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« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2004, 02:32:01 PM »

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« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2004, 08:21:48 PM »

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« Reply #32 on: February 10, 2004, 10:22:53 PM »

I hope so, Kris
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« Reply #33 on: February 12, 2004, 10:35:07 AM »

Broken,

Any person who believes it's ok to murder little boys and girls in the womb are not born again. For anyone who would kill/ or even suggest/ that it's ok to do so, does not know the Author of Life.

I take it that you are from England or Austrailia? Allow me to give you a run down on how things work here in America.

1) Abortion is legal in our country until the moment of birth. A woman can actually be in labor, and have her baby aborted. As long as it's body does not pop out totally, it can have it's brains sucked out,  body parts harvested, and body discarded to a dumpster or a lab. In Wichita Kansas, there is a clinic who has an incinerator, that cremates the baby. I have personally seen the smoke stack ( reminds one of Nazi Germany)

2) Women in our country are sold abortions, like one would buy cosmetics. It's a high pressure business operation. Their business is not to offer a women a "choice", but an abortion. Abortions range from several hundered dollars to thousands. Our family housed a woman in 1990 who was going to have an abortion at 7 months. When she got to the clinic they told her the abortion would be $2400.00. Although, the clinic accepted cash or credit cards, they would not accept her mother's Discover Card (praise the Lord!). To make a long story short, this precious young women who came to know the Lord, now has a 13 year old son, who has been the joy of her life. If she had gone through with the abortion, her life would have taken another turn. She would be living with the guilt of murdering her child.

3) Many abortionists in our country have serious psychiatric disorders(demons), and/or criminal behaviors. Recently in Arizona, there was an abortionist who was convicted and sentenced to 30+ years for molesting his patients. Some are child molestors, others are addicted to pornography and drugs. One should not be suprized, that making a living by killing ,would make one go mad. (Is this the type of "Dr" you would want to go visit?)

4) Abortion clinics are the largest unregulated business in America. A veternarian clinic has more restrictions.

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Has the word "abstinance" ever come to mind? It's 100% effective against pregnancy and STD's.Sex outside of the marriage covenant is prohibited by God, and it's for our own good. Millions of babies would be saved yearly, if this "non government program" was implemented.

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If you have bought the lie and had an abortion, there is hope and forgiveness in Jesus Christ. But you must go to Him and ask for forgiveness and healing. Be honest before the Lord God, and call abortion what He calls it; murder.If you do that, He will cast your sins into the sea, and you will be given a clean slate. Your name will be written down in the Lambs Book of Life.

"Have mercy upon me, O God, according to Your loving kindness; according to the multitude of Your tender mercies. Blot out my transgressions. Wash me thoroughly from my iniquity, and cleanse me from my sin. For I acknowledge my transgressions, and my sin is always before me. Against You , You only have I sinned, and done this evil in Your sight.....

Psalm 51:1-4 (please read remainder of chapter)

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« Reply #34 on: February 12, 2004, 01:30:57 PM »

Christians can make bad decisions at times. If everyone were excluded from salvation each time they thought or did something wrong...I sure wouldn't be in heaven.  Cry

Please don't judge Broken. I'm not saying I agree with all her views. Pray for her and encourage her. She's going through a rough time right now.
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« Reply #35 on: February 12, 2004, 01:58:59 PM »

Willowbirch,

It would be a great disservice to not tell Broken the truth.It is the TRUTH that sets someone free. It is when someone confessess AND forsakes their sins that true deliverance takes place.

God's Word is what judges a man. When the Word says...."thou shalt not do so and so" and another Christian repeats what God says, that is not judging. Friend, that is trying to save someone from the fires of hell.

Option #1 Let's all be nice to Broken, and let her continue to believe a lie that's it's ok to kill babies. We don't want to offend her, after all what's 45 million dead babies anyway?( that's how many have died in America since 1973)

Option #2 Tell Broken the truth that abortion is murder, and urge her to repent of her sins, and follow Jesus Christ.

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« Reply #36 on: February 12, 2004, 05:18:46 PM »

I believe abortion is murder.
When I was 20 I was raped...also, I was w/ my husband (well, he wasn't at that point) after that.  To this day I have no clue who my child's dad is.
I know we say we NEVER know until we are faced w/ that decision.  I have to say, I wanted that child since I KNEW it was forming inside of me.  I had EVERYBODY telling me to get an abortion...except for my dad and aunt.  I had a full scholarship to an AWESOME college...was going into the medical field...but I gave that up(private college) to have my child and have NEVER regretted it.
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« Reply #38 on: February 12, 2004, 05:51:37 PM »

Dovewings,

What a wonderful testimony of God's providence in your life.

I know the rape question comes up with people for an excuse to take a child's life. My question to them is this,"should a child die for the sins of the father?"

Also an abortion does not "unrape" the mother. If she has an abortion she is actually being raped a second time.

Dovewings, giving birth to your child was the right thing to do!

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« Reply #39 on: February 12, 2004, 06:18:42 PM »

TY Smiley  A lot of ppl asked me why I just didn't "get rid of it" b/c it would be a painful reminder...but I was like, this would not have happened unless God had an ultimate plan for this childs life.  
I would NEVER change a thing!!!

Every person is planned..so NO person(unborn child included) is a mistake...IMO

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« Reply #40 on: February 12, 2004, 06:39:07 PM »

Broken, what a horrible thing to say Sad. It is NOT their choice by any means. They have no right to take an INNOCENT life! To have a right to murder Gods creation?
When someone stands before the Lord thy God, is that what they will say? "It was my choice God to kill hi/her...so you have no say God...".....Um, just personally-I dont think so! Sad
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« Reply #41 on: February 12, 2004, 07:03:51 PM »

I thought I'd share this too....

A cousin of mine had an amnio done...well, it came back that the said child was going to be completely deformed.  The docs all advised her to get an abortion.  Well, she didn't and the child was/is PERFECTLY NORMAL!!!  Not all tests are 100%.  God has a plan and a purpose for EVERYTHING and EVERYONE of us...born and unborn...so it is let HIS will be done.  There is a purpose and a lesson learned from EVERYONE...be it newborn or old.

As for ppl going out to get abortions and running the risk of dying from them...they KNOW the risk.  

I know it's between them and God, but I certainly wouldn't want to be in their shoes ...

I've been to schools, volunteered w/ children/adults w/ disabilities...and they always have something to give and teach you.  

OK...I'll stop here....
God bless!!!
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« Reply #42 on: February 13, 2004, 08:00:01 AM »

Here is a good verse for those who would justify killing a disabled baby.

"So the Lord said to him (Moses), "Who has made man's mouth? Or who makes the mute, the deaf, the seeing, or the blind? Have not I, the Lord?"  Exodus 4:11

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« Reply #43 on: February 13, 2004, 10:41:38 AM »

Here is a good verse for those who would justify killing a disabled baby.

"So the Lord said to him (Moses), "Who has made man's mouth? Or who makes the mute, the deaf, the seeing, or the blind? Have not I, the Lord?"  Exodus 4:11

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« Reply #44 on: February 14, 2004, 08:38:12 AM »

How any of you have the cruelty to make an innocent suffer the way I saw that girl suffer is beyond me.
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