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« Reply #45 on: March 29, 2011, 08:33:47 AM »




There is a video included here.    It is fairly long and I have not fully reviewed all of it yet.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFBI1bzWzJ4
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« Reply #46 on: March 29, 2011, 10:17:38 AM »

It's eat, drink, and be merry for far too many,

And that is pretty much what the bible says will be happening in the Last Days.  I too marvel at how many "Christians" I talk to that really don't have a clue as to what is really going on!
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« Reply #47 on: March 29, 2011, 01:57:51 PM »

Hi Brother Tom! Its good go talk with you again. Hi grammyluv!

I agree - a gigantic percentage of Christians are not paying attention to anything going on in the word!! I guess they're 'blinded in part'?  Huh It is VERY hard to understand - and we pray for them all of the time, that their spritual eyes would be opened!!!!

Also, Hi David749! Nice to meet you!

In reference to what you said about the Rothschilds - I agree wholeheartedly with all you said. Also wanted to mention that I have an old "Prophecy in the News" magazine, in which the writer (JR Church, who just died March 22nd, and went home to be with Jesus), pubished a geneology of Bill Clinton from the 1980's - before they denied access to his records. According to his family tree Mr. Bill Clinton is a ROTHSCHILD!!!

I'll look for the magazine and quote some of the article for you when I find it!
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« Reply #48 on: March 29, 2011, 03:12:22 PM »

It's amazing how well huge and unmanageable debt plays into the New World Order. You can guess that the power brokers and puppet-masters in the background love it when terms like "Global Markets" and "One World Banking" are kicked around. The Rothschilds have been among the power and money brokers for hundreds of years and will definitely have a role in "End Times Events". They have set themselves up to be the winner - regardless of what happens in the world.

The following is an article sent to me some time ago because they thought it related to Bible Prophecy. I have no idea where it came from, but it might also be interesting to you:
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« Reply #49 on: March 29, 2011, 03:15:03 PM »

ROTHSCHILDS AND AMERICA


It would be extraordinarily naive to even consider the possibility that a family as ambitious, as cunning and as monopolistically minded as the Rothschilds could resist the temptation of becoming heavily involved on the American front.

Following their conquest of Europe early in the 1800s, the Rothschilds cast their covetous eyes on the most precious gem of them all -- the United States.

America was unique in modern history. It was only the second nation in history that had ever been formed with the Bible as its law book. Its uniquely magnificent Constitution was specifically designed to limit the power of government and to keep its citizens free and prosperous. Its citizens were basically industrious immigrants who 'yearned to breath free' and who asked nothing more than to be given the opportunity to live and work in such a wonderfully stimulating environment.

The results -- the 'fruit' -- of such a unique experiment were so indescribably brilliant that America became a legend around the globe. Many millions across the far flung continents of the world viewed America the Beautiful as the promised land.

The Big Bankers in Europe -- the Rothschilds and their cohorts -- viewed the wonderful results borne by this unique experiment from an entirely different perspective; they looked upon it as a major threat to their future plans. The establishment Times of London stated: "If that mischievous financial policy which had its origin in the North American Republic [i.e. honest Constitutionally authorized no debt money] should become indurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without a debt [to the international bankers]. It will become prosperous beyond precedent in the history of the civilized governments of the world. The brains and wealth of all countries will go to North America. That government must be destroyed or it will destroy every monarchy on the globe."

The Rothschilds and their friends sent in their financial termites to destroy America because it was becoming "prosperous beyond precedent."

The first documentable evidence of Rothschild involvement in the financial affairs of the United States came in the late 1820s and early 1830s when the family, through their agent Nicholas Biddle, fought to defeat Andrew Jackson's move to curtail the international bankers. The Rothschilds lost the first round when in 1832, President Jackson vetoed the move to renew the charter of the 'Bank of the United States' (a central bank controlled by the international bankers). In 1836 the bank went out of business.

PLAN OF DESTRUCTION

In the years following Independence, a close business relationship had developed between the cotton growing aristocracy in the South and the cotton manufacturers in England. The European bankers decided that this business connection was America's Achilles Heel, the door through which the young American Republic could be successfully attacked and overcome.

The Illustrated University History, 1878, p. 504, tells us that the southern states swarmed with British agents. These conspired with local politicians to work against the best interests of the United States. Their carefully sown and nurtured propaganda developed into open rebellion and resulted in the secession of South Carolina on December 29, 1860. Within weeks another six states joined the conspiracy against the Union, and broke away to form the Confederate States of America, with Jefferson Davis as President.

