott said of those who are given to deception:

"Oh, what a tangled web we weave,
when first we practice to deceive."

Thankfully, even though the gospel is sometimes hindered, it continues to be the "power of God unto salvation." Beware of the enemies of the Cross, they are among us even at this hour.

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« Reply #908 on: June 02, 2007, 04:09:42 PM »

June 1, 2007

FELLOWSHIP WITH GOD
by Cornelius R. Stam

Man, by nature, is afraid of God. When Adam first sinned, he should have gone immediately to God to beg for mercy and forgiveness. Instead he did just what millions are doing today: he ran and hid from God so that God had to come and look for Him, as it were, calling: "Adam... where art thou?" (Gen. 3:9).

Many people who consider themselves as good, morally, as those about them, or even better, nevertheless feel utterly ill-at-ease in a place of worship, where believers pray and praise God together. This is because in their heart of hearts they know that they have "sinned and come short of the glory of God" (Rom. 3:23).

Such, however, may come to know, love and enjoy God through faith in Christ. He was Himself God manifested in the flesh, come to earth in love to pay for our sins on Calvary’s cross, so that we might have "redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins according to the riches of His grace" (Eph. 1:7).

Concerning those who respond in grateful faith and trust in the crucified, risen, glorified Lord for salvation, the Apostle Paul says:

"Therefore, being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ; by whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God" (Rom. 5:2).

Peace with God, and the fellowship which naturally results from this is the most precious treasure the human heart can contain. Yet our fellowship with Him here on earth is but the beginning. Read carefully Ephesians 5:25-27 and see how He took upon Him human form, and died, that He might have us for Himself forever:

"...Christ... loved the Church, and gave Himself for it... that He might present it to Himself a glorious Church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish."

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He wash me with His word(eph,5:26) so I could be His bride( the Church is Christ bride )so he gave me  a white dress. Wink...in general they say the blood ..but God say" whosoever believeth"(Jn3:16)all we have to do us is believe in Jesus Christ...that is the will of God that we believe in Him(God) and believe in the one that He sent(Jesus) the death and blood was the atonement the sacrifice between God the Son and God the  Father .(FACE TO FACE)love in Jesus.Def
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« Reply #909 on: June 02, 2007, 04:45:52 PM »

June 2, 2007

Enemies of the Cross
by Paul M. Sadler, President

Scripture Reading:

"For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the Cross of Christ: Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things."
-- Philippians 3:18, 19

During the Apostle Paul's visits to Europe he had frequently warned the Philippians about those who were nothing more than deceivers. It is apparent that the problem in the assembly had greatly intensified for Paul writes, "I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping." These men are labeled by the apostle as "the enemies of the Cross of Christ." They may have appeared outwardly religious but in reality they were ungodly, self-seeking, arrogant, sensual men who were destitute of faith.

There are three indictments that are handed down against these workers of iniquity: First, in the order of enumeration is the statement, "whose end is destruction." Surely this cannot be said of the saved. On the other hand the unsaved will experience everlasting destruction as foretold in II Thessalonians 1:7-9. Secondly, notice the object of their worship. Were they worshipping the true and living God? No! their god was their belly -- sensuality, which produced the insatiable desire to satisfy the appetites of the flesh. Thirdly, we are told they set their affections solely on worldly things such as: philosophy, intellectualism, power, popularity, fortune, etc.

Little wonder Paul calls them enemies of the Cross, "they had a form of godliness, but denied the power thereof." These emissaries of Satan had no desire to understand the preaching of the Cross, whereby they could be justified from all things. Things haven't changed very much, today these imposters brazenly substitute the gospel message with the doctrine of positive thinking, which has led many to a false sense of security in thinking that they are right with God. Sad to say, that even some believers have fallen under the spell of this insidious teaching. Sir Walter Scott said of those who are given to deception:

"Oh, what a tangled web we weave,
when first we practice to deceive."

Thankfully, even though the gospel is sometimes hindered, it continues to be the "power of God unto salvation." Beware of the enemies of the Cross, they are among us even at this hour.

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I am thankful that we have a lots of enemies of the cross because the one that they crucified on that cross is coming soon "soldiers of the cross march on our king is coming with a white horse for each and every one of us i will trade my chair for a magnifico white stallion glory my King is coming ..look up look up ..come Lord Jesus come..
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« Reply #910 on: June 02, 2007, 07:50:57 PM »

I am thankful that we have a lots of enemies of the cross because the one that they crucified on that cross is coming soon "soldiers of the cross march on our king is coming with a white horse for each and every one of us i will trade my chair for a magnifico white stallion glory my King is coming ..look up look up ..come Lord Jesus come..

Amen Sister Def!

Every knee will bow to the KING OF KINGS - all will be brought under HIS subjection!

