BANNED! OH HEAVENS TO BETSY!! BANNED!!!

[Reba]

How can any dispy have his head screwed on stright?  

Good morning Guys ! opps and Gals! Play nice we do still have a jail around here    

Mr. Beapster is a very good moderator! Mocking himn is not a good thing.

[Evangelist]

Gentlemen.  I must say that this tirade is less than edifying.  B.L. is a hyper/ultra dispensationalist.  From what I've read here in posts and perused from Hank's site, I'd gather he's a dispensationalist with his head screwed on straight.

 

I take it as a compliment, Allinall, but I will say this....I don't call myself a dispensationalist in the classic connotation. Rather, I use the "division" as a way of better understanding HOW God dealt with mankind, and the progressive means of showing to us our inadequacy.  And, along with Dr. Scofield (as he states emphatically numerous times), I do not consider God to have provided different means (house rules) of salvation over the course of time....throughout all of the "dispensations", there has been only ONE way of salvation, only ONE who could declare us righteous. "Salvation is by grace through faith, and that not of yourselves; not of works, lest any man should boast."   

So, as usual, B.L. disagrees with everyone that doesn't agree with C.R. Stam.  BTW Hank, Tom agrees with some of Stam's stuff, so I don't think it's that cultish.

I don't consider Stam, or any other hyper-dispy to be a cult, although some border on it...like the guy in Colorado that has started a "shadow-gov" movement...and even he can't decide how many dispensations there are. "there could be as few as 3, or as many as 32 or 33, just depends on how you look at it." DOH!

Stam, just as many others, has some good things to say, and some very salient points to make....and just as many others, a tendency to warp some things to try to emphasize a point, or prove a doctrine.

That said, and the only real point I have (no comments from the peanut gallery please  ), do we really need to doubt one another's claim to the salvific grace of our Lord Jesus Christ?

Seems to be the nature of those who think they know it all.  

[Evangelist]

Reba:

How can any dispy have his head screwed on stright?

Very very simple. By faith I acknowledge that when God recreated me (made me a new man), he gave me a perfectly threaded neckstem, so that when I get up in the morning and put my head on, it always screws to just the right place and stops with my nose to the front....dead center, no less!!  

[sincereheart]

*Wipes off the latent testosterone from his shoes*  Man, what is it with this stuff?  Anywho...

Gentlemen.  I must say that this tirade is less than edifying.  B.L. is a hyper/ultra dispensationalist.  From what I've read here in posts and perused from Hank's site, I'd gather he's a dispensationalist with his head screwed on straight.    

So, as usual, B.L. disagrees with everyone that doesn't agree with C.R. Stam.  BTW Hank, Tom agrees with some of Stam's stuff, so I don't think it's that cultish.    And B.L.?  Hank is about as straight-forward theologically as you can get.  I have yet to see anything I'd greatly disagree with in his posts, or his site (granted, I have more to read but have faith I won't have problems with that which I read).  That said, and the only real point I have (no comments from the peanut gallery please  ), do we really need to doubt one another's claim to the salvific grace of our Lord Jesus Christ?

Just a thought...

You're probably wrong because I agree with you!  

The name calling on both ends and the questioning of salvation on both ends isn't edifying to the rest of us ignorant peons out here in the peanut section~ in my ever so humble opinion.

I'm so glad I don't have that over-abundance of testosterone.

[Reba]

   'rasberries'   E


I am off to the far northern part of  California again.... Please keep us before His throne..... Thanks Reba

[nChrist]

Brothers and Sisters,

I think that the biggest thing that bothers me about this is claiming someone isn't saved because of a difference in doctrine. If that were done by everyone, there couldn't possibly be a Christians Unite forum. WHY??? - there are no two of us who have 100% agreement.

I think that it is silly and childish to suggest that someone isn't saved because of some belief that has absolutely nothing to do with Salvation. Those differences could make for some very interesting and educational discussions. In fact, discussions of those differences in adult manners could help to build each other up in Christ. In the very least, some might even come to some understanding that no two of us even has the same definition for many of the tags and labels thrown around. It makes everyone pretty confused, and that is exactly what the devil wants.

So - what do the following have to do with being saved?

 

Un-dispy
Re-dispied
Inside dispy
Outside dispy
Twice removed dispy
Double dispy
Reverse dispy
Over and under dispy
Anti dispy
Pre, Mid, Post, Done, No dispy
Reformed dispy
Old, Young, deceased dispy
   (OR, was that dippy or drippy?)

It could get much more silly than this. Now, does the person or pastor have Jesus as personal Lord and Saviour? Personally, I don't have to agree with everything a person believes to have fellowship. That's a good thing since nobody completely agrees. I can also listen to a good preacher and enjoy the sermon without 100% agreement, mainly because there is no such thing as 100% agreement. Who is nit-picking and trying to decide which "nit" that has absolutely nothing to do with Salvation is worthy of calling the person lost?

Some of this stuff is so silly and childish that someone may wish to terminate fellowship if someone parts their hair on the left. UH OH, do you have to part your hair in the middle to be saved, or do you have to believe, confess, pray for forgiveness, and ask Jesus Christ to come into your heart as personal Lord and Saviour?

Dear Heavenly Father, we ask for guidance and wisdom to love our Brothers and Sisters in Christ. Lord, let our differences be used to strengthen each other by studying YOUR WORD and prayerfully nurturing our fellowship. Lord, we ask that you help us be fitting examples for the lost and the babes in Christ that you send to us. We ask these things in the precious name of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour. Amen.

