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« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2004, 06:32:04 PM »

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You still seem to want to give them the credit instead of God. Jesus said; "I can do nothing without my Father."  Undertsanding Jesus's words comes from the Holy Spirit, not a detached analysis of history.

Based on this thread alone, Heidi, there are several who have a different idea of what the words of Jesus mean.  Obviously, you have the correct understanding, so that makes the others who also claim the same basis as either liars, or the Holy Spirit actually is giving many individual revelations today.

To determine if the Holy Spirit is active one must analyse history. The Holy Spirit, as per Scripture, those words of Jesus in fact, said that He would send the Comforter. He said this to the Apostles directly. He also gave them very explicit instructions to teach and instruct this Truth that they received from God.  He also stated that He would abide with them until the end. He established His Church, His Body, here on earth by the Apostles, and it is ONLY within this Body, The CHURCH that the Holy Spirit operates (indwelling).   Individuals acquire the Holy Spirit by Baptism into His Church and being annointed with Oil - chrismation.
The test to see if Christ, via the Holy Spirit has remained with His Church is to see where the original deposit of faith still remains intact as it was once given for all, to all.
If you cannot find anywhere in the world today that teaches as the apostles received, then the Holy Spirit failed and what you believe is a waste of time.

I can assuredly attest that many of the personal opinions that are very prevelent on this board are not the work of the Holy Spirit.  Christ Body has never been divided, it has never been unholy, it is and always has been ONE.  The TRUTH is CHRIST, not the Bible which is simply a partial recorded history of His interaction with man.

Further, the Bible is quite clear that Revelation is never given to individuals, as protestants have proven the point.  Not only that but that what has been given is not for personal interpretation, see II Pet 1:20.  Those are some of those clear words of Jesus, Heidi.  Based on your own words, these must be some that God does not want you to hear.

I would gladly entertain any scripture references that you might have which shows that there are many faiths, many ways to Christ, in opposition of His stated words.

   

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« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2004, 07:32:57 PM »

Sojourner,

Take it to debate please, especially if you are going to make it a denomination versus denomination thing.

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« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2004, 07:38:49 PM »

I  believe!  Smiley
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« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2004, 09:10:46 PM »

Blackeyedpeas,

Would be glad to, however, I don't think Heidi wants to as she has failed to reply several times.

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« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2004, 10:57:47 PM »

Sojourner, do you understand what Jesus means by, "You diligently study the Scriptures because you think that by them, you possess eternal life."?
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« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2004, 05:09:50 AM »

I think what he is trying to say is, will those who don’t believe in the Admin’s version of Christianity be banned, to put it bluntly.

Tibby do you believe this:

You must believe in salvation by grace alone, and that salvation is immediate and eternal upon acceptance of Jesus as a one-time sacrifice for your sins, and not obtained through any works, sacraments, traditions or merits of our own.

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THINGS THAT DIFFER By C.R. Stam
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« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2004, 05:26:13 PM »

I think what he is trying to say is, will those who don’t believe in the Admin’s version of Christianity be banned, to put it bluntly.

Tibby do you believe this:

You must believe in salvation by grace alone, and that salvation is immediate and eternal upon acceptance of Jesus as a one-time sacrifice for your sins, and not obtained through any works, sacraments, traditions or merits of our own.

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I agree 100%

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For when we were yet without strength, in due time CHRIST DIED FOR THE UNGODLY"
(Romans 5:6).

"And you, being dead in your sins... hath He quickened together with him, HAVING FORGIVEN YOU ALL TRESPASSES"
(Colossians 2:13).

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« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2004, 05:49:12 AM »

I think what he is trying to say is, will those who don’t believe in the Admin’s version of Christianity be banned, to put it bluntly.

Tibby do you believe this:

You must believe in salvation by grace alone, and that salvation is immediate and eternal upon acceptance of Jesus as a one-time sacrifice for your sins, and not obtained through any works, sacraments, traditions or merits of our own.

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Tibby do you believe this:

You must believe in salvation by grace alone, and that salvation is immediate and eternal upon acceptance of Jesus as a one-time sacrifice for your sins, and not obtained through any works, sacraments, traditions or merits of our own.
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« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2004, 09:49:35 AM »

Dummy me i thought  all of scripture was Jesus..

"All of Scripture are the WORDS of the WORD of God [Jesus Christ] through the Holy Spirit" (2 Tim. 3:16). Scripture is sufficient for all our needs and a doctrinal statement solidly grounded in Scripture is unobjectionable.
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