Mark of the Beast Technology here!

[musicllover]

What happens if a person takes this chip for reasons that have nothing to do with the anti christ, for example the military could use it instead of dog tags, or  maybe a person knows nothing of the "end times" etc etc? That is why I asked about the condition of the heart? Kinda like what comes first decision or mark.....surely the decision must come. The mark can not be forced or can it?
musicllover

This is a tough question.   From other verses in Revelation it appears that all who accept the mark ALSO worship the beast.

Rev 14:9  Then another angel, a third one, followed them, saying with a loud voice, "If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand,
Rev 14:10  he also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is mixed in full strength in the cup of His anger; and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.

Most every mention of the mark after where it is explained at first, includes worship of the beast.  I am not positive that the two are tied, but it certainly appears that way.   I suspect, that to receive this mark, one would have to pledge allegiance to the beast in some fashion....or perhaps denounce Christianity.  

I'm pretty sure you would not be able to take the mark accidentally as a true believer.   Others however, might.  It does say, that "He CAUSES all to receive a mark".   It will come from the antichrist, and it is necessary to buy or sell at that point.    

Hope this helps a little

Grace and Peace!

Timothy,
        Yes this does, at least it another opinion that is the same as how I understand. Worship of the image is necessary, once that is done, the mark become apparant, wether in chip or tatoo form. Its a done deal at that point no turning back, your heart if forever sealed for damnation.
      I guess I am hyper vigilant when it comes to the mark and endtimes. I have had for years, dreams of demons and end times senerios. I have no idea why, I wasn't raised in a church. But I had a Grandmother who spoke of the blood up the the horses bridles, and not being able to have bibles, and even in an unchurched family I knew that Jesus was an important person. It scared me as a kid, well ok it scares me now, althought I can't wait either. After I had children the dreams were more common. I suppose the fear/responsiblity of raising Godly children.  Now after they are beginning to reach adulthood and I see my short comings I worry, did I give them enough info, or maybe I give them to much like the tibits from my grandmother.
      With the technology in place for what appears to be the ablity to have the "mark" it just bring all the concern back.
   Maybe I am way off here, but I can see the anti christ's military people forcing christians to renounce Christ, (those left behind, that have made a decision after the rapture) if they don't they will kill a loved one in some horrible painful way right before their eyes. I read the left behind series and there are some such drama in the fictional based stories. So I guess I'm not the only one with a great imagination at work (lol) but I do worry about such things...... With tech. in place I must ask, have I given my children, my Sunday school class  (teenagers) enough information for them to be ready to die, no matter rapture or natural death.
      The endtimes is a fasinating subject, like the best love, story, and horror movie excets its very very real.  Thanks
musicllover

[Shammu]

New Jersey Police Chief chipped, part of strategy to accelerate adoption of chip
Bergen County Chief Of Police Jack Schmidig leads Regional Roll-Out of VeriChip by Receiving a VeriChip
Friday April 22, 8:30 am ET

With Hospital Emergency Room Infrastructure To Provide Secure ID and Medical Record Access For VeriChip Patients, Thought and Opinion Leaders to Play Key Role in Adoption of VeriChip(TM)

DELRAY BEACH, Fla.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--April 22, 2005-- VeriChip Corporation, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Applied Digital (NASDAQ: ADSX - News), announced today that the Bergen County, New Jersey Chief of Police has been implanted with the VeriChip. Chief of Police Jack Schmidig, a member of the police force for over 30 years, received a VeriChip as part of the Company's strategy of enlisting key regional leaders to accelerate adoption of the VeriChip. With hospital emergency room infrastructure forming, patients will have the ability to provide secure ID and medical record access in an emergency or clinical situation.

