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« Reply #30 on: December 15, 2004, 07:25:25 AM »

We have the HOLY SPIRIT of TRUTH !HE reveals all TRUTH too us .That is the only way anyone would believe me .other wise no one would believe my testamony ..HE reveals to our spirit which hears HIM perfectly .BECAUSE we are SPIRIT 1st above all else .This is who OUR LORD DIED for .THIS IS WHO LIVES FOREVER .THIS IS WHO GOES TO THE LORD AFTER DEATH .Which is us sheding this old flesh .HE has a new body waiting for us .This flesh is nothing but a tool .YOUN ARE MUCH MORE THAN THIS WEAK STUFF
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« Reply #31 on: December 15, 2004, 07:53:07 AM »

As for that unclean spirit it did acknowledge Christ as the Holy One of God. However, I dont think it would ever confess that Jesus was from God in flesh.

It already has, Jesus was in the flesh when the unclean spirit spoke those words.

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I do not understand. So are you saying that this unclean spirit was from God???

1 John 4:1-3
Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God:

Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh IS FROM GOD, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus IS NOT FROM GOD.

1 Cor 12:3
Therefore I tell you that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, "Jesus be cursed," and no one can say, "Jesus is Lord," except by the Holy Spirit.




No! I am saying that your test is not what you think it is. I have demonstrated that an unclean spirit can pass your test which is not what the Scripture teaches.

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My test? I was refering to the tests from scripture. Did I need to point that out? (rhetorical question) I think that was obvious.

If you notice this has little to do with the original topic which was: man's knowledge alone cannot find the truths of God; only through the Holy Spirit.

Why are you so focused in proving yourself right and me wrong? I still cannot find what you are rebuking as I have already made clear all your assumptions. Do you think this message was against and thus, you are fiercely trying to defend yourself? I assure you I know very little about you or your stances on things; but that is irrelevant.

Tell me plainly what you think is wrong.


Do not read the name of the writer first and make preconceived notions on how to reply BEFORE you actually read the message. I can tell this happens. Some people make up their minds to agree or disagree, belive or disbelive BEFORE they even read the message because they have seen who has written it. This is when you seek to judge man instead of seeking to find truth.





What can I say? I guess I just dont find your human knowledge very convincing. You think maybe its devoid of the Holy Spirit? How can we find out?
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« Reply #32 on: December 15, 2004, 08:19:37 AM »

The mark of the Holy Spirit's guidance is a changed life and a changed heart, producing a bride that is nearing the spotless perfection that Jesus wants from us. If your study of the word doesnt change you, then you need to spend more time in the prescence of Christ, quietly waiting for that small voice to speak to you, when all other voices have got tired of clamouring for your attention.

Absorbing the Word is always profitable I believe, whether we are just reading it casually on the train or if we are doing an in depth lengthy study. The Holy Spirit can prompt us to remember things we have read, perhaps not understanding them, then shed light on them later.

The point I believe we fall down on, is when we try to apply the Word in our lives using our own strength and wisdom. Thats when the trouble arises. Simply reading the Word is not enough, we need to apply the word in the power of the Holy Spirit. The fruit that is produced in our lives displays whether we are listening to the Holy Spirit or not.

I pray that we may all grow to know Christ and His will for us more deeply, and really allow Him to change us, and the world around us.
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« Reply #33 on: December 15, 2004, 08:46:34 AM »

When  born again ,we are given a new spirit perfect in the LORD .  
But without teaching of TRUTH .we must yeild to the HOLY SPIRIT .if we do not .we try to live the best we can ?and the flesh causes us great problems .we are at war ?fighting 2 battles at once .our own flesh and evil spirits .we try hard but can not seem to over come .because the real us or inner man is not in control .the flesh will not allow the HOLY GHOST to have much say so .we control the HOLY SPIRIT in our lifes . HE does very little unless we give HIM ,HIS WAY .HE NEVER TAKES CONTROL .But if we give the inner man control .He will allow the HOLY SPIRIT listen to the HOLY SPIRIT and do all HE asks .HE wants to serve GOD .even before bORN AGAIN .But in most lifes the inner man has little say so .because we are taught ,our flesh is us .it is but a tool ,for us to use .a coat ,you might say .The real yiou is made in the image of GOD .a spirit . fasting will give him power overv the flesh .where you can be perfect in the LORD .and hear the LORD clearly
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« Reply #34 on: December 15, 2004, 01:23:20 PM »

