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dan p
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« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2010, 09:05:58 PM »

All this stuffing about differeces between a "kingdom saint" and a "grace saint" is just that, false teaching stuffing.  When Paul was told to be baptized in Acts 22:16 was he responding as a kingdom or grace saint?  No wonder the atheists laugh!!!

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 Hi duval and let me tell you why Atheists laugh as you say .

 In 1 Cor 2:14 , But the  NATURAL man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God , for they are  FOOLISHNESS  unto him ,   NEITHER   can he know them , because they they are  SPIRITUALLY  DISCERNED .

  Now let see what 2 Peter 3:15-16 saiys to those who are not Pauline .

 In verse 15 , Peter calls Paul beloved also accordingto the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you and I believe that it is the book of Hebrews .

 Then in verse 16 Peter says that the things that Paul writes are  HARD TO UNDERSTAND  .

  Which they that are  Unlearned !

  Which are Unstable !!

 Twist or  Wrest the scripture unto their own  Destruction .

 If you understood the  IMPLICATION  , of  when he Paul was a Kingdom saint and when he then changed to a Grace saint  and your answer shows that you do not understand what I have written .

 We all have the right to be wrong , the best to you , dan p

 
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« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2010, 11:19:37 AM »

Hello Dan

Peter said "some" of Pauls writings are "hard" to be understood, NOT ALL!  Its uninspired man going around preaching about "kingdom saints" and "grace saints" etc; etc, terms never used in God's holy word that causes division and atheists to laugh.

I say the "unlearned". "unstable", who "twist" or "wrest" s cripture to their own "destruction" are those who preach such things as "kingdom saints" as opposed to "grace saints", etccccccc.  Further, can you please tell me when and where Paul changed from a "kingdom" to a "grace" saint? 
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« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2010, 01:58:33 PM »

Hello Dan

Peter said "some" of Pauls writings are "hard" to be understood, NOT ALL!  Its uninspired man going around preaching about "kingdom saints" and "grace saints" etc; etc, terms never used in God's holy word that causes division and atheists to laugh.

I say the "unlearned". "unstable", who "twist" or "wrest" s cripture to their own "destruction" are those who preach such things as "kingdom saints" as opposed to "grace saints", etccccccc.  Further, can you please tell me when and where Paul changed from a "kingdom" to a "grace" saint? 

 Hi duval , and even some good dispensationalist  will not answer , nor can answer that question , because it  NEVER happened , that's why !!

 In Rev 5:8 the ones saved and died in the Tribulation through the preaching of the Gospel of the Kingdom  ( MATT 24:13-14   )  are called Saints !!

 In  1 Cor 1:2  we are  Called/Chosen/Elected  to be saints by the Preaching of the Gospel of the Grace of God Huh

 dan p
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« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2010, 04:32:31 PM »

Hi Dan

If I understand you correctly I agree with the bulk of your last post.  The gospel was preached to every creature under heaven during Paul's lifetime.  There were saints before Jesus death.

Have a good day----duval
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« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2010, 07:20:09 PM »

Hi Dan

If I understand you correctly I agree with the bulk of your last post.  The gospel was preached to every creature under heaven during Paul's lifetime.  There were saints before Jesus death.

Have a good day----duval
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  Hi duval , good for you , dan p
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