"High-profile regional leaders are accepting the VeriChip, representing an excellent example of our approach to gaining adoption of the technology," said Kevin H. McLaughlin, VeriChip Corporation's CEO. "The northern New Jersey area represents one of our early regional targets, and in a short time period we have secured a leading hospital in the region which has agreed to adopt the VeriChip System to scan patients; initiated efforts to educate the physician community in conjunction with one of our distribution partners Henry Schein Corporation, and implanted several high-profile members of the community with the VeriChip. We intend to employ this approach on a regional basis to accelerate acceptance of this Class II medical device."

VeriChip Corporation has adopted three key elements to its marketing strategy to develop regional acceptance for VeriChip. They include developing the infrastructure at regional hospitals to support the VeriChip System (scanner and database) in the Emergency Rooms; educating the medical community in the region in conjunction with Henry Schein and other distribution partners; and seeking high-profile members of the community to receive the VeriChip to raise awareness of the device.

Initially, the Company has identified several groups of patients that are likely to benefit from the VeriChip due to medical conditions. These include diabetics, chronic and cardiac care patients, memory impaired patients and patients with implanted medical devices. These patients would benefit from having a VeriChip as a result of medical conditions that increase the likelihood of an emergency room visit, which could require time-sensitive procedures where access to medical records would be critical.

Using the VeriChip System, the emergency room attendant could scan the VeriChip in the patient's arm, accessing a unique 16-digit ID number. This number would be linked to a medical records database, which would provide detailed information on implanted medical devices and patient medical records, which could provide valuable information allowing the hospital to quickly implement the appropriate procedures on patients who otherwise might not be able to communicate medical histories due to impaired conditions.

About VeriChip Corporation

VeriChip Corporation, a wholly owned subsidiary of Applied Digital, provides leading-edge security solutions for people, their assets, and their environments. From the world's first and only FDA-cleared, human-implantable microchip to the only active RFID tag with patented skin-sensing capabilities, VeriChip leads the way in next-generation RFID technologies. Today, over 3,000 installations in healthcare, security, industry, and governments worldwide benefit from both the protection and cost savings that VeriChip Corporation's innovation delivers. For more information on VeriChip Corporation, please visit www.verichipcorp.com.

About Applied Digital

Applied Digital develops innovative security products for consumer, commercial, and government sectors worldwide. The Company's unique and often proprietary products provide security for people, animals, the food supply, government/military arena, and commercial assets. Included in this diversified product line are RFID applications, end-to-end food safety systems, GPS/Satellite communications, and telecomm and security infrastructure, positioning Applied Digital as the leader of Security Through Innovation. Applied Digital is the owner of a majority position in Digital Angel Corporation (AMEX: DOC - News).

For more information, visit the company's website at http://www.adsx.com.

Statements about the Company's future expectations, including future revenues and earnings, and all other statements in this press release other than historical facts are "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933, Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, and as that term is defined in the Private Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties and are subject to change at any time, and the Company's actual results could differ materially from expected results. The Company undertakes no obligation to update forward-looking statements to reflect subsequently occurring events or circumstances.

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/050422/225197.html?.v=1

[AveCaesar]

Maybe someone alrady mentioned this, i didn't read all seven pages of posts.  But I am sure that all the recent news about Children being abducted and sexually abused (especially in Florida, the state that i recently took up residence in, ugh, if only I'd known how krazy these people are, hah) will have an effect on people.  People will use it as an excuse to get their children, and maybe even themselves, inserted with some sort of tracking chip.  The media is creating this fear by reporting all these sad stroies which will most likely have repercussions.
  I see all these other posts about all the people and places that are already adopting this technology and its kinda scary.  
  The Mighty Lord is no doubt returning soon. Praise Jesus.
Peace.

[2nd Timothy]

Maybe someone alrady mentioned this, i didn't read all seven pages of posts.  But I am sure that all the recent news about Children being abducted and sexually abused (especially in Florida, the state that i recently took up residence in, ugh, if only I'd known how krazy these people are, hah) will have an effect on people.  People will use it as an excuse to get their children, and maybe even themselves, inserted with some sort of tracking chip.  The media is creating this fear by reporting all these sad stroies which will most likely have repercussions.
  I see all these other posts about all the people and places that are already adopting this technology and its kinda scary.  
  The Mighty Lord is no doubt returning soon. Praise Jesus.
Peace.