When  born again ,we are given a new spirit perfect in the LORD .  
But without teaching of TRUTH .we must yeild to the HOLY SPIRIT .if we do not .we try to live the best we can ?and the flesh causes us great problems .we are at war ?fighting 2 battles at once .our own flesh and evil spirits .we try hard but can not seem to over come .because the real us or inner man is not in control .the flesh will not allow the HOLY GHOST to have much say so .we control the HOLY SPIRIT in our lifes . HE does very little unless we give HIM ,HIS WAY .HE NEVER TAKES CONTROL .But if we give the inner man control .He will allow the HOLY SPIRIT listen to the HOLY SPIRIT and do all HE asks .HE wants to serve GOD .even before bORN AGAIN .But in most lifes the inner man has little say so .because we are taught ,our flesh is us .it is but a tool ,for us to use .a coat ,you might say .The real yiou is made in the image of GOD .a spirit . fasting will give him power overv the flesh .where you can be perfect in the LORD .and hear the LORD clearly

Chapter and verse please! Or is this something that the Holy Spirit taught that is not in the Bible.
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« Reply #35 on: December 15, 2004, 02:36:25 PM »

1Th 5:23  And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
ph 3:16  That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
2Co 5:17  Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new
Joh 1:12  But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Joh 1:13  Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but GOD
Heb 5:13  For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
Rev Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. Gal 5:17  For the flesh lusteth against
Gal 5:18  But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law
Gal 5:25  If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
1Jo 2:20  But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.
anointing 1Jo 2:27  But the which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
1Jo 3:2  Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
1Jo 3:3  And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
1Jo 1Jo 3:9  Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
1Jo 3:14  We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death
1Jo 4:4  Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
2Co 5:17  Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
Joh 6:63 KJV  It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
nown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.
1Co 14:32  And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.
HE is talkiing about our spirit here!
1Co 15:44  It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
4:26  But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
Heb 10:16  This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
Heb 7:12  For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
God.
1Co 2:11  For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man
2:10  But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that w1Co 2:12  Now we have received, not the e might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
Luk 12:12  For the Holy Ghost shall teach you in the same hour what ye ought to say.
1Co 2:13  Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual things
Joh 3:6  That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Joh 3:7  Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
Joh 3:7  Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
h 4:24  God is a Spirit:Joh 4:23  But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
 and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
in spirit is our spirit ,who we are .
Joh 10:4  And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.
Joh 16:13  Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
Joh 16:14  He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
Joh Joh 17:16  They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
Joh 17:22  And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
(Joh 15:20)  Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.
Mar 10:15  Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein
12:11  And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Joh 3:8  The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
Joh 3:12  If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
Joh heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
1Co 5:5  To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.













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« Reply #36 on: December 15, 2004, 02:45:48 PM »

1Th 5:23  And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
ph 3:16  That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
2Co 5:17  Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new
Joh 1:12  But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Joh 1:13  Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but GOD
Heb 5:13  For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
Rev Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. Gal 5:17  For the flesh lusteth against
Gal 5:18  But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law
Gal 5:25  If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
1Jo 2:20  But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.
anointing 1Jo 2:27  But the which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
1Jo 3:2  Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
1Jo 3:3  And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
1Jo 1Jo 3:9  Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
1Jo 3:14  We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death
1Jo 4:4  Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
2Co 5:17  Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
Joh 6:63 KJV  It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
nown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.
1Co 14:32  And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.
HE is talkiing about our spirit here!
1Co 15:44  It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
4:26  But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
Heb 10:16  This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
Heb 7:12  For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
God.
1Co 2:11  For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man
2:10  But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that w1Co 2:12  Now we have received, not the e might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
Luk 12:12  For the Holy Ghost shall teach you in the same hour what ye ought to say.
1Co 2:13  Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual things
Joh 3:6  That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Joh 3:7  Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
Joh 3:7  Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
h 4:24  God is a Spirit:Joh 4:23  But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
 and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
in spirit is our spirit ,who we are .
Joh 10:4  And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.
Joh 16:13  Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
Joh 16:14  He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
Joh Joh 17:16  They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
Joh 17:22  And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
(Joh 15:20)  Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.
Mar 10:15  Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein
12:11  And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Joh 3:8  The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
Joh 3:12  If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
Joh heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
1Co 5:5  To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

Which verse teaches this? "we control the HOLY SPIRIT in our lifes."

