The Pre-Wrath Rapture of the Church

[Soldier4Christ]

The Hebrew language is quite complex actually. A number of Hebrew words can be translated into the same English words and yet they have different meanings. It can also work the same way in the exact opposite.  The Hebrew word for “stand still” can be damam which means, “to wait, to be still, depicting the state of being motionless. The Hebrew word yatsab can also be translated to stand still but which is used to mean stand fast as a Soldier presenting himself to his Master. The JPS, Tanakh, and the KJV w/Strong's use the word ‛âmad where it was translated to stand up and standeth. This word is used in Hebrew in the aspect of standing up (to arise) against something as in the opposite of the English phrase 'stand down.'

This shows us that it will be at the time of trouble that Michael will be there to protect the Jews. This is not a restrainer being removed. Keep in mind that there is a difference between the church and those of Israel at this time.

[david749]

Thanks for the input.  The Hebrew language is indeed complex. 

In my opinion, Israel will not have an easy time during the second half of Daniel's 70th week.  God will reconcile Himself with Israel upon completion of all 70 weeks......when Christ returns.  God will however preserve a remnant during the difficult times of the 70th week to defend His Word and promise to Abraham as found in Gen 22.     See also Ezek Chps 34 thru 39.    There is nothing really good or special about the people of Israel.......but God will preserve a remnant to defend His Word and Holy Name.   Satan will not be allowed to destroy all of Israel.  (Rev 12: 13-17).........as he has tried to do on many occasions. 

Upon reading The Book of Zephaniah, Jerusalem is included in the Day of the Lord wrath from God (Chp 1).  This does not include the 144,000 that God has sealed from harm.  God will preserve a remnant of Israel (Chp 3: 8-13).......a group which is described as meek, humble and who trust in the Lord. 

[david749]

The faith, obedience, and actions of a single person must never be underestimated........and this is something that should be seriously considered in our daily walk with the Lord.  Though we are but grains of sand......vapor......we as individuals are very precious in God's sight. 

It was because of the faith/obedience of a single man, namely Abraham, that a whole group of people will have a part in the future that God has planned.......both the physical and spiritual descendants of Abraham (Gen 22 and Romans Chps 9---11).

It was also because God was pleased with a single man, namely Noah, that we are even here today.


"Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.  And the Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart.  So the Lord said, 'I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them.

"But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord."         (Gen 6: 5-7)


Having thus preserved a remnant of His creation..........God would therefore have to humble Himself, put on flesh, to go to the cross for His creation.


Praise God for this great gift of love........for His kindness, mercy, and grace.


"Therefore humble yourselves under the mighty hand of God, that He may exalt you in due time, casting all your care upon Him, for He cares for you."
   

[nChrist]

Thanks for the input.  The Hebrew language is indeed complex. 

In my opinion, Israel will not have an easy time during the second half of Daniel's 70th week.  God will reconcile Himself with Israel upon completion of all 70 weeks......when Christ returns.  God will however preserve a remnant during the difficult times of the 70th week to defend His Word and promise to Abraham as found in Gen 22.     See also Ezek Chps 34 thru 39.    There is nothing really good or special about the people of Israel.......but God will preserve a remnant to defend His Word and Holy Name.   Satan will not be allowed to destroy all of Israel.  (Rev 12: 13-17).........as he has tried to do on many occasions. 

Upon reading The Book of Zephaniah, Jerusalem is included in the Day of the Lord wrath from God (Chp 1).  This does not include the 144,000 that God has sealed from harm.  God will preserve a remnant of Israel (Chp 3: 8-13).......a group which is described as meek, humble and who trust in the Lord. 

The entire Tribulation Period will be a horrible time for the whole world. The last half will definitely be hardest for Israel, and that's one of the reasons why it is called "The Time of Jacob's Trouble".

Matthew 24:15-22 KJV  When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)  16  Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:  17  Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:  18  Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.  19  And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!  20  But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:  21  For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.  22  And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

Jeremiah 30:7-9 KJV  Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.  8  For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him:  9  But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.


