US Elections 2004

[2nd Timothy]

Brothers and Sisters,

Well, I think that I've seen too much of Kerry. In short, I don't think he belongs in any kind of public office, especially not the office of President of the United States. I think he probably has horns under that $750 dollar haircut.  

Love In Christ,
Tom

The trashing of the candidates does not intelligently handle their positions on issues that affect America. Both candidates need to stop trashing each other as well as their constituents need to stop the trash. After all we have all sinned. Let he who is free of sin cast the first stone.

What are their positions on things that affect America? I want to know! So I can make an intelligent choice.
I donot want to know about their past mistakes in life. We all make mistakes. If you knew some of mine you would not vote for me either if you held my mistakes of the past against me.

Thank God for forgiveness.

Ollie

While I agree with the premise of your point, Kerry has made his past record a point that we should consider for choosing him, has he not?   Can't expect some not to take him at his request.

Grace and Peace!

[Kristi Ann]

Kerry is Scary and I don't Trust the Bush Administration at all!!

President Bush and Moses

President Bush while taking his morning constetutional noticed Moses about a block ahead of him.

Bush called out to Moses to hold up as he wanted to talk with him.

Moses ignoring Bush just kept on walking.

Bush finaly ketching up to Moses asked him why he would not stop and talk with him.

Moses replied,the last time i talked to a bush i had to spend forty years in the desert alone.



I recall that Moses had a headache... and God gave him two tablets.  

Blessings,  \o/

MsGuidedAngel

[sincereheart]

Acts 2:44.  "And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
 45.  And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need."

Acts 4:32.  "And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common."

Hmmmmm!
Did the early Christians practice a form of socialism or communism? Not The Soviet Union's brand, which was corrupted in totalitarianism, but God's, to insure no one did with out physical needs. Those that could, worked and shared, with those unable to work or had need.

Just curious if that is a bad road to follow since the early Christians give example of doing it?

Ollie

Maybe I'm just being extremely dense here, but how in the world does the example of early Christians banding together equate with expecting any government to provide for all our needs?  

[sincereheart]

Did not our Congress many years after make a statement that the Vietnam war was a waste of lives and resources for America and should not have been fought? Not sure of the exact words. My memoery says they did???

Ollie

Now see, I DON'T remember Congress mocking the US flag and then turning around and saying they were such good Americans and served honorably.  

[sincereheart]

Brothers and Sisters,

Well, I think that I've seen too much of Kerry. In short, I don't think he belongs in any kind of public office, especially not the office of President of the United States. I think he probably has horns under that $750 dollar haircut.  

Love In Christ,
Tom

The trashing of the candidates does not intelligently handle their positions on issues that affect America. Both candidates need to stop trashing each other as well as their constituents need to stop the trash. After all we have all sinned. Let he who is free of sin cast the first stone.

What are their positions on things that affect America? I want to know! So I can make an intelligent choice.
I donot want to know about their past mistakes in life. We all make mistakes. If you knew some of mine you would not vote for me either if you held my mistakes of the past against me.

Thank God for forgiveness.

Ollie

While I agree with the premise of your point, Kerry has made his past record a point that we should consider for choosing him, has he not?   Can't expect some not to take him at his request.

Grace and Peace!

Exactly! No one has a perfect past (or present). But when Kerry constantly reminds the American public of his FOUR MONTHS served in Vietnam, he conveniently forgets that he came back and made a big production out of how wrong he thought was and how wrong he thought the US was. Now he uses it as a point of pride? The man flip-flops on every issue that I can see..... Is he fit to be Commander-in-Chief of the US Armed Forces? NO!

Did he make mistakes and has since changed? Or does he try to justify and rationalize them? BIG DIFFERENCE!

[nChrist]

Ollie Said:

What are their positions on things that affect America? I want to know! So I can make an intelligent choice.
I don't want to know about their past mistakes in life. We all make mistakes. If you knew some of mine you would not vote for me either if you held my mistakes of the past against me.

