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« on: April 16, 2012, 12:38:06 PM »


Christians believe the Word (the Logos) is the Second Person of the Triune Godhead,
and that it was this Logos who came to earth and became flesh (Jesus Christ).

“… the Word was God … and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us” (John 1:1-14).
“God was manifested in the flesh” (1 Timothy 3:16).
“That Holy One who is to be born will be called the Son of God” (Luke 1:35).
But, how could GOD actually be the Son of someone … even the Son of God?
This drove me crazy for a while, because I had forgotten some of this …


Matthew 1:18-23
“… After His mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with
child of the Holy Spirit. … an angel of the Lord (Gabriel) appeared to him (Joseph) in a dream, saying,
‘… that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit.’ … Behold, the virgin shall be with child,
and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel, which is translated, ‘God with us’. ”

Luke 1:26-35
“… the angel Gabriel was sent by God … to a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph …
‘… And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a Son’ … Then Mary said to the angel,
‘How can this be, since I do not know a man?’ And the angel answered and said to her,
‘The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Highest will overshadow you;
therefore, also, that Holy One who is to be born will be called the Son of God.’ ”

Several Scripture verses tell us that Jesus never sinned, that He was without sin.
This sinless human called “Jesus” actually had some so-called “parents”.
His mother was Mary, who had man's sin nature.
His “father” was the Holy Spirit (i.e. God), who did NOT have man's sin nature.
So, this is why Jesus’ name/title “Son of God” is NOT so crazy after all.
Jesus “father” really was God ... technically, He was God's Son, He really WAS the Son of God.

Surely, this is the ONLY time that this has ever happened; that’s why God calls Jesus His “ONLY-begotten” Son. This is what I believe, until someone proves me wrong.

And this is why the sin nature is carried in man's sperm, and not in anyone’s blood.
Question … Did the Holy Spirit provide sperm (or did He perform a creative miracle) in Mary’s womb?
God put curses on everyone involved with the Fall of Man: on Satan, on Adam, on Eve (and on the earth).
Question … Why didn’t God mention the tainting of the male sperm?

God’s sinless human was necessary
Scripture reveals the disasterous situation …
sin  ==>  spiritual death  ==>  separation from God  ==>  spiritual blindness/deafness.
Because of his sin, man is hopelessly lost and helpless to save himself.
But, God devised a plan to save mankind … and this is the very beginning of God’s grace.
A sinless human, the Son of God Himself, would die in man’s place!
God declared that this would satisfy Him.
And this is the foundation of His “new covenant” … the other part is for man to believe it.
No more animals shedding their blood … the Son of God would shed HIS blood.
The Son of God Himself would serve as the final, ultimate, and perfectly sinless sacrificial Lamb.
“The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world (in general)!” (John 1:29).
The sinless One would take the place of all of the condemned sinners.
He would be our Substitute, thus opening the door to heaven to everyone who can/will believe.
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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2012, 04:35:58 PM »

Amen! - Thanks For Sharing!
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« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2012, 08:04:35 AM »

Let us keep in mind:

Joh 3:6  That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Joh 6:63  It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Jas 1:15  Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

There is a difference between that which is flesh and that which is spirit. Is man's sin nature contained in the flesh or revealed through the deeds of the spirit?
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Joh 9:4  I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work.
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Joh 3:6  That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Joh 6:63  It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
Jas 1:15  Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

There is a difference between that which is flesh and that which is spirit.
Is man's sin nature contained in the flesh or revealed through the deeds of the spirit?

IMO, man's sin nature is contained in the flesh, and is revealed through
the deeds of the soul, which comprises mind(intellect), will, and emotions.

IMO, the born-again Christian's spirit contains the Holy Spirit,
and that's why no demon can be in there, i.e. he/she cannot be demon-possessed.
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« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2012, 10:48:20 AM »

I see it the opposite. Sin is of a sinful nature, that which is spiritual as the human nature is of the spirit not that which is physical. Therefore it is our spirit that is dead and when in Christ it is our spirit that is renewed and will see eternal life. Sin may be consummated through the physical but it comes from that which is of the spirit. A sin must come from a spiritual intent and motive to act against a spiritual law.

It is this reason that Jesus spoke of the difference between that which is physical and that which is spiritual. God judges strictly by the motives of the spirit. If the flesh does evil, but the spirit repents, God will not condemn. If the flesh does something good, but from fleshy motives, God will not approve. All that is worthy of God must come straight from a regenerate heart, from a reborn spirit which Jesus Himself purifies through the Holy Spirit. This is the reason that we are to truly worship Him in spirit and in truth.

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