Which verse teaches we have an inner man before being born again?

"He will allow the HOLY SPIRIT listen to the HOLY SPIRIT and do all HE asks .HE wants to serve GOD .even before bORN AGAIN ."


What verse teaches this?

"fasting will give him power overv the flesh .where you can be perfect in the LORD .and hear the LORD clearly"
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« Reply #37 on: December 15, 2004, 05:37:40 PM »

Which verse teaches this? "we control the HOLY SPIRIT in our lifes
Joh 14:17  Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you
Eph 4:30  And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
o 14:32  And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.
Eph 4:24  And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
Joh 17:14  I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
Joh 17:15  I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
Joh 17:16  They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
Mat 26:41  Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.
Thisd was before being born again ,as you can see ?even before the nEW BIRTh .Our spirit is willing to follow the LORd .
But we MUST be BORN again in order to enter the KINGDOM .Also when born asgain ?the HOLY SPIRIT dwells with in us .
FASTING
at 6:16  Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
Mat 6:17  But thou, when thou fastest, anoint thine head, and wash thy face;
Mat 6:18  That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly.
Mat 9:15  And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber mourn, as long as the bridegroom is with them? but the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken from them, and then shall they fast.
Luk 5:35  But the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken away from them, and then shall they fast in those days
Eph 3:16  That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
You see the things done by the HOLY SPIRIT ,are not taught in the flesh to any degee .These things are revealed by THE HOLY SPIRIT and done by the HOLY SPIRIT .They spiritual in nature .
If you really want to know the things of the HOLY SPIRIT ?you are gonna have to fast ? If you really desire TRUTH in your life .Because the just live by FAITH .YOU can not see FAITH !Your inner man is a spirit .everything he needs is spiritual .You can give him nothing ?Only the HOLY SPIRIT can .What you can do ?is put your flesh aside .Then yiou will understand .other wise you will never know !



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« Reply #38 on: December 15, 2004, 11:15:45 PM »

The mark of the Holy Spirit's guidance is a changed life and a changed heart, producing a bride that is nearing the spotless perfection that Jesus wants from us. If your study of the word doesnt change you, then you need to spend more time in the prescence of Christ, quietly waiting for that small voice to speak to you, when all other voices have got tired of clamouring for your attention.

Absorbing the Word is always profitable I believe, whether we are just reading it casually on the train or if we are doing an in depth lengthy study. The Holy Spirit can prompt us to remember things we have read, perhaps not understanding them, then shed light on them later.

The point I believe we fall down on, is when we try to apply the Word in our lives using our own strength and wisdom. Thats when the trouble arises. Simply reading the Word is not enough, we need to apply the word in the power of the Holy Spirit. The fruit that is produced in our lives displays whether we are listening to the Holy Spirit or not.

I pray that we may all grow to know Christ and His will for us more deeply, and really allow Him to change us, and the world around us.

Thanks bern, you explained it a lot better than me.

Amen Gary.


Pilgrim, am I talking about a human knowledge devoid of the Holy Spirit? You ask how can we know if Human Knowledge is devoid of the Holy Spirit. IT IS. Otherwise people would be able to attain salvation through the blood of Christ on their knowledge alone and not through the work of God.

You ask an inaccurate question. You actually want to know how we can find the difference between relying on our knowledge and relying on the Holy Spirit. I am telling you that the Holy Spirit is paramount in regards to knowledge. My testimony speaks for itself. If you still have doubts then consider this:

You know that the bible tells us to worship God in Spirit and in Truth. How do you do this?
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« Reply #39 on: December 16, 2004, 06:49:53 PM »

Greetings Pilgrim,

I would like to comment on some of the issues raised here.