The plotters raided armies, seized forts, arsenals, mints and other Union property. Even members of President Buchanan's Cabinet conspired to destroy the Union by damaging the public credit and working to bankrupt the nation. Buchanan claimed to deplore secession but took no steps to check it, even when a U.S. ship was fired upon by South Carolina shore batteries.

Shortly thereafter Abraham Lincoln became President, being inaugurated on March 4, 1861. Lincoln immediately ordered a blockade on Southern ports, to cut off supplies that were pouring in from Europe. The 'official' date for the start of the Civil War is given as April 12, 1861, when Fort Sumter in South Carolina was bombarded by the Confederates, but it obviously began at a much earlier date.

In December, 1861, large numbers of European Troops (British, French and Spanish) poured into Mexico in defiance of the Monroe Doctrine. This, together with widespread European aid to the Confederacy strongly indicated that the Crown was preparing to enter the war. The outlook for the North, and the future of the Union, was bleak indeed.

In this hour of extreme crisis, Lincoln appealed to the Crown's perennial enemy, Russia, for assistance. When the envelope containing Lincoln's urgent appeal was given to Czar Alexander II, he weighed it unopened in his hand and stated: "Before we open this paper or know its contents, we grant any request it may contain."

Unannounced, a Russian fleet under Admiral Liviski, steamed into New York harbor on September 24, 1863, and anchored there, The Russian Pacific fleet, under Admiral Popov, arrived in San Francisco on October 12. Of this Russian act, Gideon Wells said: "They arrived at the high tide of the Confederacy and the low tide of the North, causing England and France to hesitate long enough to turn the tide for the North" (Empire of "The City," p. 90).

History reveals that the Rothschilds were heavily involved in financing both sides in the Civil War. Lincoln put a damper on their activities when, in 1862 and 1863, he refused to pay the exorbitant rates of interest demanded by the Rothschilds and issued constitutionally-authorized, interest free United States notes. For this and other acts of patriotism Lincoln was shot down in cold-blood by John Wilkes Booth on April 14, 1865, just five days after Lee surrendered to Grant at Appomattox Court House, Virginia.

Booth's granddaughter, Izola Forrester, states in This One Mad Act that Lincoln's assassin had been in close contact with mysterious Europeans prior to the slaying, and had made at least one trip to Europe. Following the killing, Booth was whisked away to safety by members of the Knights of the Golden Circle. According to the author, Booth lived for many years following his disappearance.

INTERNATIONAL BANKERS PURSUE THEIR GOAL

Undaunted by their initial failures to destroy the United States, the international bankers pursued their objective with relentless zeal. Between the end of the Civil War and 1914, their main agents in the United States were Kuhn, Loeb and Co. and the J. P. Morgan Co.

A brief history of Kuhn, Loeb and Co. appeared in Newsweek magazine on February 1, 1936: "Abraham Kuhn and Solomon Loeb were general merchandise merchants in Lafayette, Indiana, in 1850. As usual in newly settled regions, most transactions were on credit. They soon found out that they were bankers... In 1867, they established Kuhn, Loeb and Co., bankers, in New York City, and took in a young German immigrant, Jacob Schiff, as partner. Young Schiff had important financial connections in Europe. After ten years, Jacob Schiff was head of Kuhn, Loeb and Co., Kuhn having returned. Under Schiff's guidance, the house brought European capital into contact with American industry."

Schiff's "important financial connections in Europe" were the Rothschilds and their German representatives, the M. M. Warburg Company of Hamburg and Amsterdam. Within twenty years the Rothschilds, through their Warburg-Schiff connection, had provided the capital that enabled John D. Rockefeller to greatly expand his Standard Oil empire. They also financed the activities of Edward Harriman (Railroads) and Andrew Carnegie (Steel).

At the turn of the 20th century the Rothschilds, not satisfied with the progress being made by their American operntions, sent one of their top experts, Paul Moritz Warburg, over to New York to take direct charge of their assault upon the only true champion of individual liberty and prosperity -- the United States.
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« Reply #50 on: March 29, 2011, 03:15:47 PM »

ROTHSCHILDS AND AMERICA


At a hearing of the House Committee on Banking and Currency in 1913, Warburg revealed that he was "a member of the banking firm of Kuhn, Loeb and Co. I came to this country in 1902, having been born and educated in the banking business in Hamburg, Germany, and studied banking in London and Paris, and have gone all around the world...."