Its possible.   We seem to be seeing more and more reasons that this particular technology would be a good thing.   Mainly terrorism and the ability to keep tabs of people who would do terrible things.   Jesus indicated these times would be similar.

Luk 21:26  Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

Its easy even as believers to be frightened about what lies ahead.   But our hope is in the return of Christ!

1Th 4:16  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1Th 4:17  Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
1Th 4:18  Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

Grace and Peace!

[2nd Timothy]

Musiclover said:

Timothy,
        Yes this does, at least it another opinion that is the same as how I understand. Worship of the image is necessary, once that is done, the mark become apparant, wether in chip or tatoo form. Its a done deal at that point no turning back, your heart if forever sealed for damnation.
      I guess I am hyper vigilant when it comes to the mark and endtimes. I have had for years, dreams of demons and end times senerios. I have no idea why, I wasn't raised in a church. But I had a Grandmother who spoke of the blood up the the horses bridles, and not being able to have bibles, and even in an unchurched family I knew that Jesus was an important person. It scared me as a kid, well ok it scares me now, althought I can't wait either. After I had children the dreams were more common. I suppose the fear/responsiblity of raising Godly children.  Now after they are beginning to reach adulthood and I see my short comings I worry, did I give them enough info, or maybe I give them to much like the tibits from my grandmother.
      With the technology in place for what appears to be the ablity to have the "mark" it just bring all the concern back.
   Maybe I am way off here, but I can see the anti christ's military people forcing christians to renounce Christ, (those left behind, that have made a decision after the rapture) if they don't they will kill a loved one in some horrible painful way right before their eyes. I read the left behind series and there are some such drama in the fictional based stories. So I guess I'm not the only one with a great imagination at work (lol) but I do worry about such things...... With tech. in place I must ask, have I given my children, my Sunday school class  (teenagers) enough information for them to be ready to die, no matter rapture or natural death.
      The endtimes is a fasinating subject, like the best love, story, and horror movie excets its very very real.  Thanks
musicllover

ML, sorry I havent responded to this sooner, but I didn't see your post till now.

There is a lot of talk like this amongst the mid trib proponents.   That we must be prepared to face persecution in order that we might stand at that time.   I find this somewhat troubling, because I'm not sure there is no amount of preparation that would make us ready for such a thing.    If ones faith is truly in Christ, only He would be able to make us stand up in the face of such terrible things.   If someone is basing their ability to stand up to such trials due to preparing in their minds to do so, I'm affraid their faith is placed in the wrong place.

I personally believe the rapture will happen prior to this, but Jesus told His deciples not to worry about what they would say when brought to trial, that HE would give them words.   Faith in Christ I believe is the Key, not Rambo training.  


I pray that the rapture takes place prior, but either way I trust God knows best!  

Grace and Peace!

[Shammu]

Applied Digital's VeriChip Corporation signs new distributors for Asian, European and Middle East regions



VeriChip Corporation, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Applied Digital, a provider of Security Through Innovation announced that it has selected new distributors for the Asian, European and Middle Eastern regions. Through these selections, the company expects to expand the use of VeriChip for security and medical applications in China, Japan, Malaysia, Taiwan, Israel and Germany.

VeriChip awarded Scientific Innovation and Integration (SII) Korea, the non-exclusive distribution rights to, China, Taiwan and Japan. SII is a multinational provider of security and healthcare services with offices based in South Korea. In addition, the Company awarded a non-exclusive distribution agreement to Inforlexus, Inc., a provider of secure technology for people, providing IT management and security products for 30 years for Malaysia. The Company had previously awarded the exclusive distributorship to another entity in the country that failed to meet its minimum purchase requirement and was, therefore, terminated.