Which verse teaches this? "we control the HOLY SPIRIT in our lifes."

I think Gary was referring to the fact that we can quench/grieve the Spirit and reduce His activity in our lives.

Which verse teaches we have an inner man before being born again?

Yeah, not so sure on this one mysefl! heh

"He will allow the HOLY SPIRIT listen to the HOLY SPIRIT and do all HE asks .HE wants to serve GOD .even before bORN AGAIN ."


What verse teaches this?


I think Gary refers to the inbuilt desire in all of our hearts to worship the creator. The unregenerate person simply doesn't realise thats what the inner longing is.

"fasting will give him power overv the flesh .where you can be perfect in the LORD .and hear the LORD clearly"

It certainly doesn't do any harm! We are actively told to do it.. because I believe it brings us into a place where we are more focused on God. The scripture, to my knowledge, never says that fasting in itself makes us perfect and able to hear the Lord clearly... but I believe it does bring us to a place that promotes spiritual growth. I have spoken to gary about this issue before, but as I said to him in pm recently, I think we perhaps misunderstand what he means or says because of his unorthodox writing style. So perhaps we need to clarify meaning before being overly critical. I'm not saying anyone is at fault here, just making a few points.
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« Reply #40 on: December 17, 2004, 01:15:22 AM »

Our begining is as NEW creatures ,This is when wwe are born again .This is our start ?
But I want to go before this ,to peter in the garden with OUR LORD
THE LORD TOLD HIM .WATCH and pray .But peter fell asleep .JESUS TOLD HIM ?YOUR SPIRIT IS WILLING .PETER WAS NOT BORN AGAIN HERE .BECAUSE ?JESUS had not died yet ,nor sent the HOLY SPIRIT .whos WORK THIS IS .
THIS SHOWS even though we are full of sin ,our spirit still would serve GOD .but of course the flesh would not .Now the flesh was also sin full ..
BUT this is who our LORD died for .not our body ,As it dies .And HE tells us we recieve a NEW body to go with our new SPIRIT as well as everything else new ,name earth ,heavens ,city ,job ,and much more .because ALL THINGS BECOME NEW .That means everything .We are not of this earth any longer ?
WHAT has happened to us ?And who are we now ?
well we are made like the LORDS NEW CITY ,That hE WENT TO PREPARE FOR US ,To go with our new being .because everything MUST be made new for us .HE went beyond the garden of eden .HE not only restored us ?But made us like HE IS .WHEN we see HIm ?WE WILL BE LIKE HIM .And we are now ?This is very hard too see .and is the true MEAT OF THE WORD .
BECAUSE ,do you know ?OUR WORDS BECOME TRUTH ?It is written in heaven or should I say NEW JERUSALEM as that is OUR CITY FOREVER MORE .HE IS THERE NOW WAITING ON US TO RUN OUR RACE .I"LL tell you another TRUTH ?Do you know why after death qwe can never be in darkness again ?even though the space is dark out there and we will not have any more sun.Because we will be light ,we will shine .everywhere we go .we will light .OF course the greatest light will be OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST .as HE LIGHTS THE WHOLE CITY AND MORE .BUT we will all shine some more than others .AS YOU WELL KNOW HE LIGHTS THE CITY AND WE WILL BE LIKE HIM .
Gal 4:26  But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. THAT is why this vs. is in the bible
NOW I guess ?you know we are spirit ,soul ,and body .
1Th 5:23  And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
SO this shows ,we are 3 parts ,but the main part is spirit or inner man [same thing]
The spirit is our inner man .
Joh 3:6  That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. THIS IS OUR SPIRIT OR INNER MAN
NOW how we control or allow the HOLY SPIRIT to work in our lifes .THIS is the greatest blessing in your life ,if you only understood .HE WILL SHOW OR TEACH YOU ANYTHING .I MEAN ANYTHING .HE WANTS TO DO THIS .IT IS HIS OWN JOB .AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW MORE THAN ANY I HAVE KNOWN AND YOU CAN ,CAUSE I AM NOT SMART TO BEGIN WITH .HE OUR LORD LIKES TO WORK THOUGH THE WEAKEST ..that is me .praise the LORD .
Eph 4:30  And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
john 14:32  And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.
YOU SEE THIS this says spirits ?we have but one of our own to start .but We now have 2 with in us .The other is the HOLY SPIRIT .Which we have FOREVER MORE .
NOW try this ?ask HIM ,out loud to show you something .something you lost or need to know .HE WILL REVEAL THIS TO YOU  .HE WILL SHOW YOU ANYTHING ,that does not come between you and JESUS CHRIST .YOU ARE NOTHING LIKE THE WORLD .YOU ARE SPIRIT 1ST .