Israel will cry out to God fearing total annihilation, and God will answer with the Second Coming of Christ. This world will be in such a horrible mess that only Christ will be able to restore peace. By this time, 2/3 of Israel and 3/4 of the world population have died. Jesus Christ will subject all things beneath His Feet and He will rule and reign over the earth from the Throne of David in Jerusalem. Israel will accept her Messiah this time, and Jesus Christ will take what is His. Israel will be restored and Jesus Christ Himself will be her anointed King.

Isaiah 2:1-5  The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem.  2  And it shall come to pass in the latter days, that the mountain of Jehovah's house shall be established on the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.  3  And many peoples shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of Jehovah from Jerusalem.  4  And he will judge between the nations, and will decide concerning many peoples; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning-hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.  5  O house of Jacob, come ye, and let us walk in the light of Jehovah.

Isaiah 9:2-7  The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwelt in the land of the shadow of death, upon them hath the light shined.  3  Thou hast multiplied the nation, thou hast increased their joy: they joy before thee according to the joy in harvest, as men rejoice when they divide the spoil.  4  For the yoke of his burden, and the staff of his shoulder, the rod of his oppressor, thou hast broken as in the day of Midian.  5  For all the armor of the armed man in the tumult, and the garments rolled in blood, shall be for burning, for fuel of fire.  6  For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.  7  Of the increase of his government and of peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to establish it, and to uphold it with justice and with righteousness from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of Jehovah of hosts will perform this.

Micah 4:1-3  But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the LORD shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.  2  And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.  3  And he shall judge among many people, and rebuke strong nations afar off; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

[david749]

Thanks   nChrist   for the post and have a nice week.   

[nChrist]

Thanks   nChrist   for the post and have a nice week.   

Thanks Brother - you have a great week also. I've reviewed many portions of Scripture on this topic and have enjoyed it. I anxiously await His Glorious Appearance.

KEEP LOOKING UP!

Love In Christ,
Tom

[david749]

The abomination of desolation:


1.  "standing in the holy place....."     (Mt 24:15)

2.  "standing where it ought not...."    (Mark 13: 14)

3.  "and place there the abomination of desolation...."   (Daniel 11: 31)

4.  "And from the times that the daily sacrifice is taken away, and the abomination of desolation is SET UP......."  (Daniel 12: 11)


So we see that it is:         Placed there.......Set up.........Seen standing.


"Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb and spoke like a dragon.  And he exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence, and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.  He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men. 

"And he deceives those who dwell on the earth by those signs which he was granted to do in the sight of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an IMAGE TO THE BEAST WHO WAS WOUNDED BY THE SWORD AND LIVED. 

"He was granted power to GIVE BREATH TO THE IMAGE OF THE BEAST, THAT THE IMAGE OF THE BEAST SHOULD BOTH SPEAK AND CAUSE AS MANY AS WOULD NOT WORSHIP THE IMAGE OF THE BEAST TO BE KILLED.

"And he causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or name of the beast, or the number of his name." 

So it appears that the Abomination is a statue made in the likeness of the anti-christ.......that is given breath......so that it might speak.......and also be able to kill people who do not worship him.   It is placed, set up, and seen standing in the Holy Place.   

[david749]

The following text also suggests that there will be no NEW BELIEVERS coming to Christ after the man of evil comes on the scene.........at the middle of Daniel's 70th week.  God will send a strong delusion upon the world.  This will probably be somewhat similar to how He hardened Pharaoh's heart. 


"And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming.  The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.


"And for this reason, GOD WILL SEND THEM STRONG DELUSION, THAT THEY SHOULD BELIEVE THE LIE,


"that they ALL may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness."


2 Thess 2: 8-11

[david749]

When the man of evil comes, he will in my opinion make an allegiance with the ten reigning banking families of the world.  These ten are of one mind.......and they will give their power and authority to the beast.......in exchange for visible rulership of the world with the anti-christ.   The anti-christ will remove three of them.