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« Reply #911 on: June 03, 2007, 08:10:34 AM »

Amen Sister Def!

Every knee will bow to the KING OF KINGS - all will be brought under HIS subjection!

Love In Christ,
Tom


 
Those verse alone are dangerous for those who did not read the bible completely that is where the devil come in and put dought  and say there is contradiction.Christ was sent by God  the Father ,yes he is the light yes he is the word yes he is God but he is under order and that is where for those who are try to understand let go, they are separating the flow of the word and now with new books that they call bible hog wash..Tom i don't say that for you i hope ,but lets get this thing straight "one God in three person with distinct attributes God the Father everlasting out of the black(nothing)God the son God from God.. God the Holy Ghost God  from God...who put in place out of noting the waters and then came forth His Word Christ ,the (Sound) of Word created the light which came forth the the Son Jesus and the power(sound) that put it in place was the Holy Spirit who hoovered over the water the three were at work since the beginning of time, but it all came under first one God the Father who know all thing Him and Him alone.as Paul said 1 Corinthians,15:24-28...."24:Then COMETH the end,when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God,eventhe father;when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.25:for he must reign,till he hath put all enemies under his feet.26:The last enemy THAT shall be destroyed IS death.27: for he hath put all things under his feet. but when he saith all things are put under HIM, it IS manifest that he is excepted,which did put all things under him.28: And when all things shall be subdued unto him,THEN SHALL the SON ALSO `HIMSELF BE` SUBJECT` UNTO HIM,THAT `GOD  MAY BE ALL IN ALL`...and that Tom to me is the God `S truth and noting will move me from it.amen.the verse are taken from the KJ bible except for a few markers at the and so  to take your attention.just the markers note the words .One for all-all for one..love in Jesus Def I am going fishing `coming`:) What a God we serve I am  in awe there is no word to express my love..
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Those verse alone are dangerous for those who did not read the bible completely that is where the devil come in and put dought  and say there is contradiction.Christ was sent by God  the Father ,yes he is the light yes he is the word yes he is God but he is under order and that is where for those who are try to understand let go, they are separating the flow of the word and now with new books that they call bible hog wash..Tom i don't say that for you i hope ,but lets get this thing straight "one God in three person with distinct attributes God the Father everlasting out of the black(nothing)God the son God from God.. God the Holy Ghost God  from God...who put in place out of noting the waters and then came forth His Word Christ ,the (Sound) of Word created the light which came forth the the Son Jesus and the power(sound) that put it in place was the Holy Spirit who hoovered over the water the three were at work since the beginning of time, but it all came under first one God the Father who know all thing Him and Him alone.as Paul said 1 Corinthians,15:24-28...."24:Then COMETH the end,when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God,eventhe father;when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.25:for he must reign,till he hath put all enemies under his feet.26:The last enemy THAT shall be destroyed IS death.27: for he hath put all things under his feet. but when he saith all things are put under HIM, it IS manifest that he is excepted,which did put all things under him.28: And when all things shall be subdued unto him,THEN SHALL the SON ALSO `HIMSELF BE` SUBJECT` UNTO HIM,THAT `GOD  MAY BE ALL IN ALL`...and that Tom to me is the God `S truth and noting will move me from it.amen.the verse are taken from the KJ bible except for a few markers at the and so  to take your attention.just the markers note the words .One for all-all for one..love in Jesus Def I am going fishing `coming`:) What a God we serve I am  in awe there is no word to express my love..
good moring Tom every one have a happy day God is love, in Jesus all your needs be met today love in jesus.Def
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« Reply #913 on: June 03, 2007, 05:28:06 PM »

Those verse alone are dangerous for those who did not read the bible completely that is where the devil come in and put dought  and say there is contradiction.Christ was sent by God  the Father ,yes he is the light yes he is the word yes he is God but he is under order and that is where for those who are try to understand let go, they are separating the flow of the word and now with new books that they call bible hog wash..Tom i don't say that for you i hope ,but lets get this thing straight "one God in three person with distinct attributes God the Father everlasting out of the black(nothing)God the son God from God.. God the Holy Ghost God  from God...who put in place out of noting the waters and then came forth His Word Christ ,the (Sound) of Word created the light which came forth the the Son Jesus and the power(sound) that put it in place was the Holy Spirit who hoovered over the water the three were at work since the beginning of time, but it all came under first one God the Father who know all thing Him and Him alone.as Paul said 1 Corinthians,15:24-28...."24:Then COMETH the end,when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God,eventhe father;when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.25:for he must reign,till he hath put all enemies under his feet.26:The last enemy THAT shall be destroyed IS death.27: for he hath put all things under his feet. but when he saith all things are put under HIM, it IS manifest that he is excepted,which did put all things under him.28: And when all things shall be subdued unto him,THEN SHALL the SON ALSO `HIMSELF BE` SUBJECT` UNTO HIM,THAT `GOD  MAY BE ALL IN ALL`...and that Tom to me is the God `S truth and noting will move me from it.amen.the verse are taken from the KJ bible except for a few markers at the and so  to take your attention.just the markers note the words .One for all-all for one..love in Jesus Def I am going fishing `coming`:) What a God we serve I am  in awe there is no word to express my love..