NOW to our soul or mind .same thing .
OUR MIND must br renewed .WHY ? because now that we are new creatures ?it MUST be reprogramed to live and walk in the SPIRIT .because most everything in this new walk .must be recieved in FAITH .recieving it from the HOLY SPIRIT .OUR WEAPONS ARE SPIRITUAL .OUR BATTLE is spiritual ..we fight spirits ,the fallen angels .the battle is in our minds .THAT is why our LORD tells us HE will give us a clear mind .satan can not to anything to us .Unless we let him ?asnd many do .of course there will always be people he can use to try and hurt us and cause problems .but all things work for our good .so we can not lose even if it looks like we do .Because we are MORE THAN CONQUERS IN CHRIST JESUS .
the demons shake when you are near .they fear you as if you were JESUS CHRIST .BECAUSE HIS VERY SPIRIT IS IN YOU .EVERY BIT OF THE POWER IS IN YOU .YOUR FAITH CAUSES IT TO WORK ,OF COURSE WE NEED TO BE LED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT .h 4:24  God is a Spirit:Joh 4:23  But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth
THIS IS SPEAKING OF OUR VERY SPIRIT ,who we are !
I can not prove this to you very well ?but if you fast 3 days .
YOU will know more than ever before .I know this may sound funny .how can 3 days change me ?but when born again ?We are changed even more in a blink of an eye .BUT what will happen ?
The 1st day is nothing ,you can work .the next day ,satan will try to decieve you ,he will do lots of dum things to get you too stop .because he knows ,you will walk in the power of GOD .your inner man will take over .This being is who you are .HE will seek the face of GOD and will find it . Your mind will be confused .But stand in faith read ,THE LIVING WORD AND PRAY .TALK WITH THE LORD tell HIM ANY NEED YOU THINK YOU HAVE .HE WILL BE WITH YOU .THE third day .YOUR MIND WILL BE CLEARER than ever .YOU WILL SPEAK WITH YOUR LORD JESUS CHRIST .YOU WILL BE A MORE POWERFUL child of GOD .YOU WILL GIVE YOUR TESTAMONY AND BE A LIVING BLESSING .THEN you will have obeyed the scripture.
 4:24  God is a Spirit:Joh 4:23  But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
YOU will do this ,if you truely want a closer walk with OUR LORD .fIND THE TIME .YOU WILL NEVER BE SORRY .

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lean not to your own understanding ,the just live by faith ,you do not need to be taught of any man ,the HOLY  SPIRIT will teach you everything .We are NEW CREATURES IN CHRIST JESUS .NOT OF THIS WORLD .WE ARE AS OUR LORD .HE WILL RETURN SOON FOR HIS BRIDE .Rev 1:6  And hath made us kings and priests
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« Reply #41 on: December 17, 2004, 03:58:02 AM »

AMEN AMEN AMEN!

Gary, you speak the truth from God.

Most surely we are the light of the world! May we continue to shine so that men can see.

matt5:14
You are the light of the world. A city on a hill cannot be hidden. 15Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. 16In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven.

Jesus said,I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life. John 8:12


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« Reply #42 on: December 21, 2004, 11:12:20 PM »

The Holy Spirit is God.  Cheesy
Acts 5:3-4

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« Reply #43 on: December 21, 2004, 11:33:31 PM »


Well.  Otay.  But whatever He is, He's WONDERFUL!


"And we are witnesses to these things, and so is the Holy Spirit whom God has given to those who obey him."  

(Acts 5:32)


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