B/W Abortions?

[Symphony]

I was posed this very interesting question today.  I had not ever thought of this before:


Statistically, which do you suppose have more abortions, blacks, or whites?  Or do you think statistically, once you get up into the thousands of occurances, there would be any real difference?

If you think there is a difference in the number, why?  

[DovesWings]

Well, according to a board I went to to check on the stastics, whites have more abortions.  
Here's the link: http://www.abortiontv.com/AbortionStatistics.htm#Age%20Group%20&%20Race

I guess that would sum it up quite well.  

[LadyKay4JC]

Yup.... that's what I was going to guess, too...

[Symphony]

Hmm, thank you Dove.

Wow, whites almost double the number of abortions!


Why would that be?  Economics--b/c more whites could afford them?

Why would almost twice as many whites have abortions?

[DovesWings]

I know...it's pretty sad for any abortion first off.

I can't even begin to respond w/o sounding judgemental.  
I know for me, with my experience, and I'm white, that I had everybody but my aunt, dad and cousin tell me to get an abortion b/c I was throwing my life away.  I did not care...my "life" as they saw it was not as important as the new life that was forming inside of me.
My dad even rec'd a phone call from his cousin freaking out that he was actually let ME decide on what to do w/ this "mess"...didn't he know how important MY education was and what this "problem" would do to my life?  My dad hung up on him.  

[Reba]

In reading the stats  i do not see %..
in the  chart about  race is  the chart base on the number of actual abortions. or percentage per population.

like this...

  there are 50 purple people   10 have abortions  

 
 there are 25  green people   8  have abortions    


 

[His_child]

Could it be that more more whites have abortions than blacks be partially due to the fact that Margaret Sanger (founder of so-called Planned Parenthood) was a racist?

[JudgeNot]

Could it be that more more whites have abortions than blacks be partially due to the fact that Margaret Sanger (founder of so-called Planned Parenthood) was a racist?

Or that to "legally" kill a baby you have to pay the executioner and "honkeys" are more apt to have the 'blood money'

[His_child]

Could it be that more more whites have abortions than blacks be partially due to the fact that Margaret Sanger (founder of so-called Planned Parenthood) was a racist?

Or that to "legally" kill a baby you have to pay the executioner and "honkeys" are more apt to have the 'blood money'

If I remember correctly, the state will pay for an abortion for a woman who can not afford one.
So finances probably don't have anything to do with it really.

[ebia]

I'm not sure that Reba's post was clear, so I'll try:

That table doesn't tell you whether or not blacks are more likely to have abortions that whites.

It tells you, for example, that in 1994, 34.6% of abortions were performed on black people, but without knowing the proportion of black people in the population that is meaningless.

[ollie]

Hmm, thank you Dove.

Wow, whites almost double the number of abortions!


Why would that be?  Economics--b/c more whites could afford them?

Why would almost twice as many whites have abortions?

"Why would almost twice as many whites have abortions?"

The population of America is what 270 million people? Are about 30 million of African American ancestry?
Does that answer the question?

****Statistics in next reply.

[ollie]

****Population of the United States by Race and Hispanic/Latino Origin, Census 2000 and July 1, 2002
Race and Hispanic/Latino origin July 1, 2002,
population Percent of
population Census 2000,
population Percent of
population
Total Population 288,368,698 100.0%, 281,421,906 100.0%
Single race        
  White 232,646,619 80.7%, 211,460,626 75.1%
  Black or African American 36,746,012 12.7%, 34,658,190 12.3%
  American Indian and Alaska Native 2,752,158 1.0%, 2,475,956 0.9%
  Asian 11,559,027 4.0%, 10,242,998 3.6%
  Native Hawaiian and other Pacific Islander 484,314 0.2%, 398,835 0.1%
Two or more races n.a. 1.5% 6,826,228 2.4%
Some other race n.a. n.a.   15,359,073 5.5%
Hispanic or Latino 38,761,370 13.4%, 35,305,818 12.5%

NOTE: Percentages add up to more than 100% because Hispanics may be of any race and are therefore counted under more than one category.
Source: U.S. Census Bureau, Cenus 2000 Brief, March 2001, and National Population Estimates, June 18, 2003.

[Symphony]

I'm going to have to come back to this and look at yours, Ollie.  Reba poses a good question--am I interpreting the data correctly?  I will have to go back and look at that table again.

But I thought it reflected a significantly higher number of abortions among whites.

But then, that does raise the question--compared with the white population only, or the whole population?

I guess the significant statistic might be one that reflects the proportion of that particular race.

I.e., do whites typically abort more readily than, say, blacks?

If so, if it is significantly more, why??

And, even if we don't have statistics reflecting that, why would we tend to suspect that, or predict that, anyway?

JN implies an economic reason, which is what I was thinking.  BTW, is that how you spell, "honkey"?   Hmmm.  Rhymes with "donkey".  


     

[JudgeNot]

JN implies an economic reason, which is what I was thinking.  BTW, is that how you spell, "honkey"?  Hmmm.  Rhymes with "donkey".  

OK, I'm embarrassed.    
How do you spell it???  Can derogatory slang be misspelled?  

Last week I heard a pro-infanticide activist lamenting on the radio:  “Some women have to drive 40 miles for an abortion!”  
Not only do they want death on demand, they want it delivered?  

Ollie’s stats do bring things concerning this thread into a different light.  My ‘economic’ theory certainly doesn’t hold water.  

[Symphony]

Maybe I'm missing it here somewhere.


All I'm wondering here is, if you have the total number of abortions in this country, that would represent a certain percentage, if you compared it to, say, the total pop'n, which is 288m.

Then, according to Ollie's stats above, if I'm reading them right, of the total pop'n of 288m, blacks represent 36.8m, or roughly 12.8 percent of the total pop'n.

Therefore, it would seem that a safe assumption would be that, assuming you have a large enough sample--say 1000 expectant women(if that's a large enough sample)--who all get abortions, statistically roughly 128 of those "should" be black women.  Would that be a safe or accurate expectation?

But is that the case?  If blacks represent 12.8 percent of our total pop'n, shouldn't they also typically represent 12.8 percent of the class of abortions?  Do they, or don't they?  If not why not?  More?  Less?

And, abortions aren't that expensive, anyway, are they--and many already are funded by social services, etc., so economics here would not be an issue?

Maybe I'm missing something here.