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« Reply #30 on: May 01, 2004, 11:01:41 PM »

We do have a JAIL thread here  SHEESH !

Some one call the donut shop....
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« Reply #31 on: May 01, 2004, 11:29:42 PM »

We know all about Chick Publications. They have been exposed numerous times for there lies and slander. If you are ever in a situation where you need to make a Priest laugh, then the knowledge you gained from Jack Chic might come on handy. If you want some Anti-Catholic Recourses, I would go with some more credible sources.  PM Petro, he can give you plenty of good sources for the errors in Catholic Doctrine. He has plenty of good info for you.

Actually, what you have posted just now, dissed my beliefs, calling it "slander." Lay off. Not only thiat, it's true. I bet no one has even read that stuff. Historically it is all true. The catholic religion has lied for a long time, The Pope means nothing well.
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« Reply #32 on: May 02, 2004, 04:31:34 AM »

I am very sorry for offending you. It was never my intention to attack you beliefs. I only wanted to note that Jack Chick isn’t the most credible source for such beliefs. Please don't take it the wrong way. I read that tract. In fact, I used to own that specific tract in print. Lies. Allah is based on the same God in Judeo-Christian beliefs. Mohammad was tough the Jewish mythos as a child. Now, Jack’s seems to have a good grasp of the religion of the ancient tribal peoples of the Middle-East, however, that has nothing to do with Islam. Anymore then the beliefs of the ancient European effects Christianity. He never received any backing when he first founded Islam. The  early Muslims where persecuted. The fact that they used “Allah” in reference to their Early Gods have nothing to do with the use of Allah as their single God now. Allah is the literal translation of God. We in the West use the term to differentiate between the Judeo-Christian God and the Muslin God, but to a Native speaker, Allah is just “God.” I hope you see what I am saying, Jack Chick’s logic is flawed in several areas. On top of that, if you handed that tract to a Muslim, he would either be offended by it, or laugh at it. His whole method of argument is to aggressive. Great propaganda for those on his side, but it would never work to persuade the audience he is writing against.

Now, what where you saying about The catholic religion lying for a long time, and the Pope meaning nothing well? Why don’t you PM me with more on that, as to not spam the board with more catholic debate. We can finish it up thru PM.
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« Reply #33 on: May 02, 2004, 11:28:41 AM »

This Site: http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0042/0042_01.asp

shows what you need to know.
The fastest way for a new poster to loose all credibility - quote Jack Chick.

Who is Jack Chick?  

Ebia One thing I do know is, if you dont like him, he must be good. Do you know if he has a web-site?
I DONT KNOW JACK CHICK or is it jack sh#@&* Grin

You need some soap for your mouth. Your Bad
i know that was pushing it . sorry Shocked
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« Reply #34 on: May 02, 2004, 03:13:36 PM »

I don't even know who Jack Chick is. I just found the site, and it was toward my beliefs, and was acurate.
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« Reply #35 on: May 02, 2004, 05:43:08 PM »

I don't even know who Jack Chick is. I just found the site, and it was toward my beliefs, and was acurate.
It might agree with your beliefs, but it certainly isn't accurate.
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« Reply #36 on: May 02, 2004, 09:29:31 PM »

is this where you anti- catholics learn about catholics?

Is a4u jack chick? Grin Grin Grin

this is a quate from his sight

Does Jack Chick hate Catholics?
Quite the opposite. In the mid-1970's, when he first began to understand what Roman Catholicism really teaches, he knew it was unscriptural. He also knew that to speak out against it would be unpopular and hurt his publishing company.

After much prayer, he made the decision that, no matter what it cost him personally, he would publish the truth that Roman Catholicism is not Christian. He did it because he loves Catholics and wants them to be saved through faith in Jesus, not trusting in religious liturgy and sacraments. He paid a price for that decision in many ways, as priests and nuns entered Christian bookstores screaming and making a scene, demanding that the store owner not stock Chick tracts. Some "Christian" media have even refused to accept advertising from Chick Publications, fearing any "controversy" that might hurt their cash flow.

But God has been faithful (as He always is) and has protected Chick Publications over the years. Jack Chick has made it clear that if he had it to do over again, he wouldn't change a thing. The letters from so many Catholics who have read Chick's anti-Catholic material and have gotten saved carry one theme: "Thank you for loving us enough to tell us the truth!" Those precious people make it all worthwhile.
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« Reply #37 on: May 02, 2004, 11:18:29 PM »

Jesus said, "No one comes to the Father except through me." The Muslims go through Mohammed which means they are not worshiping the true God but a false one. Therefore, The Christian God is NOT the same as the Muslims god. We can only access the true Father from belief that Christ is God's Son. Knowing Christ is how we know God! Jesus said; "Now this is eternal life; that you know the only true God and Jesus Christ whom He sent." Virtually everyone knows ABOUT Christ but few know Him personally. He said; "Narrow is the road that leads to life and only a few find it."
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« Reply #38 on: May 03, 2004, 01:11:38 AM »

Jesus said, "No one comes to the Father except through me." The Muslims go through Mohammed which means they are not worshiping the true God but a false one.
1. This isn't true.  Mohammed is a prophet in the Muslim's eyes, not a savior.  They go straight to God for their salvation.

2. Their failure to recognise Christ could be indicative that they worship a different God, or it could be indicative that they worship the same God but are badly mistaken about at least one aspect of him.   Since most of what they know about God is true, the latter seems a much more reasonable supposition.

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If this were the whole story, Israel and the prophets could never have accessed the Father.  

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« Reply #39 on: May 03, 2004, 05:24:04 AM »

Jesus said, "No one comes to the Father except through me." The Muslims go through Mohammed which means they are not worshiping the true God but a false one.
1. This isn't true.  Mohammed is a prophet in the Muslim's eyes, not a savior.  They go straight to God for their salvation.

2. Their failure to recognise Christ could be indicative that they worship a different God, or it could be indicative that they worship the same God but are badly mistaken about at least one aspect of him.   Since most of what they know about God is true, the latter seems a much more reasonable supposition.

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If this were the whole story, Israel and the prophets could never have accessed the Father.  



ebia, you need a lot of help.

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« Reply #40 on: May 03, 2004, 06:14:26 AM »


ebia, you need a lot of help.

We all do.
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« Reply #41 on: May 03, 2004, 11:28:05 AM »

ebia-
You seem very content in your world.
It must be nice to think that no one needs Christ to obtain Salvation.

Jesus said that He is the way, not a way.
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« Reply #42 on: May 03, 2004, 04:28:40 PM »

ebia-
You seem very content in your world.
It must be nice to think that no one needs Christ to obtain Salvation.

Jesus said that He is the way, not a way.


What did Ebia say that doesn't match up with that statement?
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