The following are perhaps the ten:   Rothchilds (London), Rothchilds (Berlin), Lazard Brothers (Paris), Israel Seiff (Italy), Kuhn-Loeb (Germany), Warburgs (Amsterdam), Warburgs (Hamburg).........and the three American offspring:  Lehman Brothers (New York), Goldman Sachs (New York), and Rockfeller/JP Morgan Chase (New York).

Two sections of Scripture pertinent to this are:      Rev. 17: 8-17 and Daniel 7: 23-25


Rev 17 has some interesting features as some of the verses are written for the benefit of John......in his time perspective..........while other verses are written for the benefit of end-time readers......from their time perspective.

For example, verse 10 is written in the present tense when John received the vision.......approx 90's AD:   

"There are also seven kings.  Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet come.  And when he comes, he must continue a short time." 

In my opinion, the seven are leaders of countries who have persecuted Israel......and even attempted to extinguish them.  This in my view is a deluded effort by Satan to interfere with the promise that God made to Abraham for his act of faith/obedience.  (Gen 22). 

So when John wrote Rev 17.......five kings had fallen before his time.  The one that is......is the Roman emperor in power during his time.  The one that is to come for a short time in the future from John's time.....and continue a short time......in my opinion.....was Hitler. 


Verse 11 then changes time perspective for the benefit of end-time readers.  "And the beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition." 

So from our timeframe.......one of the past seven leaders who persecuted Israel will come back to life.  He will be the 8th.........and is one of the seven. 


He will be released from the bottomless pit to come back to this world.  Those who are not in the Book of Life will marvel at the one who has come back to life.  (verse


The only one of the past seven who the world would recognize would be the most recent of the seven......namely Adolph Hitler.  Hitler was able to brainwash nearly all the people in his country.  I have included a link to one of his past speeches.  He begins his speech in a normal fashion but within a few minutes it appears that a demon takes over.  This is probably why he was able to hypnotize so many people so easily.  He mentions in his speech his 1000 year Reich...........a false and evil substitute for Christ's millennial kingdom.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGhdX1SI3KY

[david749]

In the end times, we see that Satan and his angels will be thrown out of heaven.

Rev 12: 7-9:     "And war broke out in heaven;  Michael and his angels fought against the dragon;  and the dragon and his angels fought, but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer.

(As an additional item......note that Michael is the leader of the good angels)


"So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world;  he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him." 


Jesus also made the following statement in Luke 10:18:    "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven."


Would would this sound like.......Jesus making this statement in Hebrew?


"Satan Barack O Bama"   

http://donnettebower.multiply.com/journal/item/1218



As such.....we need to keep an eye on him.  As many of you probably know......there is much question about the legitimacy of his birth records.  And we know from various passages in Scripture that angels can inhabit human bodies.......or appear as humans. 


So Satan might be temporarily inhabiting the body of our current president.......wild as that might seem. 


As I mentioned earlier, I felt that Hitler would be paying us a return visit.......and that he would be the man of evil that requires others to take the mark......at the midpoint of Daniel's 70th week and for awhile thereafter. 


So I am looking for our president perhaps to be assassinated at some time in the future.......or meet his death in some other manner.........and then rise again 3 days later in a Satanic imitation of Christ's resurrection.  He will rise again as Adolph Hitler.......and many in the world will be in awe.......and follow after him.  Satan will move from Obama's body to Hitlers. 


I know that this is pretty wild and that no one reading this will believe it possible.......but at least try to store it in the back of your mind somewhere.  The return of Hitler.....as well as the rest of the chaos going on in the world......could lead Israel to begin again their daily sacrifice of animals.....as a desperate cry to God. 


As an additional item..... 150,000 high level Nazis were smuggled out of Europe near the end of WW2 with much wealth.  Over the years, they infiltrated into high level positions within the United States.......in science, business, politics, etc.    You can read more about this in the book:  "The Rise of the Fourth Reich" by Jim Marrs.............and can also find some interviews with him on YouTube.  This is why our country at this time resembles Nazi Germany in the 1930's..........with the USA progressively moving closer and closer toward Fascism.     President Kennedy wanted to abolish the Federal Reserve, get us out of Vietnam, and put us on a Silver Standard for the currency.   He was killed shortly thereafter.     


