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« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2004, 02:58:39 PM »

Yeah!!!! the coffee man is back, and wiser than ever!   Cheesy

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« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2004, 05:32:34 PM »

Well said argument, Allinall. I have to agree with you. It's been a pleasure too. Take care.

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« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2004, 12:48:43 AM »

Do you think God rates sin or are they all the same in his eyes?

I believe that sin, is sin in God's eyes.  He says:

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For God shows no partiality.

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For there is no respect of persons with God.

Romans 2:11 KJV

God doesn't view one man's sin as any worse than any other man's sin.  God doesn't hold one man as any better than any other man.  There is no partiality, or respect with regards to one man over any other.  There is only God's infinite grace.



I think this answers the question. Does God rate sin are they same in His eyes? (take notice that I was in agreement with the previous argument too.) Both are correct, however you may be thinking..."how can it if each one apparently contradicts the other"...the answer is they don't. Its seems from the latter argument (from brother allinall and I think Nana), that you are implying a stance against the previous argument. Likewise from the previous argument (aiden, marv, tim) that the latter argument is implying a stance against your argument. However there is no contradiction between these two.

The previous argument proposed that people will face the consequences of their sins and that different sins will have different consequences. So would that mean there is a degree of righteousness and sinfulness? Yes. Job was a good example. He was a righteous man and he was richly blessed by God. His riches and blessings were consequence of his righteousness. Likewise, there are bad results consequence of sinfulness. Thus there is a rate of sin that can be apparently seen in the present life.

The latter argument proposed that God sees that all sin are the "same." A better way to but this is the following:

Jam 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one [point], he is guilty of all.

"We ALL have sinned and fell short of the glory of God" (romans 'somewhere') but God sees that ALL are worthy to be redeemed through Jesus blood. What James 2:10 means is that if we have broken one law (just one single law) throughout our entire life, then we are guilty as a sinner.

God sees each Man as the same, a sinner. God does not show partialty to anyone- for anyone, absolutely ANYone, can believe in Jesus Christ and have eternal life. However, is one sin the same as another sin because this is true? No, this is the fallacy as I mentioned before. There are different sins with different consequences. There are different severities for different sins. We can witness the severity and consequences of such sin. Likewise, for righteouness, we can see the same thing. We see this take place in our present life.

Again, however, there is nothing too severe that can seperate us from the Love of Jesus Christ.


So, to answer the question: Do you think God rates sin or are they all the same in his eyes?

Sins have always had a rating and, thus, they will yield different results. This is the same for righteousness.

They are not the same in God's eye because God does see the righteousness and sinfulness of Man's life.

However, God could not find any single person sinless. Thus, we are all sinners. God sees that. Because God loves us and wants to redeem us, He allowed that we be cleansed of all sins through FAITH in Jesus. God will see if you have faith or if you dont. This will determine whether you will be clean from your sins.

In this manner, God sees that no matter how much you've sinned, that the blood of Christ will wash it away. It is in this way that God sees that 'righteous' man who has faith in Jesus and a 'sinful' man who has faith in Jesus are the same.
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« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2004, 01:31:02 AM »

I'm pretty new at this reading the Bible thing and Christ, but I'll throw in my 2 cent. Hoping it's not to late for it, but here goes...

I was taught a long time ago when I first got saved, before I had a falling out, that sin is sin no matter what. This example was given to me to help me understand:

There is a fence, and on one side of the fence is sin, and on the other is righteousnous. When you have sex before marriage, you go on the sin side of the fence. When you murder someone in cold blood, you go on the sin side of the fence. Now, I must agree that the murderer would go farther back on the sin side, but they are both on the wrong side of the fence. That's what I was taught. Anyone agree or disagree?

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« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2004, 01:48:58 PM »

I'm kinda like felix on this topic.  I agree with most of what has been said.   Sin is sin, and the smallest of it will separate us from God.   We are all on the wrong side of the fence to put it bluntly.  Christ is on the righteous side of the fence, and when we accept his gift of salvation, HIS righteousness is imputed to us.

About the degree's of sin, I still think God being a perfect just God will be just in his judgment of sin, but then again, to be on the wrong side of the fence to begin with makes all the rest a moot point anyways doesn't it?  

Rev 20:12  And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Rev 20:13  And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

I wont interpret this passage as I read it, but let the reader decide.  

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« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2004, 01:54:44 PM »

One sin - just one - makes you less than perfect. And that makes you unfit for Heaven. The worst sin is the one that each of us is guilty of.  Smiley
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« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2004, 02:00:59 PM »

Romans 1:29-32 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

Envy and murder are listed with gossip.... Undecided
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« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2004, 02:11:23 PM »

I agree SH.  One little sin is as black as night to God.  I promise I wasn't trying to make some sin not so bad   Cheesy  Like I said, being on the wrong side of that fence wont make too much difference in the end.

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« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2004, 02:14:24 PM »

I agree SH.  One little sin is as black as night to God.  I promise I wasn't trying to make some sin not so bad   Cheesy  Like I said, being on the wrong side of that fence wont make too much difference in the end.

Grace and Peace!

LOL! Sorry! I was just throwing out my thoughts on the subject! It's DW's fault!  Lips Sealed No connection to your post! Lips Sealed
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« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2004, 02:21:22 PM »

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Just for the record, we don't gossip about our neighbors....everything we say is the truth!   Grin


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