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« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2011, 10:16:16 AM »

"only 7 percent of the world's Muslims are political radicals and that the majority support democracy."

This is such propaganda!!  And to call her "sister" infuriates me!  My biggest hope is that when we get Obama out of the White House, where he has no right to be in the first place, that they will clear OUR govenment of ALL muslims!  We don't want a "Perfect Islamic State", let alone imagining one!

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« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2011, 11:07:49 AM »

UM? - I wonder why many people believe that Obama is a Muslim.

(Small Print:  I believe he is.)
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« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2011, 11:14:17 AM »

"only 7 percent of the world's Muslims are political radicals and that the majority support democracy."

This is such propaganda!!  And to call her "sister" infuriates me!  My biggest hope is that when we get Obama out of the White House, where he has no right to be in the first place, that they will clear OUR govenment of ALL muslims!  We don't want a "Perfect Islamic State", let alone imagining one!



I agree completely. Something like this would dissolve the Union. Needless to say, the vast majority would not tolerate it and would fight to the death to prevent it.
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« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2011, 09:54:35 AM »

Militant Muslim Group Plans to Protest Royal Wedding
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LONDON -- A militant Muslim group has sought police permission to demonstrate on the day of the royal wedding of Prince William and Kate Middleton with the stated aim of disrupting the event, The (London) Times reported Tuesday.

Scotland Yard said that it had also received indications from the far-right English Defense League that, if Muslims Against Crusades held a protest, it would mount a counter-demonstration.

Police will not allow either group to protest inside the security zone, which covers Westminster Abbey and the processional route. But they have no powers to ban a stationary protest elsewhere in central London.

The Muslim group, an offshoot of the banned al Muhajiroun organization, says that it is planning a "forceful demonstration." Its website carries a picture of a burning Union Jack and pictures of William and other members of the royal family captioned "enemies to Allah."

Sir Paul Stephenson, the Metropolitan Police Commissioner, has ordered tough action to stamp out disorder on the day of the wedding.

Lynne Owens, an assistant commissioner, said, "If anybody comes to London on the day of the royal wedding intending to commit criminal acts, we will act quickly, robustly and decisively."

The Metropolitan Police will have 5,000 officers on wedding duty. In addition to the threat from extremist demonstrators, Scotland Yard is also making plans to cope with potential public order issues from anarchist groups, the protection of 80 visiting VIPs and any threat from individuals stalking the royal family.

William and Kate will tie the knot at Westminster Abbey on April 29 in a ceremony to be broadcast live around the world.

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Muslims Demonstrate at Tennessee Capitol In Support of Sharia (Islamic Law) and Terror Funding
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They should be protesting against the sharia (Islamic law.) They came to America to get away from the oppressive and brutal system of governance, did they not? Or did they come to impose it?

Several hundred Muslims thronged the state Capitol on Tuesday in protest of legislation that they say takes aim at their religious beliefs, calling on the bill to be defeated.

Muslims from across the state — many wearing traditional skullcaps and headscarves — packed a committee room and corridors to hear testimony on a bill that supporters say would help Tennessee stop terrorist plots but opponents believe singles out Muslims who adhere to Islamic law.

They urged lawmakers to withdraw the bill, or at least to delay it until it can be rewritten so that groups labeled as terrorist organizations can protest the designation before they are forced to shut down.

“These are issues for any group,” said Nadeem Siddiqi, a native Knoxville resident who traveled to Nashville to speak against the bill. “The United States of America is known for its freedoms, known for due process, known for a fair system, and to be able to have a few individuals in a state of panic create this kind of risk to civil society is just inappropriate.”

Incredible that they can equate American freedom with the brutal oppression of sharia.

The gathering, which was put together by mosques and Muslim civic groups around the state, comes in response to legislation that originally criticized Shariah, the basic set of Muslim religious laws governing everything from warfare and criminal punishments to prayer preparations and family matters.

The first version of the bill, which was written by an Arizona organization critical of Islam, labeled Shariah “a legal-political-military doctrine and system” that requires its followers to support the overthrow of the United States government. Several Muslims who turned out Tuesday said that is a distortion.

“People have this idea that Shariah is just chopping people’s hands, but Shariah is a way of life for us,” said Arshia Shah, a lawyer originally from Britain who now lives in Sparta and came to the Capitol with her husband and two daughters. “It’s prayer. It’s how we deal with our spouses. And to tell people that they can’t practice this — that they’re doing something wrong — is a great concern.”