Thank God for forgiveness.

Ollie

Brother Ollie,

I understand exactly what you are saying. This is one of the most dirty Presidential elections I've ever seen. I don't ever remember people like Al Gore, Ted Kennedy, and other major public figures standing and yelling at the top of their lungs that President Bush is a liar and distorting events to fit their purpose. They, themselves, had the same agreement with what they were shouting about. George Bush was put into a position where he had to answer. However, it wasn't fair for him to answer in their opinion.

The movies, books, and rhetoric is absolutely ridiculous. The military record of George Bush was attacked, and Kerry chose to run on his own military record. So, the ground rules were chosen by Kerry, and now he doesn't like the ground rules. If you read between the lines, the tenor of the Democratic Convention was changed by Kerry because he was afraid of the answers from Bush. However, it was too late to play nice, lies and attacks were still being made against Bush, and Kerry knew he wouldn't like the answers. Bingo!!, a light bulb came on for Kerry, and I guess he actually thought Bush wouldn't answer the barrage of lies. Bush had nothing to do with setting the tenor of the election, but he will have to answer because some folks actually believe much of the Kerry and Moore stuff.

YEP!!!, the answers will now be given, and Kerry won't like them. Kerry made everything back to the 60s fair game and part of his campaign. Bush must answer, and he will. In fact, Kerry will try to silence the answers. Watch - it will be a very interesting development - day by day. I look forward to the actual records being unveiled, the truth that can't be denied. It will be impossible to put a spin on them that Kerry will like or can explain.

For Kerry, it's not really a matter of forgiveness of what he did in the 60s, it's what he did in all the years since then, what he did yesterday, what he's doing today, and what he will do tomorrow. I can certainly forgive him and will, but I'll do everything possible as a Christian to see that he doesn't become President of the United States.

Love In Christ,
Tom

[ollie]

Acts 2:44.  "And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
 45.  And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need."

Acts 4:32.  "And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common."

Hmmmmm!
Did the early Christians practice a form of socialism or communism? Not The Soviet Union's brand, which was corrupted in totalitarianism, but God's, to insure no one did with out physical needs. Those that could, worked and shared, with those unable to work or had need.

Just curious if that is a bad road to follow since the early Christians give example of doing it?

Ollie

Maybe I'm just being extremely dense here, but how in the world does the example of early Christians banding together equate with expecting any government to provide for all our needs?  

"Just curious if that is a bad road to follow since the early Christians give example of doing it?"

We the people are supposed to be the government through representatives. Can we the people not provide for one anothers needs if need be?
If it was good enough for God's people in the first century, why can it not be good enough for Americans in the 21st century?

It would not be expected of any government to provide for all our needs, but perhaps those in want and need and incapable of providing for themselves.

Just curious if that is a bad road to follow since the early Christians give example of doing it.

Ollie

[ollie]

Brothers and Sisters,

Well, I think that I've seen too much of Kerry. In short, I don't think he belongs in any kind of public office, especially not the office of President of the United States. I think he probably has horns under that $750 dollar haircut.  

Love In Christ,
Tom

The trashing of the candidates does not intelligently handle their positions on issues that affect America. Both candidates need to stop trashing each other as well as their constituents need to stop the trash. After all we have all sinned. Let he who is free of sin cast the first stone.

What are their positions on things that affect America? I want to know! So I can make an intelligent choice.
I donot want to know about their past mistakes in life. We all make mistakes. If you knew some of mine you would not vote for me either if you held my mistakes of the past against me.

Thank God for forgiveness.

Ollie

While I agree with the premise of your point, Kerry has made his past record a point that we should consider for choosing him, has he not?   Can't expect some not to take him at his request.

Grace and Peace!

I am not altogether sure if Kerry brought it up initially or did it in defense of slurs brought on by the opponent.

If Kerry did bring up his military record is that any reason to continue the trash against him. His records say he is a hero in the Vietnam war.
The opponents record of military service cannot be found.