In the late 1800s, people didn't study banking in London and "all around the world" unless they had a special mission to perform!

Early in 1907, Jacob Schiff, the Rothschild-owned boss of Kuhn, Loeb and Co., in a speech to the New York Chamber of Commerce, warned that "unless we have a Central Bank with adequate control of credit resources, this country is going to undergo the most severe and far reaching money panic in its history."

Shortly thereafter, the United States plunged into a monetary crisis that had all the earmarks of a skilly planned Rothschild 'job.' The ensuing panic financially mined tens of thousands of innocent people across the country -- and made billions for the banking elite. The purpose for the 'crisis' was twofold:

(1) To make a financial 'killing' for the Insiders, and (2) To impress on the American people the 'great need' for a central bank.

Paul Warburg told the Banking and Currency Committee: "In the Panic of 1907, the first suggestion I made was, 'let us have a national clearing house' [Central Bank]. The Aldrich Plan [for a Central Bank] contains many things that are simply fundamental rules of banking. Your aim must be the same...."

Digging deep into their bag of deceitful practices, the international bankers pulled off their greatest coup to date -- the creation of the privately owned Federal Reserve System, which placed control of the finances of the United States securely in the hands of the power-crazed money monopolists. Paul Warburg became the 'Fed's' first chairman!

Congressman Charles Lindbergh put his finger firmly on the truth when he stated, just after the 'Federal' Reserve Act was passed by a depleted Congress on December 23, 1913: "The Act establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President [Wilson] signs this Bill, the invisible government of the monetaary power will be legalized....The greatest crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency bill."

PLAN TO CONQUER THE WORLD

Having consolidated their financial grip on most of the European nations by the middle of the last century, the international bankers worked feverishly to extend their sphere of influence to the ends of the earth in preparation for their final assault on the United States -- a nation which, through its unique Constitution, remained free.

In the decades that followed it became apparent that, in order to achieve their goal of world domination, they would have to instigate a series of world wars which would result in leveling of the old world in preparation for the construction of the New World Order. This plan was outlined in graphic detail by Albert Pike, the Sovereign Grand Commander of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry and the top Illuminist in America. In a letter to Guisseppe Mazzini dated August 15, 1871. Pike stated that the first world war was to be fomented in order to destroy Czarist Russia -- and to place that vast land under the direct control of Illuminati agents. Russia was then to be used as a 'bogey man' to further the aims of the Illuminati worldwide.

World War II was to be fomented through manipulation of the differences that existed between the German Nationalists and the Political Zionists. This was to result in an expansion of Russian influence and the establishment of a state of Israel in Palestine.

The Third World War was planned to result form the differences stirred up by Illuminati agents between the Zionists and the Arabs. The conflict was planned to spread worldwide. The Illuminati, said the letter, planned to "unleash the Nihilists and Atheists" and "provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass [direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view, a manifestation which will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."

At the time Pike wrote this remarkable leaflet there were five different ideologies extant on the world scene and involved in a "struggle for space and power." These were:

1. The secret ideology of the international bankers or the Illuminati as laid out in Fourth Reich Of The Rich. Their aim was the creation of a One World Government to be ruled over by the "Illuminated ones" at the top.

2. The Russian "Pan-Slavic" ideology which was originally conceived by William the Great and expounded in his will. According to A.H. Granger, the author of England World Empire, 1916, p. 173, this ideology called for the elimination of Austria and Germany, then the conquest of India and Persia and ends with the words: "...which will ensure the subjugation of Europe."

3. The ideology of "Asia for the Asiatics" as expounded by the Japanese. This called for a confederation of Asian nations dominated by Japan.

4. The ideology of Pan-Germanism which called for German political control over the European continent, freedom from the Crown's restrictions on the high seas and the adoption of an "open door" policy in trade and commerce with the rest of the world.

5. Pan-American or the ideology of "America for the Americans." This called for "trade and friendship with all, alliances with none." Secretary of State Root stated in 1906 that, under this ideology which was given expression in the Monroe Doctrine of 1823, we are "debarred from sharing in the political aims, interests, or responsibilities of Europe, just as by the equally potential doctrine, now nearly a century old, the European powers are excluded from sharing or interfering in the political concerns of the sovereign states of the Western Hemisphere."