The date of the terrible oil spill in the Gulf......the day that it all began......was Hitler's birthday.  We still do not know what the full effects of this will be.........the tremendous amount of oil that went into the ocean as well as the poison Corexit that was sprayed on it.  From what I have heard......the gulf stream has been affected......which could lead to much colder weather in Europe.  The Jet Stream also appears to have altered its usual course.  This and other factors could have an effect on crop production in the future.   


Study the sky sometimes as well.           http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kcTvqiMNl8           

[david749]

Syria and Damascus are included in some end time prophecy.......although I currently have not recently reviewed the Scriptures.  However, the book of Ezekiel would probably be one place to look. 

Here is a recent article about some activity over there and I will be studying more about them in the future.  Obama seems to be loosening things up with them.........although Syria has been a long time enemy of Israel.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/news.aspx/139686


There is an interesting father-son combination who has been in power there since 1970.  The father Hafez al-Assad ruled Syria from 1970 until his death in 2000.  Then his son Bashar al-Asad took over. 

The Father was minister of defense in 1967 and the air force took quite a beating from Israel during the six day war.

The Father comes from an obscure rural location and the original family name was "Wahish."  This translates to "Wild Beast."   He had the family name changed to Asad.....which translated to lion.....when he was in his 20's.  This can be found at http://www.answers.com/topic/hafez-al-assad. 


The son has been ruling since 2000.    Interestingly his birthday is Sept 11........or 911. 

[nChrist]

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing with us.

Love In Christ,
Tom

[david749]

Masonic symbols on our dollar bill:       http://www.theinsider.org/reports/dollar-bill-symbols/


911 and our currency:                        http://www.diamond-jim.com/911folds/


Israel Supreme Court Building:             http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=1229
                                                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjFDQJranVk
                                                           http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPjv-qfyBlA
                                                           http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFAEZwM2Ezc&NR=1


Rothschilds:                                         http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/slavery.htm

[nChrist]

Thanks for the interesting links. I had time to briefly visit several of them and plan to go back when I have more time. I found the Supreme Court building in Israel to be especially interesting. Who knows what else is already built in Israel?

[david749]

No man knows the day or the hour of the Lord's return.

However, when discussing the beginning of Daniel's 70th week.......some men will know.   Certainly the ones in Israel making the deal with the man of evil will know. 

For this who adhere to the Pre-Trib position.....the beginning of Daniel's 70th week is not really considered too much as the Pre-Trib position holds that the rapture will occur prior to this time.  At least, to my knowledge, that is their viewpoint.

For those who do not hold to the Pre-Trib position......the beginning of Daniel's 70th week is something that is considered a bit more. 

There have been many attempts at peace and treaties over the years......but we really need to store them in the back of their mind as possible beginning points.  The peace agreement between the evil one and Israel might not necessarily be too well publicized. 

If you have some peace activity.......the dates should be remembered.  They should not be viewed as definite at first.......but can be confirmed if certain events occur within the next several years after word.

As the 5th Seal is associated with the mid-point of Daniel's 70th week..........what we would be watching for is the 3rd Seal........and a bit later the 4th Seal. 

The First two seals are a bit vague.  As I mentioned in an earlier post........the Seven Seals do not necessarily have to be squished into Daniel's 70th week.  The Seven Seals were given by Christ to the Church.  The 70 weeks prophecy was given by God to Daniel in answer to a prayer regarding his people Israel. 

While the two will certainly have some overlapping events during the final seven years..........the first Seal might have actually been broken many years ago.  There is no requirement that the First Seal be broken at the exact time of the beginning of Daniel's 70th week. 

The First two seals are a bit general in nature and there is no way to definitely spot them.  However, the 3rd Seal is very specific and has not yet happened on a worldwide basis........namely a day's wages for a loaf of bread.  This will be followed by the 4th Seal whereby one fourth of the population of the earth perishes. 


So what one would do with a possible starting point for Daniel's 70th week?