However I understand your point,

Ollie

[ollie]

Kerry is Scary and I don't Trust the Bush Administration at all!!

President Bush and Moses

President Bush while taking his morning constetutional noticed Moses about a block ahead of him.

Bush called out to Moses to hold up as he wanted to talk with him.

Moses ignoring Bush just kept on walking.

Bush finaly ketching up to Moses asked him why he would not stop and talk with him.

Moses replied,the last time i talked to a bush i had to spend forty years in the desert alone.



I recall that Moses had a headache... and God gave him two tablets.  

Blessings,  \o/

MsGuidedAngel

"Kerry is Scary and I don't Trust the Bush Administration at all!!"

Pray hard and know you are safe in Christ no matter who is elected. God's will be done.

Ollie

[ollie]

Did not our Congress many years after make a statement that the Vietnam war was a waste of lives and resources for America and should not have been fought? Not sure of the exact words. My memoery says they did???

Ollie

Now see, I DON'T remember Congress mocking the US flag and then turning around and saying they were such good Americans and served honorably.  

I donot understand what this statement has to do with my question?

I don't remember that either.

Ollie

[ollie]

Brothers and Sisters,

Well, I think that I've seen too much of Kerry. In short, I don't think he belongs in any kind of public office, especially not the office of President of the United States. I think he probably has horns under that $750 dollar haircut.  

Love In Christ,
Tom

The trashing of the candidates does not intelligently handle their positions on issues that affect America. Both candidates need to stop trashing each other as well as their constituents need to stop the trash. After all we have all sinned. Let he who is free of sin cast the first stone.

What are their positions on things that affect America? I want to know! So I can make an intelligent choice.
I donot want to know about their past mistakes in life. We all make mistakes. If you knew some of mine you would not vote for me either if you held my mistakes of the past against me.

Thank God for forgiveness.

Ollie

While I agree with the premise of your point, Kerry has made his past record a point that we should consider for choosing him, has he not?   Can't expect some not to take him at his request.

Grace and Peace!

Exactly! No one has a perfect past (or present). But when Kerry constantly reminds the American public of his FOUR MONTHS served in Vietnam, he conveniently forgets that he came back and made a big production out of how wrong he thought was and how wrong he thought the US was. Now he uses it as a point of pride? The man flip-flops on every issue that I can see..... Is he fit to be Commander-in-Chief of the US Armed Forces? NO!

Did he make mistakes and has since changed? Or does he try to justify and rationalize them? BIG DIFFERENCE!

What mistakes did Kerry make? Serving and fighting a war in a heroic fashion and then protesting it when he found out the war was a farce? He did not conveniently forget His protest, but spoke of it at the convention and why he protested. This is America and we are free to protest. Are we not?

There is so much fascist attitude among us, it is skerry.

How has Kerry flip-flopped?

Ollie    

[ollie]

Ollie Said:

What are their positions on things that affect America? I want to know! So I can make an intelligent choice.
I don't want to know about their past mistakes in life. We all make mistakes. If you knew some of mine you would not vote for me either if you held my mistakes of the past against me.

Thank God for forgiveness.

Ollie

Brother Ollie,

I understand exactly what you are saying. This is one of the most dirty Presidential elections I've ever seen. I don't ever remember people like Al Gore, Ted Kennedy, and other major public figures standing and yelling at the top of their lungs that President Bush is a liar and distorting events to fit their purpose. They, themselves, had the same agreement with what they were shouting about. George Bush was put into a position where he had to answer. However, it wasn't fair for him to answer in their opinion.