The bill has since been amended to remove all references to Shariah and Islam.

What is left is legislation, known formally as the Material Support to Designated Entities Act, that would let the governor and the state attorney general label groups as terrorist organizations.

Once designated, a group’s financial assets could be frozen and its contributors could face criminal penalties.

The bill’s sponsors, House Speaker Pro Tempore Judd Matheny, R-Tullahoma, and state Sen. Bill Ketron, R-Murfreesboro, say the bill gives Tennessee law enforcement agencies the ability to disrupt terrorist plots. They also say it could be used to disrupt street gangs and neo-Nazi groups, as well as terrorist organizations.

“I think it’s a good bill,” Ketron said. “They say it’s duplicative because it mirrors the Patriot Act on the federal level, but local law enforcement see and hear what’s going on locally.”

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Muslim organizations have been opposed to the legislation from the outset, but Tuesday was the first time they turned out in large numbers, drawing a crowd that rivaled those brought to the Capitol by labor and teachers organizations earlier this session.

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« Reply #20 on: April 21, 2011, 03:27:03 PM »

Nice article HisDaughter. Our Oklahoma attempt to ban Sharia law was just recently stalled in some way - I think by the courts.
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« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2011, 09:59:25 AM »

Jihad Watch
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Michigan: Qur'an-burning Pastor Jones jailed over planned mosque protest
Jailed for planning a protest? How was that even possible in America? For refusing to pay a "peace bond"? Wouldn't the responsibility for any disturbance be upon those who decided to react to whatever Jones was doing by causing the disturbance? Pamela Geller says it here: "The city of Dearborn's position is that Muslims are so violent and irrational that they won't be able to control themselves if Jones holds a protest? And he has to pay for damages? Why wouldn't the marauding Muslim hordes pay the damages if they are doing the damage? And if they get violent, why aren't they in jail?"

She also points out the inconsistency, here: "Terry Jones was sent to jail in Michigan over a planned protest outside the largest Islamic Center in the U.S. I have seen the most vile displays of subversion, anti-Americanism, Jew-hatred and violence at anti-war rallies during the Bush years. No one said boo. It's free speech. The KKK marches, no one says boo, it's free speech. Monsters protest military funerals, it's free speech. Nazis in Skokie? A-OK. But Islamic jihadis launch the most brutal and bloody attack on America on September 11, 2001, and we haven't stopped apologizing. And now we have turned over our soul, the heart of our freedom."

More on this story. "Pastor Is Jailed in Michigan Over Planned March at Mosque," from the Associated Press, April 22 (thanks to Pamela Geller):

DEARBORN, Mich. (AP) — A Florida pastor at the center of a Koran-burning controversy was jailed briefly for refusing to pay what the authorities called a “peace bond” for a planned demonstration outside a mosque.
The pastor, Terry Jones, whose remarks against Muslims have inflamed anti-Western sentiment in Afghanistan, said he refused to pay the $1 bond because doing so would violate his freedom of speech. He was released from jail hours later after paying the $1....

The bond also prohibited Mr. Jones from going to the mosque or the adjacent property for three years.

Robert Sedler, a constitutional law professor at Wayne State University, said the United States Supreme Court has ruled that it is the police’s job to protect speakers at such events and said it is unconstitutional to require protesters to post a bond for police protection.

A Koran burning in March at Mr. Jones’s church in Gainesville, Fla., caused protests in Afghanistan that killed more than a dozen people. The Wayne County prosecutor, Kym Worthy, said fears that Mr. Jones could incite violent counterprotests led them to court.

Mr. Jones represented himself and told the jury that the mosque, one of the largest in the country, was chosen because his protest was against “a radical element of Islam.”

“All we want to do is walk, demonstrate, protest on an area that already belongs to you, to the city,” he said. “We are not accusing this mosque. We are not accusing the people of Dearborn. We are not accusing all Muslims.”
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Michigan: Qur'an-burning Pastor Jones jailed over planned mosque protest
Jailed for planning a protest? How was that even possible in America? For refusing to pay a "peace bond"? Wouldn't the responsibility for any disturbance be upon those who decided to react to whatever Jones was doing by causing the disturbance? Pamela Geller says it here: "The city of Dearborn's position is that Muslims are so violent and irrational that they won't be able to control themselves if Jones holds a protest? And he has to pay for damages? Why wouldn't the marauding Muslim hordes pay the damages if they are doing the damage? And if they get violent, why aren't they in jail?"