1.  Pay attention to peace treaties and/or high level meetings between major world powers/leaders and the leadership of Israel.  Then store these dates. 

2.  Then see if this is followed up over the next few years by an explosion in food prices. 

3.  If the explosion in food prices takes place worldwide......you would then look for widespread death. 

4.  Because of the very difficult things taking place worldwide, one would then look for Israel to initiate the old system of daily sacrifice (burnt offerings) as described in Lev Chp 6. 

5.  Then 3.5 years following your starting date.........the man of evil will stop the daily sacrifice and set up the abomination of desolation at the holy place.


FYI:    The most recent peace activity that I am aware of took place in Sept of 2010.  Around Sept 1st, Obama had Netenyahou and Abbas of Palestine visit him at the white house.  He spoke with each one privately.  He also had the King of Jordan there as well as the Mubarak of Egypt. 

Round two of these talks occurred several weeks later on in Egypt and Jerusalem (mid Sept). 

Then a very unusual thing happened.   A U.N. meeting was called for to discuss Mideast Peace.  You can find this at Google......"Obama press Mideast peace in U.N. address (Sept 23, 2010).  What struck me as unusual was that this meeting was schedule at the beginning of a major Jewish holiday.........so Netenyahou could not even attend.  The Israeli seat at the U.N. was empty.  This struck me as a bit insulting to Israel. 

Two major Jewish holidays occurred during the later part of Sept 2010.

Sept 18:   Yom Kippur-----the 25 hour period of fasting and intensive prayer;  on of the most important holidays for Israel;  the Day of Atonement;  yearly atonement and repentance.  This lasted until Sept 19th.

Sept 23:   Sukkot-----The Feast of the Lord;  the time when celebration occurs following the harvest;  7 days in duration;  also known as the feast of booths.....a remembrance to times when Israel lived in tents following their departure from Egypt.

Many significant things have taken place in the past on Jewish holidays........but I will not go into that at this point in time. 

The Rothschilds.....if you research them.....were involved in starting the Illuminati as well as spreading Masonic Lodges around Europe.  They financed and built the Israeli Supreme Court building which is full of Masonic symbols/design as well as occult symbols. 

The Illuminati creed is:  Order out of Chaos.       They create chaos.......and then bring in order

It is part of their obligation to put out warnings to the public prior to their actions.......even if they are quiet warnings impossible for most to see.

As the Rothschild and their descendant banking families control much of the wealth of the world........they also control much of the media and what comes out of such places as Hollywood.  It is my opinion that they sometimes insert warning into their movies and other productions. 

The movie "Knowing" might be one of these productions.  It is inspired by evil as you can see at the end that the world at the end is destroyed...but that two little children are delivered to a new beautiful world.  This is a mimicry of Adam and Eve in the garden.  You also see what struck me as the tree of life......at the very end. 

Evil angels might very well present themselves to those in power as from outer space........and advising them about what to do about this world.......to save it.  In the movie they are presented as aliens who want to save a remnant of humans from the disaster to hit earth. 

The movie at the beginning could have been shot at any Elementary School.  But notice that they chose "The William Dawes Elementary School."   This only shows twice in the movie......for a split second......but you can pick up the name if you are looking for it.  William Dawes was one of several men and women who alerted the colonial minutemen of the approaching British troops prior to the battles of Concord and Lexington at the beginning of the American Revolution. 

So.......here we have a warning......the British coming......namely the Rothschilds, etc.  They are their offspring have engineered the current global economic mess that we are facing.

You will notice include very briefly in the movie is the Gulf Oil fires.......shown on a TV report. 

What caught my attention recently was the date of the disaster in the movie for the world.....namely 10-19-09.  This was related to much earlier work that I had done.......and paying attention to Sept. 2010 as a possible starting point of Daniel's 70th week. 

If you reverse the date given of the disaster in the movie........you come up with 9-19-10. 

Sept 18th and into 19th of 2010 was Yom Kippur........and in very close proximity to all the peace activity taking place at that time. 


So.........I am storing Sept 19th, 2010 in the back of mind........and will be closely examining world events over the next few years.