The movies, books, and rhetoric is absolutely ridiculous. The military record of George Bush was attacked, and Kerry chose to run on his own military record. So, the ground rules were chosen by Kerry, and now he doesn't like the ground rules. If you read between the lines, the tenor of the Democratic Convention was changed by Kerry because he was afraid of the answers from Bush. However, it was too late to play nice, lies and attacks were still being made against Bush, and Kerry knew he wouldn't like the answers. Bingo!!, a light bulb came on for Kerry, and I guess he actually thought Bush wouldn't answer the barrage of lies. Bush had nothing to do with setting the tenor of the election, but he will have to answer because some folks actually believe much of the Kerry and Moore stuff.

YEP!!!, the answers will now be given, and Kerry won't like them. Kerry made everything back to the 60s fair game and part of his campaign. Bush must answer, and he will. In fact, Kerry will try to silence the answers. Watch - it will be a very interesting development - day by day. I look forward to the actual records being unveiled, the truth that can't be denied. It will be impossible to put a spin on them that Kerry will like or can explain.

For Kerry, it's not really a matter of forgiveness of what he did in the 60s, it's what he did in all the years since then, what he did yesterday, what he's doing today, and what he will do tomorrow. I can certainly forgive him and will, but I'll do everything possible as a Christian to see that he doesn't become President of the United States.

Love In Christ,
Tom

Should not both candidates then have to answer for their past both Bush and Kerry? What of Bush's military records which so conveniently became inaccesible to the public? Kerry's records are their to be viewed. What about Bush letting Sammy Sosa go from the Texas Rangers?  

Ollie

[ollie]

"Kerry is Scary and I don't Trust the Bush Administration at all!!"



I'm here. Pick me, pick me!
There are other options just as bad as Kerry and Bush.

Sigh!
Ollie

[Shammu]

Kerry is Scary and I don't Trust the Bush Administration at all!!

President Bush and Moses

President Bush while taking his morning constetutional noticed Moses about a block ahead of him.

Bush called out to Moses to hold up as he wanted to talk with him.

Moses ignoring Bush just kept on walking.

Bush finaly ketching up to Moses asked him why he would not stop and talk with him.

Moses replied,the last time i talked to a bush i had to spend forty years in the desert alone.



I recall that Moses had a headache... and God gave him two tablets.  

Blessings,  \o/

MsGuidedAngel

"Kerry is Scary and I don't Trust the Bush Administration at all!!"

Pray hard and know you are safe in Christ no matter who is elected. God's will be done.

Ollie

Amen!! ollie
"God's will be done."

[2nd Timothy]

President Bush and Moses

President Bush while taking his morning constetutional noticed Moses about a block ahead of him.

Bush called out to Moses to hold up as he wanted to talk with him.

Moses ignoring Bush just kept on walking.

Bush finaly ketching up to Moses asked him why he would not stop and talk with him.

Moses replied,the last time i talked to a bush i had to spend forty years in the desert alone.



I recall that Moses had a headache... and God gave him two tablets.  

Blessings,  \o/

MsGuidedAngel

  LOL  I like it!

How about this one?

A woman in a hot air balloon realized she was lost. She lowered altitude
and spotted a man in a boat below. She  shouted to him, "Excuse me, can you
help me? I promised a friend I would meet him an hour ago, but I don't know
where I  am."
 
The man consulted his portable GPS and Replied, "You're in a hot air
balloon approximately 30 feet above a ground  elevation of 2346 feet above
sea level. You are 31 degrees, 14.97 minutes north latitude and 100
degrees, 49.09 minutes  west longitude."
 
She rolled her eyes and said, "You must be a Republican."
 
" I am," replied the man. "How did you know?"
 
"Well, answered the balloonist, "everything you told me is technically
correct, but I have no idea what to make of your information, and I'm still
lost.    Frankly, you've not been much help to me."
 
The man smiled and responded, "You must be a Democrat."
 
"I am," replied the balloonist. "How did you know?"
 
"Well," said the man, you don't know where you are or where you're going.
You've risen to where you are due to a large  quantity of hot air. You made
a promise that you have no idea how to keep, and you expect me to solve
your problem.   You're in exactly the same position you were in before we
met, but somehow, now it's my fault."  


Grace and Peace!