The Company also awarded non-exclusive distribution rights to Biometronix for Germany. Biometronix is a German-based company specialising in high security solutions for access control utilising biometric technologies. Finally, VeriChip Corporation granted non-exclusive distribution rights to Glezer Technology, an Israeli company focusing on new technologies for the healthcare and security marketplace.
http://www.digitalmediaasia.com/default.asp?ArticleID=7541&cachecommand=bypass&Print=true

[Shammu]

Digital Angel Corporation and VeriChip Corporation Announce Plans to Initiate Clinical Studies of Verichip With Bio-Thermo (Temperature Sensing) Capabilities
Thursday April 28, 1:16 pm ET

SO. ST. PAUL, Minn., April 28 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Digital Angel Corporation (Amex: DOC - News), an advanced technology company in the field of rapid and accurate identification location tracking, and condition monitoring of high-value assets and VeriChip Corporation, a wholly owned subsidiary of Applied Digital (Nasdaq: ADSX - News) today announced that the companies plan to initiate clinical studies on an enhanced version of its Verichip implantable radio frequency identification device. The enhanced product will include temperature sensing capabilities in addition to its existing identification capabilities. The companies will retain an independent internationally recognized research institute to conduct the trials. Based upon the results of that study, Digital Angel plans to pursue the necessary regulatory procedures to obtain clearance from the Food and Drug Administration to distribute such a transponder in the United States for human use. In October of 2004, Digital Angel received clearance from the Food and Drug Administration to distribute a transponder for patient identification applications.

The Verichip with temperature sensing capabilities will allow a transponder to provide a unique identification code as well as to provide the temperature of the individual. Various potential customers have approached Digital Angel and Verichip about incorporating the temperature sensing capability into the Verichip.

A temperature sensing chip for animals (specifically companion pets) was introduced by Digital Angel under the Bio-Thermo mark in the United Kingdom at the end of 2004. Digital Angel has received the necessary regulatory approvals to market the Bio-Thermo chip for animal applications in the United States and plans to introduce the temperature-sensing chip for animal use in the third quarter of this year. The Bio-Thermo transponder for companion pets has also been introduced in Europe and Japan.

About Digital Angel Corporation

Digital Angel Corporation develops and deploys sensor and communications technologies that enable rapid and accurate identification, location tracking, and condition monitoring of high-value assets. Applications for the Company's products include identification and monitoring of pets, fish, humans and livestock through its patented implantable microchips; location tracking and message monitoring of vehicles and aircraft in remote locations through systems that integrate GPS and geosynchronous satellite communications; and monitoring of asset conditions such as temperature and movement, through advanced miniature sensors.

Digital Angel Corporation is majority-owned by Applied Digital, Inc. (Nasdaq: ADSX - News). For more information about Digital Angel, please visit www.DigitalAngelCorp.com.

The statements in this press release that are not strictly historical, are "forward-looking" statements within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 and are intended to be covered by the safe harbors created by these sections. The forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties and the actual results that the Company achieves may differ materially from these forward-looking statements due to such risks and uncertainties, including, but not limited to, that the Company's majority stockholder, Applied Digital Inc. owns 55.2% of the Company's common stock; that new accounting pronouncements may impact the Company's future results of operation; that the Company may continue to incur losses, that infringements by third parties on the Company's intellectual property or development of substantially equivalent proprietary technology by the Company's competitors could negatively affect the Company's business; that domestic and foreign government regulation and other factors could impair the Company's ability to develop and sell the Company's products in certain markets; that the Company relies on sales to government contractors of its animal identification products, and any decline in the demand by these customers for the Company's products could negatively affect the Company's business; that the Company depends on a single production arrangement for its patented syringe-injectable microchips; that the Company depends on principal customers; that the Company competes with other companies and the products sold by the Company's competitors could become more popular than the Company's products or render the Company's products as obsolete; that the Company's earnings will decline if the Company must write-off goodwill and other intangible assets; that the exercise of options and warrants outstanding and available for issuance may adversely affect the market price of the Company's common stock ;that currency exchange rate fluctuations could have an adverse effect on the Company's sales and financial results; and that the Company depends on a small team of senior management and the Company may have difficulty attracting and retaining additional personnel. A detailed statement of risks and uncertainties is contained in the Company's reports to the Securities and Exchange Commission, including in particular the Company's Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended December 31, 2004. Investors and stockholders are urged to read this document carefully. The Company can offer no assurances that any projections, assumptions or forecasts made or discussed in this release will be met, and investors should understand the risks of investing solely due to such projections. The Company undertakes no obligation to revise any forward-looking statements in order to reflect events or circumstances that may arise after the date of this press release.
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050428/lath095.html?.v=7&printer=1