I don't like what this guy does to inflame things, but this reeks of being illegal and Unconstitutional.
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« Reply #23 on: April 23, 2011, 01:27:58 PM »

I don't like what this guy does to inflame things, but this reeks of being illegal and Unconstitutional.

I agree completely. This is what we are looking at though, the appeasement of all those that are evil and the persecution of those that are within the boundaries of current laws.
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Islamists on Welfare: Paid to Plot the West's Demise
Islamist Watch - April 4,2011

In 2008, the Toronto Sun reported that "hundreds of [Greater Toronto Area] Muslim men in polygamous marriages — some with a harem of wives — are receiving welfare and social benefits for each of their spouses, thanks to the city and province, Muslim leaders say."

"Polygamy is a regular part of life for many Muslims," Canadian Society of Muslims president Mumtaz Ali declared bluntly. "Ontario recognizes religious marriages for Muslims and others."

Government officials quickly denied the Muslim leader's claims about immigration law and social benefits regulations. Only one public servant seemed sufficiently concerned. "This is wrong," said city councilor Rob Ford. "They should put a stop to this immediately."

Instead, welfare abuse by Muslims appears to have metastasized across the Western world. Almost three years later, news stories about radical Muslims — often immigrants — engaged in social benefits scams emerge regularly from Europe, Canada, and Australia. Even when they are not involved in fraud, Muslims frequently are overrepresented on welfare rolls, compared with other communities. The statistics from around the globe are jaw-dropping, especially in economically uncertain times.

According to one 2007 source, immigration, of which Muslims comprise a significant part, "costs Sweden at least 40 to 50 billion Swedish kroner [approximately $7 billion] every year … and has greatly contributed to bringing the Swedish welfare state to the brink of bankruptcy." Yet two years earlier, the country's finance minister declared counterintuitively that "more immigrants should be allowed into Sweden in order to safeguard the welfare system."

One Iranian immigrant to Sweden expressed astonishment at his new country's policies: "In Sweden my family encountered a political system that seemed very strange. The interpreter told us that Sweden is a country where the government will put a check into your mailbox each month if you don't work. She explained that there was no reason to get a job."

The statistics from Norway are even more shocking. According to a University of Oslo study, "non-Western immigrants" are ten times as likely to be on social assistance as native Norwegians.

In Germany, Muslims are four times as likely to be receiving welfare as non-Muslims. However, unlike his counterpart in Sweden, Berlin's former finance senator Thilo Sarrazin is speaking out against the benefits system and has penned a bestselling book condemning the nation's immigration policies. Sarrazin stated while in office that welfare recipients could feed themselves on four euros per day, adding that "losing weight is the least of their problems."

Research by Daniel Pipes and Lars Hedegaard from 2002 reveals that mostly Muslim immigrants in Denmark "constitute five percent of the population but consume upwards of 40 percent of the welfare spending." In that country, numerous "single" women who receive social assistance are really the wives of polygamous Muslim men.

Polygamy and benefits fraud go hand in hand across the continent. Last year in France, a polygamous Muslim and father of 17 children was charged with welfare fraud when authorities discovered that "two of his companions lived in Dubai for a year while continuing to receive welfare benefits worth 10,000 euros." The man did not exactly have a low profile, as he made news previously when one of his wives was fined for driving while wearing a niqab that restricted her vision.

In one instance, a former minister in the British government, which has been known to grant additional welfare benefits to cover a man's additional wives, openly promoted welfare use and abuse among her Muslim constituents. Last December, deputy Labour Party leader Harriet Harman labeled Muslim immigrants who send a portion of their welfare payments to families back home "heroic." She even "called for tax refunds to encourage more immigrants to follow suit."

However, ordinary Muslims are not the only ones exploiting generous Western welfare systems for personal gain. In 2005, the UK Telegraph reported that the governor of Pakistan's Sindh province had received British state benefits of around £1,000 a month for ten months, plus the rent for a northwest London house.

Even worse, many well-known Islamic radicals are on the dole. The irony of the situation is inescapable: their parasitical behavior obliges governments, through taxpayers, to subsidize their adopted country's own destruction.

