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« Reply #240 on: August 12, 2004, 01:41:07 PM »

Reba:
It doesn't. Period.

That phrase comes from a paper written by Thomas Jefferson some years later, in which he comments that the founding principles of the Declaration and Constitution lead one to a conclusion that there should exist a "wall of separation between church and state, so that the state cannot impose upon the electorate a mandatory form of religious belief or practice, such as has existed in the past in England and other countries..." (paraphrased).

It was not until many years later that the federal court systems began introducing that phraseology and thought into legal decisions, notably during the O'Hair school prayer case.
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« Reply #241 on: August 12, 2004, 05:08:15 PM »

do ya know Kerry and Bush will be in Portland, Oregon tomorrow Friday the 13th of August, 2004!!

I was going to go to a Kerry thingy near the water front. I changed my mind and am staying home which is 10 miles away from all this.  

Police Station Communication Towers have been burned in many locations in Washington (just a few miles from me) and Oregon.  So, if there would be a prime time for Terriosts to attack tomorrow would be their time.  This is why I am staying away from everything and will watch it on TV instead!!

that my .01 cents for the day!

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« Reply #242 on: August 13, 2004, 03:07:15 PM »

I am Voting for Bush........ just so everyone knows.  It's up to me to change my mind if I want..   Undecided  Cry
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« Reply #243 on: August 13, 2004, 04:31:41 PM »

Just currious (and you don't have to answer if you don't want to) what was it that led you to change your mind?

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« Reply #244 on: August 13, 2004, 11:58:34 PM »

I am Voting for Bush........ just so everyone knows.  It's up to me to change my mind if I want..   Undecided  Cry
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Just like a woman. Wink We still love you MGA, and I won't ask you why you changed your mind.
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« Reply #245 on: August 20, 2004, 08:41:19 AM »

"In an Oct. 14, 1979, letter to the editor of the Boston Herald, Kerry wrote: "I remember spending Christmas Eve of 1968 five miles across the Cambodian border being shot at by our South Vietnamese allies who were drunk and celebrating Christmas. The absurdity of almost being killed by our own allies in a country in which President Nixon claimed there were no American troops was very real."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,128561,00.html

Hmmmm.... That's interesting. Especially seeing as how Nixon wasn't even President in 1968.  Roll Eyes

Was Kerry even in Cambodia?  Roll Eyes

The Kerry campaign first asserted that the Massachusetts senator never said that he was in Cambodia, only that he was near the country. But when presented with a copy of the Congressional Record and asked about Kerry's letter in the Boston Herald, the campaign said it would come up with an explanation. After repeated phone calls, there was still no clarification.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,128561,00.html

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« Reply #246 on: August 20, 2004, 08:45:28 AM »

Hmmmm.... That's interesting. Especially seeing as how Nixon wasn't even President in 1968. Grin

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« Reply #247 on: August 20, 2004, 08:53:28 AM »

We All Have Our Priorities  Roll Eyes

Kerry's head for politics:

Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry likes to style himself as the candidate of working folks, while scissoring President Bush as the protector of the rich.

"We have to bring back an America that values work and honors working people, day in and day out," Kerry urged in a recent stump speech.

But when every campaign stop is a photo op, even a man of the people needs a high-quality haircut.

I hear that when Kerry was in Portland, Ore., last weekend preparing to windsurf on the Columbia River Gorge, he flew his Washington-based hairstylist, Isabelle Goetz, across the country to give him a camera-ready trim.

A knowledgeable source told me that the French-born Goetz - who tends the Massachusetts senator's mane while also caring for Sen. Hillary Clinton's coiffure - caught up with the candidate in Portland on Friday (after flying commercial, I'm told), trimmed his luxuriant salt-and-pepper locks and then returned to Washington the same night.
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« Reply #248 on: August 20, 2004, 09:14:32 AM »

And for those who want to vote for Kerry based on personal, as opposed to national, reasons here's an interesting thought:

Health care for all, a neat euphemism for socialised medicine, only increases one's dependence on the government -- an important pillar of Communism. Socialised medicine is unworkable. Under Great Britain's national health care system, for instance, patients often wait months for heart surgeryhttp://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=743262003... unless they have their operation in another countryhttp://economictimes.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow?msid=49583.

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« Reply #249 on: August 20, 2004, 09:20:24 AM »

The Washington Times
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December 6, 2002

John Kerry's war record

As Sen. John Kerry, Massachusetts Democrat, considers a bid for the White House, Americans should know a few things about him that he might prefer go unmentioned — and I don't mean his $75 haircuts.

When Mr. Kerry pontificated at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial on Veterans Day, a group of veterans turned their backs on him and walked away. They remembered Mr. Kerry as the anti-war activist who testified before Congress during the war, accusing veterans of being war criminals. The dust jacket of Mr. Kerry's pro-Hanoi book, "The New Soldier," features a photograph of his ragged band of radicals mocking the U.S. Marine Corps Memorial, which depicts the flag-raising on Iwo Jima, with an upside-down American flag.