[jesusavedme]

Just curious to know if you guys were aware that the Universal Product Code contains 666?  Notice that there are three bars, one on the left, one on the right, and one in the centre that are not showing their numerical value.  Take a guess at why!  Also, the Word Wide Web is encoded also.  In Hebrew, W's number value is 6.  www.com = 666.com  Also, notice the phrase WORLD-WIDE WEB, sounds like a synonym for the New World Order!  The antichrist will excercise power over all nations and kindreds and perhaps the internet is likewise a mechanism in this scam.  Not trying to sound depressing, just realistic.  What do you guys think?

[Shammu]

Just curious to know if you guys were aware that the Universal Product Code contains 666?  Notice that there are three bars, one on the left, one on the right, and one in the centre that are not showing their numerical value.  

Some products also have "H" and "RH" in the bar code. We covered this a long time ago.    Glad to see you are keeping up todate.

[twobombs]

People that work in the ICT sector know that RFID is here to stay.
Last month I bought a wireless mouse without batteries for my wife.

Guess what: It works on RFID, the pad under the mouse 'beams' the juice to the mouse, and its electronics start to work, you can even move the mouse an inch in the air and power is still being transmitted for the mouse to operate.

Mayor food retailers are replacing their barcode with RFID, as it will not only make purchase of a product easier; theft will become increasingly difficult in the same product.

People will be issued card with the same technology; and here is the very, very small step toward 'the mark' ; people LOSE their cards, or FORGET them....  

Then my friends and fellow citicens, the pretrib rapture plans are over; and reality and fear will strike into millions and millions of wrong educated christians.

But as the word says :
Luk 16:8  And the lord commended the unjust steward, because he had done wisely: for the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light.

and further on:
Luk 16:13  No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

Choose, as there is a choice: and yes you should prepare !

And then one might ask : with what should we prepare ?

Read and hear :
Rev 18:3  For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
Rev 18:4  And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

God will seal off His servants, and when He asks to forsake then YOU MUST FORSAKE !

More info on this topic: http://www.antipasministries.com/

[2nd Timothy]

Just curious to know if you guys were aware that the Universal Product Code contains 666?  Notice that there are three bars, one on the left, one on the right, and one in the centre that are not showing their numerical value.  Take a guess at why!  Also, the Word Wide Web is encoded also.  In Hebrew, W's number value is 6.  www.com = 666.com  Also, notice the phrase WORLD-WIDE WEB, sounds like a synonym for the New World Order!  The antichrist will excercise power over all nations and kindreds and perhaps the internet is likewise a mechanism in this scam.  Not trying to sound depressing, just realistic.  What do you guys think?

Actually I have some insight to the bar code thingy....being an IT tech at Blockbuster Inc. I work in the RF scanner department.   I'm not sure if all scanners work this way, but for ours, each bar code must start and end with an asteric.   The scanner reads the asteric at the beginning and the end and knows the number of importance is between the two.   Not to dismiss the possibilities, but just thought it might add some light to the topic.

