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« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2020, 11:15:59 AM »

Dan, I can also see you confusing a lot of new Christians with your so called debate.
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« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2020, 01:54:00 PM »

Hi and I like to hear what anyone else and could have a better interpretation than I !!

 And I do not see anyone else posting anything !!

I am on several other  web sites and was  denied to post anything because I DID NOT BELIEVE IN  WATER  BAPTISM !!

 I have bringing subjects not seen at all , sorry if that seems to offend you !!

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« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2020, 10:18:24 AM »

There is a difference in searching to insure that we have the correct word of God and that of debating.

To remove all doubt about Baptism in water and the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. In Mathew chapter 3 we see where Jesus was Baptized both by water and has he came out of the water was then blessed by God with the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.

Mat 3:1  In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea, 
Mat 3:2  And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. 
Mat 3:3  For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight. 
Mat 3:4  And the same John had his raiment of camel's hair, and a leathern girdle about his loins; and his meat was locusts and wild honey. 
Mat 3:5  Then went out to him Jerusalem, and all Judaea, and all the region round about Jordan, 
Mat 3:6  And were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins. 
Mat 3:7  But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? 
Mat 3:8  Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance: 
Mat 3:9  And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. 
Mat 3:10  And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 
Mat 3:11  I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: 
Mat 3:12  Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire. 
Mat 3:13  Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him. 
Mat 3:14  But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? 
Mat 3:15  And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him. 
Mat 3:16  And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 
Mat 3:17  And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

The Baptism of the Holy Spirit cannot be done by man but by God alone. Man can only Baptize by water. We see in the following verses where Jesus tells his Apostles to Baptize in his name.

Mat 28:18  And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. 
Mat 28:19  Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 
Mat 28:20  Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

We are told to follow in His footsteps so as He was Baptized with water so should we also.

1Pe 2:21  For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:

As for the reading of this in the Greek language... The Greek word for Baptism whether it was with water or with that of the Holy Spirit it is the same. The difference is that only one of them actually saves as we see spoken of in (Eph 4:5  One Lord, one faith, one baptism) the other of which is the Baptism in water is only a public declaration of faith and obedience, the following in His steps.
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« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2021, 03:17:44 PM »

There is a difference in searching to insure that we have the correct word of God and that of debating.

To remove all doubt about Baptism in water and the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. In Mathew chapter 3 we see where Jesus was Baptized both by water and has he came out of the water was then blessed by God with the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.

Mat 3:1  In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea, 
Mat 3:2  And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. 
Mat 3:3  For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight. 
Mat 3:4  And the same John had his raiment of camel's hair, and a leathern girdle about his loins; and his meat was locusts and wild honey. 
Mat 3:5  Then went out to him Jerusalem, and all Judaea, and all the region round about Jordan, 
Mat 3:6  And were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins. 
Mat 3:7  But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? 
Mat 3:8  Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance: 
Mat 3:9  And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. 
Mat 3:10  And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 
Mat 3:11  I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: 
Mat 3:12  Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire. 
Mat 3:13  Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him. 
Mat 3:14  But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? 
Mat 3:15  And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him. 
Mat 3:16  And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 
Mat 3:17  And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

The Baptism of the Holy Spirit cannot be done by man but by God alone. Man can only Baptize by water. We see in the following verses where Jesus tells his Apostles to Baptize in his name.

Mat 28:18  And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. 
Mat 28:19  Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 
Mat 28:20  Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

We are told to follow in His footsteps so as He was Baptized with water so should we also.

1Pe 2:21  For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:

As for the reading of this in the Greek language... The Greek word for Baptism whether it was with water or with that of the Holy Spirit it is the same. The difference is that only one of them actually saves as we see spoken of in (Eph 4:5  One Lord, one faith, one baptism) the other of which is the Baptism in water is only a public declaration of faith and obedience, the following in His steps.



And here is my last reply as to  1 Cor 1:15 .

Verse 15 begins with Lest   ANYONE /  UN  is a Greek  Disjunctive Particle , Negative and anyone can  google it and see what a  Disjunctive  Particle , Negative means and look up  G3361 and it means Not , Neither , and no one can than say that I had  baptized for  my  NAME .

Just check the  Greek text as I did and you will  see the Greek  word  UN .

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