Retired Gen. George S. Patton III charged that Mr. Kerry's actions as an anti-war activist had "given aid and comfort to the enemy," as had the actions of Ramsey Clark and Jane Fonda. Also, Mr. Kerry lied when he threw what he claimed were his war medals over the White House fence; he later admitted they weren't his. Now they are displayed on his office wall.
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As Mr. Kerry contemplates a run for the presidency, people must remember that he has fought harder for Hanoi as an anti-war activist and a senator than he did against the Vietnamese communists while serving in the Navy in Vietnam.
MICHAEL BENGE
Foreign Service officer and former Vietnam POW (1968 to 1973)
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« Reply #250 on: August 20, 2004, 01:22:56 PM »

Before his death, Maj. Gen. George S. Patton called Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) "soft on communism" for his antiwar stance during the Vietnam War and charged that Kerry "gave aid and comfort to the enemy and probably caused some of my guys to get killed."
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« Reply #251 on: August 21, 2004, 01:02:39 PM »

Brothers and Sisters,

Well, I think that I've seen too much of Kerry. In short, I don't think he belongs in any kind of public office, especially not the office of President of the United States. I think he probably has horns under that $750 dollar haircut.   Cheesy

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« Reply #252 on: August 22, 2004, 08:47:58 AM »

And for those who want to vote for Kerry based on personal, as opposed to national, reasons here's an interesting thought:

Health care for all, a neat euphemism for socialised medicine, only increases one's dependence on the government -- an important pillar of Communism. Socialised medicine is unworkable. Under Great Britain's national health care system, for instance, patients often wait months for heart surgeryhttp://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=743262003... unless they have their operation in another countryhttp://economictimes.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow?msid=49583.

http://guardian.blogdrive.com/archive/cm-08_cy-2004_m-08_d-13_y-2004_o-0.html
Acts 2:44.  "And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
 45.  And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need."


Acts 4:32.  "And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common."

Hmmmmm!
Did the early Christians practice a form of socialism or communism? Not The Soviet Union's brand, which was corrupted in totalitarianism, but God's, to insure no one did with out physical needs. Those that could, worked and shared, with those unable to work or had need.

Just curious if that is a bad road to follow since the early Christians give example of doing it?

Ollie

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« Reply #253 on: August 22, 2004, 08:52:08 AM »

The Washington Times
LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
December 6, 2002

John Kerry's war record

As Sen. John Kerry, Massachusetts Democrat, considers a bid for the White House, Americans should know a few things about him that he might prefer go unmentioned &#8212; and I don't mean his $75 haircuts.

When Mr. Kerry pontificated at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial on Veterans Day, a group of veterans turned their backs on him and walked away. They remembered Mr. Kerry as the anti-war activist who testified before Congress during the war, accusing veterans of being war criminals. The dust jacket of Mr. Kerry's pro-Hanoi book, "The New Soldier," features a photograph of his ragged band of radicals mocking the U.S. Marine Corps Memorial, which depicts the flag-raising on Iwo Jima, with an upside-down American flag.

Retired Gen. George S. Patton III charged that Mr. Kerry's actions as an anti-war activist had "given aid and comfort to the enemy," as had the actions of Ramsey Clark and Jane Fonda. Also, Mr. Kerry lied when he threw what he claimed were his war medals over the White House fence; he later admitted they weren't his. Now they are displayed on his office wall.
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As Mr. Kerry contemplates a run for the presidency, people must remember that he has fought harder for Hanoi as an anti-war activist and a senator than he did against the Vietnamese communists while serving in the Navy in Vietnam.
MICHAEL BENGE
Foreign Service officer and former Vietnam POW (1968 to 1973)
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Did I mention that my husband is a retired Marine?  Roll Eyes
Did not our Congress many years after make a statement that the Vietnam war was a waste of lives and resources for America and should not have been fought? Not sure of the exact words. My memoery says they did???

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« Reply #254 on: August 22, 2004, 08:58:45 AM »

Brothers and Sisters,

Well, I think that I've seen too much of Kerry. In short, I don't think he belongs in any kind of public office, especially not the office of President of the United States. I think he probably has horns under that $750 dollar haircut.   Cheesy

Love In Christ,
Tom
The trashing of the candidates does not intelligently handle their positions on issues that affect America. Both candidates need to stop trashing each other as well as their constituents need to stop the trash. After all we have all sinned. Let he who is free of sin cast the first stone.

What are their positions on things that affect America? I want to know! So I can make an intelligent choice.
I donot want to know about their past mistakes in life. We all make mistakes. If you knew some of mine you would not vote for me either if you held my mistakes of the past against me.

Thank God for forgiveness.

Ollie
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