Hello Sister Def,

I try very hard to make simple and blunt statements about the absolute and unquestioned TRUTH OF THE ETERNAL HOLY TRINITY. Maybe I need to be more careful and more blunt when I talk about the ETERNAL HOLY TRINITY, but I thought that I had been pretty clear and blunt. Maybe we are saying the same thing in different ways. I don't know, but here's a few examples of what the King James Version has to say about the ETERNAL HOLY TRINITY.

John 10:28 KJV  And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
John 10:29 KJV  My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
John 10:30 KJV  I and my Father are one.

John 17:21 KJV  That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
John 17:22 KJV  And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:

1 John 5:4 KJV  For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
1 John 5:5 KJV  Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?
1 John 5:6 KJV  This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
1 John 5:7 KJV  For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

There are a host of other portions of Scripture that I could quote that are all quite specific about the ETERNAL HOLY TRINITY, and all THREE specifically being involved in portions of CREATION. If I said anything that would make anyone think that I doubt the truth of the ETERNAL HOLY TRINITY, I don't know what I said or when that would make anyone think I had any doubt.

I have zero doubt, so I'll try to state it one more time and clear up any misunderstandings:

1 - GOD THE FATHER IS ALMIGHTY GOD AND THE CREATOR.

2 - GOD THE SON (JESUS CHRIST) IS ALMIGHTY GOD AND THE CREATOR.

3 - GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT IS ALMIGHTY GOD AND THE CREATOR.

4 - The THREE are distinct and individual entities of the HOLY GODHEAD, and THE THREE ARE ONE. NONE were CREATED because they are the CREATOR. NONE have a beginning or an ending.

5 - The THREE are in fact ONE ALMIGHTY GOD and they always have been for ETERNITY PAST.

6 - The Holy Bible always talks about the ONE TRUE GOD in plural terms, and this explains why.


Genesis 1:26 KJV  And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

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« Reply #914 on: June 03, 2007, 05:55:45 PM »

Hello Sister Def,

I try very hard to make simple and blunt statements about the absolute and unquestioned TRUTH OF THE ETERNAL HOLY TRINITY. Maybe I need to be more careful and more blunt when I talk about the ETERNAL HOLY TRINITY, but I thought that I had been pretty clear and blunt. Maybe we are saying the same thing in different ways. I don't know, but here's a few examples of what the King James Version has to say about the ETERNAL HOLY TRINITY.

John 10:28 KJV  And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
John 10:29 KJV  My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
John 10:30 KJV  I and my Father are one.

John 17:21 KJV  That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
John 17:22 KJV  And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:

1 John 5:4 KJV  For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
1 John 5:5 KJV  Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?
1 John 5:6 KJV  This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
1 John 5:7 KJV  For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

There are a host of other portions of Scripture that I could quote that are all quite specific about the ETERNAL HOLY TRINITY, and all THREE specifically being involved in portions of CREATION. If I said anything that would make anyone think that I doubt the truth of the ETERNAL HOLY TRINITY, I don't know what I said or when that would make anyone think I had any doubt.

I have zero doubt, so I'll try to state it one more time and clear up any misunderstandings:

1 - GOD THE FATHER IS ALMIGHTY GOD AND THE CREATOR.

2 - GOD THE SON (JESUS CHRIST) IS ALMIGHTY GOD AND THE CREATOR.

3 - GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT IS ALMIGHTY GOD AND THE CREATOR.

4 - The THREE are distinct and individual entities of the HOLY GODHEAD, and THE THREE ARE ONE. NONE were CREATED because they are the CREATOR. NONE have a beginning or an ending.

5 - The THREE are in fact ONE ALMIGHTY GOD and they always have been for ETERNITY PAST.

6 - The Holy Bible always talks about the ONE TRUE GOD in plural terms, and this explains why.


Genesis 1:26 KJV  And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.


we are just exchanging here right ..ok here is hat i think before lucifer said I_I_I will be as the most hight the trinity way one and then somehow after the new earth then they reorange into three in one  and then when that part of the plan is over 1 Cor15:24-28 they become one again the new Jerusalem..please answer now!!!!!!i am just exchanging with you Tom I willdream about this tonight.but i will wait for your answ.." a fight between Lucifer and God that is what it is from the beggining.
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