For example, one of England's most notorious Muslim leaders, hate preacher and Islamic law proponent Anjem Choudary, has boasted about receiving £25,000 a year in benefits, explaining that the money "belongs to Allah." Membership in Choudary's Islam4UK group was criminalized after he threatened to lead 500 followers on a highly provocative "anti-war" march, "carrying empty coffins to mark Muslims 'mercilessly murdered' in Iraq and Afghanistan." Choudary even paid the £50 fine brought down against Emdadur Choudhury (no relation) for burning poppies while disrupting somber Remembrance Day services last year. It was revealed that Emdadur Choudhury, who has been dubbed "the designer label extremist" for his taste in Western clothes, lives in "a free council flat and [receives] almost £800 a month [in] state handouts."

Then there is Abdul Rahman Saleem, who once served prison time for inciting racial hatred during London riots against the Danish Muhammad cartoons. He now stands accused of "fiddling the benefits system by working while claiming jobseekers' allowance." A "friend"-turned-informant told the Daily Mail, "He likes to say 'Allah provides' — but in reality it is the state he seems to despise so much that makes the provisions for him. The Child Support Agency claims there is nothing they can do to make him pay for his children because he is in receipt of jobseekers' allowance."

Meanwhile, five Muslim men convicted of harassment for shouting insults during a 2009 homecoming parade for British soldiers nevertheless went unpunished, declaring that taxpayers would foot the bill for court costs because they were on welfare.

Moreover, it was revealed last year that the council house occupied by the wife and eight children of England's most infamous convicted hate preacher, the hook-handed Abu Hamza, received a £40,000 "makeover paid for by taxpayers." His children are British-born, the Daily Mail reported, "meaning they are entitled to support from the state, which would continue even if Hamza is extradited." This support has included close to £700 per week in rent, benefits, and allowances
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« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2011, 10:17:41 AM »

Islamists on Welfare: Paid to Plot the West's Demise
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Not even revelations that some actual terrorists collect welfare payments before and after they commit their crimes have prompted sweeping reforms of the benefits system.

Two weeks after the July 7, 2005, bombings in London, four explosions disrupted the city's public transportation system once more. (Fortunately, only one injury was reported.) British authorities subsequently discovered that the Muslim radicals involved in the attack had collected more than £165,000 in benefits, aided by multiple addresses and national insurance numbers. Two of them originally won asylum in Britain by using forged passports and false names.

Abu Qatada, sometimes referred to as "Osama bin Laden's ambassador in Europe," was found guilty of plotting to plant bombs during millennium celebrations in Jordan. After his release from prison in 2008, he was granted £150 a week in "incapacity benefits" for a bad back — despite later being photographed wearing a knapsack and carrying groceries on the anniversary of the July 7 London bombings. Along with publishing that photo, the Telegraph revealed that "Qatada's family is understood to be claiming around £47,000 a year in benefits — £500 a week in child benefits for the four of his five children under 18, £210 for income support, £150 for incapacity benefit, £45 in council tax benefit — along with a council home worth around £800,000."

Similar situations have occurred in Australia. When Abdul Nacer Benbrika stood trial on terrorism charges, it emerged that the illegal Algerian immigrant and father of seven, who had been ordered deported three times, "never worked a day" in 19 years and "has cost us millions" in welfare payments, "baby bonus" checks, and other benefits, in the words of one broadcaster.

Furthermore, Australian David Hicks brazenly declared his plan to go on the dole as soon as he was released from prison. An unrepentant would-be "martyr," Hicks trained with al-Qaeda in Afghanistan and claims to have met Osama bin Laden 20 times. His father told the Herald Sun in 2007, "He's an Australian citizen. He has a right to that sort of thing."

One of Norway's most notorious welfare recipients is also a convicted terrorist: Mullah Krekar, who has been linked to bombings in Madrid and Iraq.

Meanwhile, Canada's most famous welfare recipients — Muslim or otherwise — remain the Khadrs. Confessed war criminal Omar Khadr still resides in Guantanamo Bay, having pleaded guilty to killing a U.S. soldier in Afghanistan in 2002. However, his extended family members, all of whom share his radical views, continue to live on welfare in a Toronto suburb.

Despite the public outrage provoked by the Toronto Sun in 2008, little evidence suggests that the situation has improved in Canada. In early 2011, the Mounties charged Ahmad El-Akhal, a Quebec immigration consultant, with "providing Canadian citizenship documents to hundreds of people in the Middle East so they could collect benefits and tax refunds" to the tune of $500,000. Adding an original twist on the venerable scam, none of the individuals receiving benefits actually lived in Canada. According to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, the scheme had been going on since 1999.

