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« on: June 16, 2004, 05:02:28 AM »

Interesting note.  Future generations will not know history as it really was.  And it is too bad and so sad that a few who object will have such a profound effect on the truth!

From an observer at the dedication:
 
Today I went to visit the new World War II Memorial in Washington, DC. I got an unexpected history lesson. Since I'm a baby boomer, I was one of the youngest in the crowd. Most were the age of my parents, veterans of "the greatest war" with their families. It was a beautiful day, and people were smiling and happy to be there. Hundreds of us milled around the memorial, reading the inspiring words of Ike and Truman that are engraved there.
 
On the Pacific side of the memorial, a group of us gathered to read the words President Roosevelt used to announce the attack on Pearl Harbor: "Yesterday, December 7, 1941-- a date which will live in infamy-- the United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked." One woman read the words aloud: " With confidence in our armed forces, with the unbounding determination of our people, we will gain the inevitable triumph." But as she read, she was suddenly angry. "Wait a minute," she said. "They left out the end of the quote. They left out the most important part. Roosevelt said 'so help us God."
 
"You're probably right," her husband said. "We're not supposed to say things like that now."
 
"I know I'm right," she insisted. "I remember the speech." The two shook their heads sadly and walked away.
 
Listening to their conversation, I thought to myself, "Well, it has been
50 years. She's probably forgotten."
 
But she was right.
 
I went home and pulled out the book my book club is reading. It's "Flags of Our Fathers" by James Bradley. It's all about Iwo Jima. I haven't gotten too far in the book. It's tough to read because it's a graphic description of the battles in the Pacific.
 
But right there it was on page 58. Roosevelt's speech to the nation. It ends "so help us God."
 
The people who edited out that part of the speech when they engraved it on the memorial could have fooled me. I was born after the war. But they couldn't fool the people who were there. Roosevelt's words are engraved on their hearts.
 
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« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2004, 01:46:29 PM »

I have a recording of the speech in question. President Roosevelt did say, "so help us God." at the end of the speech. My grandparents copied the speech off the radio. (reel to reel) Which I have put on a cassette tape.
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« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2004, 01:52:35 PM »

Here is a copy of the recording typed by me.

Yesterday, December 7, 1941 - a date which will live in infamy - the United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Empire of Japan.
The United States was at peace with that nation and, at the solicitation of Japan, was still in conversation with its Government and its Emperor looking toward the maintenance of peace in the Pacific. Indeed, one hour after Japanese air squadrons had commenced bombing in Oahu, the Japanese Ambassador to the United States and his colleague delivered to the Secretary of State a formal reply to a recent American message. While this reply stated that it seemed useless to continue the existing diplomatic negotiations, it contained no threat or hint of war or armed attack.

It will be recorded that the distance of Hawaii from Japan makes it obvious that the attack was deliberately planned many days or even weeks ago. During the intervening time the Japanese Government has deliberately sought to deceive the United States by false statements and expressions of hope for continued peace.

The attack yesterday on the Hawaiian Islands has caused severe damage to American naval and military forces. Very many American lives have been lost. In addition American ships have been reported torpedoed on the high seas between San Francisco and Honolulu.

Yesterday the Japanese Government also launched an attack against Malaya. Last night Japanese forces attacked Hong Kong. Last night Japanese forces attacked Guam. Last night Japanese forces attacked the Philippine Islands. Last night the Japanese attacked Wake Island. This morning the Japanese attacked Midway Island.

Japan has, therefore, undertaken a surprise offensive extending throughout the Pacific area. The facts of yesterday speak for themselves. The people of the United States have already formed their opinions and well understand the implicationsto the very life and safety of our nation.

As Commander-in-Chief of the Army and Navy, I have directed that all measures be taken for our defense.

Always will we remember the character of the onslaught against us. No matter how long it may take us to overcome this premeditated invasion, the American people in their righteous might will win through to absolute victory.

I believe I interpret the will of the Congress and of the people when I assert that we will not only defend ourselves to the uttermost but will make very certain that this form of treachery shall never endanger us again.

Hostilities exist. There is no blinking at the fact that our people, our territory and our interests are in grave danger.

With confidence in our armed forces - with the unbounded determination of our people - we will gain the inevitable triumph - so help us God.

I ask that the Congress declare that since the unprovoked and dastardly attack by Japan on Sunday, December seventh, a state of war has existed between the United States and the Japanese Empire.
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« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2004, 03:51:52 AM »

Yet another untrue urban myth cut and pasted from the internet without checking.  The modern form of gossip.

See:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/memorial.asp

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« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2004, 12:12:47 PM »

Define "is".
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« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2004, 01:40:11 AM »

ROLF!!!!!
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« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2004, 08:49:23 AM »

Praying for you ebia snopes Smiley

Poor thing. He doesnít even know his false God canít hear him. Cry

Wink Wink Smiley I will be praying for you, to the one true God. Maybe one day you will find him, too. Smiley
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Praying for you ebia snopes Smiley

Poor thing. He doesnít even know his false God canít hear him. Cry

Wink Wink Smiley I will be praying for you, to the one true God. Maybe one day you will find him, too. Smiley

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« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2004, 04:29:53 AM »

Praying for you ebia snopes Smiley

Poor thing. He doesnít even know his false God canít hear him. Cry

Wink Wink Smiley I will be praying for you, to the one true God. Maybe one day you will find him, too. Smiley

Hail Mary Tibby, she is your god Grin

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Quote from: Ambassador4Christ link=board=4;threadid=4140;start=0#msg62498 Hail Mary Tibby, she is your god Grin
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Your God, Jack Chick, has been lying to you. Sorry. YOu need to get your right life with Jesus. Accept him into your heart, your life will be changed forever! We will all pray for you Cry
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« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2004, 01:11:52 AM »

Quote from: Ambassador4Christ link=board=4;threadid=4140;start=0#msg62498 Hail Mary Tibby, she is your god Grin
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Your God, Jack Chick, has been lying to you. Sorry. YOu need to get your right life with Jesus. Accept him into your heart, your life will be changed forever! We will all pray for you Cry
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Quote from: Ambassador4Christ link=board=4;threadid=4140;start=0#msg62498 Hail Mary Tibby, she is your god Grin
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Count me in on prayer, he/she need help.

I agree Tibby needs a  lot of prayer and a lot of fasting, if and when he becomes a true believer I am sure he will get out of his mary cult.  Smiley
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Yes, he does need a lot of prayer and fasting. God knows you will not do that for your self. I know how you donít believe and all that, but just because you think he doesnít exist doesnít mean he isnít real. He is calling out to you, BL, Jesus wants you to accept him into your heart. All you have to do is pray a prayer and believe it, and you can be saved. He loved you so much he gave his life for you. Please, do not reject him any longer. We will cry out to him for you, maybe one day you will accept him. Cry Cry

I donít know if you where once hurt by a church, or if your parents where no Christians either, or something else, but whatever is keeping you from taking Jesus into your heart, I will pray God heals it and that you accept him. Undecided
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« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2004, 06:31:44 PM »

I need prayer and fasting also!!!!  Please, include me!
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