If the plans of the international banker/Illuminati cabal were to be brought to fruition, Russia, Germany, Japan and the United States would have to be brought to their knees in unconditional surrender, poverty and ignominy.

The Illuminati plan for world conquest, referred to by Albert Pike, was a diabolical masterpiece of Luciferian ingenuity that would take the lives of hundreds of millions of human beings and cost hundred of billions of dollars in its accomplishment.

The plan that the Illuminati devised to accomplish their world conquering goal is as simple as it is effective. Along the way towards the accomplishment of their final objective this plan has been adapted by the international bankers and their comrades in arms around the globe to amass vast fortunes in real estate. As we shall see. the implementation of the plan has been so smoothly executed that it has frequently won applause from the ranks of those it is destroying. Their plan can be called Urban Renewal.

It has been said that there are three types of people:

1. Those who make things happen. 2. Those who watch things happen, and 3. Those who wonder what happened.

The vast majority of mankind find themselves in the last two categories. Most have "eyes to see" but don't "see" what is happening. Most have "ears that hear" but don't "understand" what IS happening -- LOCALLY, NATIONALLY OR INTERNATIONALLY.
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« Reply #51 on: March 30, 2011, 04:13:00 PM »

WOW! Thank you Brother Tom!!!

That is an excellent article!!! We've read a number of articles and seen a couple of documentaries before, and what you wrote has added to what my husband and I have already learned!!!

It is so amazing to see how nations with millions of peopel have been so manipulated. Death, destruction - all for the sake of the 'Elite banking families'. I know they're all in hell with their gods right now, with more of them to follow. And I know they realize it wasn't worth it AT ALL! To be separated from the REAL MASTER of the UNIVERSE must be a terrible thing. But they have so much blood on their hands and pride in their hearts  Shocked!! It is all so supernatural and demonic!!!

Thank you so much for that clear, concise article that tells it like it is!!!!!
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« Reply #52 on: March 30, 2011, 09:45:20 PM »

Thanks so much Grammyluv, Barbara, and Tom for the input and excellent contributions. 

The Banking families, descendants of the moneychangers who were doing business in God's temple, I feel are the 4th Beast empire talked about in Scripture.  The are of One Mind and have been quietly gobbling up the world since the time of the French Revolution.   The empire is different than all the rest in that it thus far has been ruling the world in secret........invisible to the masses.

One day.......when the man of evil comes........I feel that they will form an allegiance with him to become visible oligarchs of the world.  They will give their power and authority to the beast. 


Daniel 7: 23----25

Rev.  17:  12-17


May God lead us, protect us, take care of us and comfort us in the days ahead........and all of those that are in our household. 
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« Reply #53 on: April 03, 2011, 12:51:29 PM »




http://www.prisonplanet.com/bob-chapman-the-road-of-inflation-will-only-end-in-tears.html
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« Reply #54 on: April 04, 2011, 06:43:38 AM »



Here is an updated monthly silver chart vs. the U.S. dollar which shows the weakness in our fiat currency:


http://futuresource.quote.com/quotes/chart.action?symbol=SI&compareTo=&topsyms=SI&month=&year=2011&chartAggregation=M&chartStyle=BAR&chartSize=650x450&chartDensity=MEDIUM&userStudies=&x=23&y=7
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« Reply #55 on: April 04, 2011, 07:24:54 AM »




http://money.msn.com/currency/austerity-not-when-we-have-bailouts-fleckenstein.aspx
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« Reply #56 on: April 04, 2011, 07:57:12 AM »




http://futuresource.quote.com/quotes/chart.action?symbol=GC&compareTo=&topsyms=GC&month=&year=2011&chartAggregation=M&chartStyle=BAR&chartSize=650x450&chartDensity=MEDIUM&userStudies=&x=30&y=8
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« Reply #57 on: April 05, 2011, 06:12:50 PM »



FYI          Congress and the president have until this Friday to reach a budget agreement. 
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« Reply #58 on: April 05, 2011, 08:34:00 PM »



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tLntPQxfF0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL_M5FNtb3U&feature=related
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« Reply #59 on: April 06, 2011, 12:11:10 AM »


FYI          Congress and the president have until this Friday to reach a budget agreement. 

I don't think that they're going to make it. Further, I hope and expect the Republicans to STAND by their PROMISES. In other words, it's time for the showdown. They have to slow spending, and NOW is the time - NO more business as usual.
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