As for the www theory...I will say that before the world wide web, there has never been such a resource that unites peoples of all walks of life, language, money etc.   Its almost reminicent of Babylon days when God used language as the barrier to slow mans wickedness down.   Also of interest, is that most cashless transactions now make use of the www.  When you swipe your card at the gas station, the www in most cases is used to transfer that data.....even though most do not know this.   So much for not making purchases online eh?

I don't know about the www=666 thing, but its interesting to ponder.  

Rev 13:17  And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

The condition used to inforce the mark...(also note how it speaks of the mark, the name of the beast, OR the number of HIS name)

Rev 13:18  Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.


If its a required mark (or stake-in, as the greek terms it) or name on the right hand or forehead that is needed for the purpose of buying of selling, beware!   It is also mentioned that those who bear this mark will also worship the beast...all important clues for those who will face it.




There is loads of info in these two verses, yet the its still uncertain what it is the mid tribbers will actually be dealing with...... LOL    


Just kidding just kidding twobombs!!!!!   Yes that was below the belt, but you know I love you bro!


Grace and Peace!

[jesusavedme]

2nd Timothy, let me add this if you will.  The microchip founder Carl Saunders, of whom many have attempted in vain to discredit, says that the biochip consists of three compartments made up of 6 bits each.  I thought that that was interesting.  Do you think that the Rapture is a saved-based event or a reward-based event?  Certain parables of Jesus and His words to some of the churches in the Book of Revelation make me think that perhaps the Rapture is works-based.  Nothing to do with salvation though.  What do you think?

[2nd Timothy]

2nd Timothy, let me add this if you will.  The microchip founder Carl Saunders, of whom many have attempted in vain to discredit, says that the biochip consists of three compartments made up of 6 bits each.  I thought that that was interesting.  Do you think that the Rapture is a saved-based event or a reward-based event?  Certain parables of Jesus and His words to some of the churches in the Book of Revelation make me think that perhaps the Rapture is works-based.  Nothing to do with salvation though.  What do you think?

Very briefly...

the info on Saunders is definitely brow rasing!   Would love to hear more.

As for works based rapture, I do not believe that.   I believe that all spirit indwelled believers will be taken at that time.   I think I know which verses you are refering to, but we can get into those later this week when I get more time.

Grace and Peace!

[twobombs]

Just curious to know if you guys were aware that the Universal Product Code contains 666?  Notice that there are three bars, one on the left, one on the right, and one in the centre that are not showing their numerical value.  Take a guess at why!  Also, the Word Wide Web is encoded also.  In Hebrew, W's number value is 6.  www.com = 666.com  Also, notice the phrase WORLD-WIDE WEB, sounds like a synonym for the New World Order!  The antichrist will excercise power over all nations and kindreds and perhaps the internet is likewise a mechanism in this scam.  Not trying to sound depressing, just realistic.  What do you guys think?

There is loads of info in these two verses, yet the its still uncertain what it is the mid tribbers will actually be dealing with...... LOL    


Just kidding just kidding twobombs!!!!!   Yes that was below the belt, but you know I love you bro!

Grace and Peace!

We all have come too far on this forum to stumble on those type of puny details. Mind you; 3.5 years is a relative short timeframe to meddle about.

[Rookieupgrade1]

I agree that this tech. is a HUGE invasion of privacy but it seems to me that mass implimentation is 1 Too expensive and 2 the possibility for theft/duplication it too high.

Wouldn't take long for the "chip" to be replicated by a techie. I know the military has programable chips for ID cards but have to have 3 other forms of ID to go along with it. You still need the photo ID cause what would stop someone from takeing youe card and accessing confidential info posing as the user.

An implated chip can be stolen as well by the theif with a strong stomach and no reguard for human life.

How long till there are chips available black market so people can "fake" it. You could be anyone you want.....for a price.

I agree that it does point tward the "mark" and may be a predicessor but I think there are too many flaws. Its not a definate.

Now when the technology gets to the point of being interactive with the host and can verify DNA on a recurring basis to verify the "carrier" and that they are indeed alive.....

I'll get concerned.