[2nd Timothy]

Some of this stuff is so silly and childish that someone may wish to terminate fellowship if someone parts their hair on the left. UH OH, do you have to part your hair in the middle to be saved, or do you have to believe, confess, pray for forgiveness, and ask Jesus Christ to come into your heart as personal Lord and Saviour?

Dear Heavenly Father, we ask for guidance and wisdom to love our Brothers and Sisters in Christ. Lord, let our differences be used to strengthen each other by studying YOUR WORD and prayerfully nurturing our fellowship. Lord, we ask that you help us be fitting examples for the lost and the babes in Christ that you send to us. We ask these things in the precious name of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour. Amen.

AMEN and AMEN!

Now....Lets start afterglow.   Not sure about anyone else, but the Double Dispy combo, a side order of pre done dispy, topped off with just a spinkle of tripple dippy dispy sounds mouth watering.     Dispy King?  Dispy in the box? or McDispy?        

sorry....couldn't let it pass.

[Allinall]

I take it as a compliment, Allinall, but I will say this....I don't call myself a dispensationalist in the classic connotation. Rather, I use the "division" as a way of better understanding HOW God dealt with mankind, and the progressive means of showing to us our inadequacy.  And, along with Dr. Scofield (as he states emphatically numerous times), I do not consider God to have provided different means (house rules) of salvation over the course of time....throughout all of the "dispensations", there has been only ONE way of salvation, only ONE who could declare us righteous. "Salvation is by grace through faith, and that not of yourselves; not of works, lest any man should boast."    

That's cool!  I call myself a dispensationalist only from the teachings embedded deep within my skull when I was at school.  Now, the big argument there was whether Covenant Theology or Dispensationalism was the right doctrine.  They taught Dispensationalism, which I held to.  Now, after I've grown, and been able to discern more for myself, I've looked deeper at the Covenant Theologian's point of view, and have concluded, apart from an inaccurate linking of Israel to the Church and vice versa, they hold to a "dispensation" of sorts as well.  And their linkings aren't necessarily all that out of whack either.  Nevertheless, to be true to the word is the key, and I believe the Dispensational viewpoint to be the closer.  But you don't live or die by the viewpoint.  You live by the faith of the Son of God, Who loves you and gave Himself for you.  Right?

I digress...

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That said, and the only real point I have (no comments from the peanut gallery please  ), do we really need to doubt one another's claim to the salvific grace of our Lord Jesus Christ?
 

Seems to be the nature of those who think they know it all.

Yup.  Find myself doing that from time to time.  But all I have to do is remember I really don't have much of a clue, and things are back into proper perspective.  

[Allinall]

So - what do the following have to do with being saved?



Un-dispy
Re-dispied
Inside dispy
Outside dispy
Twice removed dispy
Double dispy
Reverse dispy
Over and under dispy
Anti dispy
Pre, Mid, Post, Done, No dispy
Reformed dispy
Old, Young, deceased dispy
  (OR, was that dippy or drippy?)

Tom,

I must say that this truly offends me.  Afterall, you left out my personal stance of Pre-Reformed Evangelical Post-Modern Bible Dispy.  No.  No question.  How can you be saved and leave out the PREPMBD's?

 

Nice point Brother!  

[Allinall]

Some of this stuff is so silly and childish that someone may wish to terminate fellowship if someone parts their hair on the left. UH OH, do you have to part your hair in the middle to be saved, or do you have to believe, confess, pray for forgiveness, and ask Jesus Christ to come into your heart as personal Lord and Saviour?

Dear Heavenly Father, we ask for guidance and wisdom to love our Brothers and Sisters in Christ. Lord, let our differences be used to strengthen each other by studying YOUR WORD and prayerfully nurturing our fellowship. Lord, we ask that you help us be fitting examples for the lost and the babes in Christ that you send to us. We ask these things in the precious name of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour. Amen.

AMEN and AMEN!

Now....Lets start afterglow.   Not sure about anyone else, but the Double Dispy combo, a side order of pre done dispy, topped off with just a spinkle of tripple dippy dispy sounds mouth watering.     Dispy King?  Dispy in the box? or McDispy?        

sorry....couldn't let it pass.

Great.  Now I'm hungry.  Wonder what's on sale at Kentucky Fried Dispy?   LOL@Tim

[Evangelist]

How on earth could you possibly leave out consideration of the tastiest dispy of all?

Ground Disp y frijoles y jalapenos!!  

[nChrist]

Brothers and Sisters,

     I'm glad that we were able to have a little bit of fun with something that does appear to be a bar for fellowship for some. All of the terms, tags, and labels get pretty confusing, but I think that I'm a:

Single Dippy with Sprinkles.    You know - those itsy-bitsy candies.

Love In Christ,
Tom

[Brother Love]

I think Dippy is the KEY-WORD

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[NateyCakes]

~Still struggling from the aftermath of Hurricane Charley here in Central FL. Its a whoppin 97 degrees out w/ 100 humidity & Ive got no home to go into & cool off in, so I'm moody & say my pitiful 2 cents here: There is this lit'l scripture that reads, "Judge not les ye be judged......" Might be little but says A LOT!!! Remember it. Go outside, do something, paint your bedroom Pink........Geesh.

[nChrist]

Hello NateyCakes,

I've been praying for the people in the path of Charley. Just to say that you lived is very positive. It is very sad to hear that you lost your home. I will be praying for your family.

Love In Christ,
Tom