This author contacted the officials originally quoted in that Toronto Sun report to ask what is being done about welfare abuse by Muslims. The office of Rob Ford, who is now Toronto mayor, never replied to inquiries. Just one individual, a spokesperson for the Ministry of Community and Social Services, responded — but only with a boilerplate email. Rebecca MacKenzie explained that the ministry is "not able to provide comment on specific cases due to privacy concerns," adding that they "take allegations of fraud very seriously."

Seriousness is long overdue. As an Islamist Watch blog post from 2009 put it, "Only one adjective properly describes a government that funds those who seek its destruction: suicidal."

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Imam's Call to Add Crescent Moon Symbol to Russian Emblem Met With Alarm
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Was it a call to bring the revolts and violence of the “Arab Spring” now sweeping the Middle East to Russia?

That is the question that swirled throughout Moscow when a top imam called for the addition of the Islamic crescent moon symbol to the Russian emblem.

The surprise call by Talgat Tadzhuddin during an interview with a leading Russian newspaper was met with alarm because the imam heads the Central Spiritual Association of Muslims of Russia, a major regional Islamic association.

As quickly as the word of the proposal became public it ignited a wave of condemnation.

“According to this logic,” Georgiy Vilinbakhov, head of Russia’s Heraldry Service argued, “we must change the name of Russia, put a green stripe on or flag and move the capital city from Moscow to somewhere on the border between Europe and Asia.”

The fears of renewed tension between the state and the Islamist were exacerbated because Moscow had just seen serious clashes between Islamic and Russian youths.

Moreover, Russia has been involved in a number of disputes along its southern tier that pit predominately Muslim populations seeking autonomy and Islamic governance against Russian troops.

In Chechnya, for example, Russia has fought two brutal wars and been the subject of major terror attacks by Islamic separatists from the region. The two most significant were the 2004 attack on a school in Beslan that left more than 300 dead and the 2002 siege at a Nord Ost theater by 50 Chechen soldiers that left at least 170 dead.

Both attacks left relations with Russia’s Islamic community in a fragile state.

In his interview, Tadzhuddin said, “We are asking for one of the heads (of the Russian state emblem, a double-headed eagle) to be topped with a crescent moon and the other to be topped with a Russian Orthodox cross. All the crowns on the coat of arms -- two on the heads of eagles and one above the middle -- are topped by crosses. But Russia has 20 million Muslims. That is 18 percent of the population.”

Tadzhuddin also said that he had presented a sketch of the proposed change to both Russian President Dmitry Medvedev and Prime Minister Vladimir Putin. The Kremlin has not commented on the issue.

In the days since the proposal was made public there have been no public protests or support for the changes anywhere in Russia. And other major Muslim groups inside Russia quickly rejected the proposed changes to the emblem, which was adopted in 1472 under the reign of Ivan III after his marriage to a Byzantine princess. It was replaced when communists took over in 1917 and reestablished in 1993 after the fall of the Soviet Union.

Muhammedgali Khuzin, head of the executive committee of the Russian Association of Islamic Consensus, a much larger Muslim organization, said the proposal would hurt cultural harmony, unleash xenophobia and be generally counterproductive.

He also intimated that any changes to the Russian emblem were bound to create conflict.

The Russian Orthodox Church also rejected the idea, but suggested that flags of predominately Muslim areas might choose to add the crescent to their regional flags.

Experts in the U.S. and in Russia agree that there is little likelihood that the proposal was meant to spread conflict.

Eric McGlinchey, an expert on Central Asia and professor at George Mason University, said that the fact that Tadzhuddin was able to meet with Putin and Medvedev made it unlikely that there was more to the proposal than “an effort to recognize cultural diversity in Russia.”

“The Central Spiritual Association of Muslims of Russia has a long history of being close to the state. It was closely affiliated with he old Soviet regime and, while not exactly a state organ, it has close ties to the government,” he said. “It is not a call for revolt.”

“I don’t think that Putin and Medvedev would meet with someone who was likely to call for Islamic turmoil in their borders,” he added.

Peter Byrne, a journalist who has worked extensively throughout Russia, said simply, “It is not an issue here.”

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« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2011, 04:55:07 PM »

Fascinating! - Thanks for sharing.

I'm tellin' ya, these folks are thicker'n knats at a campground.  It's getting really hard to breathe.
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« Reply #29 on: May 01, 2011, 07:17:58 AM »

I'm tellin' ya, these folks are thicker'n knats at a campground.  It's getting really hard to breathe.

Yep and a whole lot more annoying.
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